Stop crying about height...woman deal with it too!

[missed_theboat]

I never understood why a lot of other tall guys go in for child-size women.

 

HA! I'm not child-sized, nor do I resemble a child in any way. I'm short, but there's no doubt that I'm a woman in any way, shape, or form.

 

I wonder why guys like women to shave their vulvas to resemble children, though. That's a more interesting question.

[kaylan]

Then they shouldn't be requiring the men they date to be 4-6 inches taller than them...

Its not a requirement, its just how attraction works. Its works the same way for me. Or did you not read what I originally typed up in the OP.

 

 

As a 5'6 guy, the only thing I care about is if the girl towers above me or not. A girl 5'10+ is simply too tall for me.

Same way girls dont want a guy who dwarfs her. Or the same way I dont want a woman whos not thin enough to make me feel as masculine as I want.

Can you back that up?

You need more tall female friends and acquaintances. They will tell you that while they do get attention, even guys who are 6'2 chase after the 5'5 girl more than the 5'10 girl. Just read the forums on dating sites like plentyoffish or okcupid. Guys like to feel as masculine as women like to feel feminine is regards to height.

I really don't think that tall girls have it any harder than the normal ones do. So she can't date a short guy, big-whup.

Talk to some and get back to me. While some on the lower end of the tall range do ok, once girls get into the 5'10 and up range, I have heard plenty of them say some guys gloss them over to run after their friends. Its doesnt mean the girls never get attention.

 

Same way it doesnt mean shorter guys get not attention. Hot is hot. But preferences exist.

 

 

And stay away from real girls who have any sort of physical standards.

 

It kind of sucks, that no girl prefers what I am, in the way that a tall guy can benefit if a woman prefers tall guys. All I can hope is that the woman doesn't consider shortness a dealbreaker.

dude, while some women see it as an issue, if you were hot, had a good body and face, and were suave to boot...ud def have girls trying to talk to you.

 

Screw primal instincts, I'd just be glad to meet women who don't feel the need to STARE at me like they've never seen a giant before.

Instincts exist in animals. Humans are animals, deal with it.

 

It's not a requirement, just a preference.

This.

 

And it's not only short guys who wouldn't date tall girls. Many average guys wouldn't date tall girls, so tall girls are left with taller-than-average guys.

This as well. I hear my buddies say "shes too tall" all the time about some girls.

 

If a guy is hot (or even cute), most women will find him attractive, even if he's short. Women include the face in their hotness; it's not all about the body.

This. Is Cypress on fire with good points or what?

 

 

So I should feel bad for tall girls because they still favor men who are taller, and in their case can't find many. That's pathetically stupid. Someone's choice is their own fault and they should receive no sympathy of any kind. Next time think before typing.

Did you read my post accurately? NOT ALL tall women rule out guys their height or a little shorter. Also some guys rule them out for being tall.

So no, not being able to date short guys, does not mean that a tall girls has it hard.

Its hard in the sense that MOST men are average height. Look at a bell curve. And the fact that shes as tall or taller than alot of average height men can be a turn off for some of them.

 

Hence making it harder to date depending on just how tall she is. All I have to do is look at online dating profile to see that tall girls get messaged less.

 

I think it really depends on how good looking the guy is. If he's really handsome, then it's possible to compensate for a lack of height. But an average looking short dude, good luck.

Work out, get nice threads(clothes), project confidence, and your options will increase.

 

Once I got my body from looking like skinny lame Lil Wayne, to looking like a black version of Cristiano Ronaldo, you wouldnt believe the increase in attention from women. Not to mention when I had chin length dreads. I just recently cut them down to a couple inches long and immediately noticed the lesser attention I got from women.

 

In my experience women like long hair and a nice body. Get on that brah.

[Elysian Powder]

HA! I'm not child-sized, nor do I resemble a child in any way. I'm short, but there's no doubt that I'm a woman in any way, shape, or form.

 

I wonder why guys like women to shave their vulvas to resemble children, though. That's a more interesting question.

 

 

 

I don't like bush on my tongue, and sex feels a lot better w/ bush.

[Wolf18]

HA! I'm not child-sized, nor do I resemble a child in any way. I'm short, but there's no doubt that I'm a woman in any way, shape, or form.

 

I wonder why guys like women to shave their vulvas to resemble children, though. That's a more interesting question.

 

The reason for that is porn.

 

 

I actually like a woman with hair on her vagina (as long as she's not Greek or Turkish ), but every girl I've seen shaves it except 1 older female (who was apologetic about it, what a stupid society).

[kaylan]

I can relate to that. I'm seeing an Indian guy who's pretty dark. I'm Asian and have light skin. I like the skin contrast.

Fun isnt it =)

It's so true... at 5'8 I often feel too big to be feminine.

 

My friend who is 6'2 (and really pretty... she looks just like Kirsten Dunst) has had almost no interest whatsoever from the opposite sex.

awww thats lame. Well if I knew her and shes as pretty as you say she is, Id so kick game. And id def make her feel like a lady too =)

 

Funny...I see tall girls as being a prize to men. I'm short, myself, and feel extremely inferior. Girls who are between 5'5" and 5'10" seem, to me, to be the ones men want. Even a male friend of mine said to me that having a taller girl (and in his eyes, "healthier" girl) means status and prestige to the guy who's dating her. Short girls are like these insignificant little munchkins. Seriously, this is how I feel.

 

I'm dating a guy who's a lot taller than me. Almost a whole foot. But...I've dated a variety of heights. As short as 5'6" and as tall as 5'11".

They are a prize up until a point. Like I said. When I dated the 5'11 girl I loved the conquest feeling I got. She was very pretty and I felt very masculine attaining such a woman.

 

Okay, I want to say a little more.

 

I'm a female who's 5' tall but most of my female friends are these healthy girls who are between 5'6" and 5'8", and HONESTLY, they are just loved by men. I feel like for every one guy who is interested in me, there are about eight who are interested in them.

 

I'm happy to be dating a guy who's 5'10" right now, and I'm amazed that he even likes me. But I get little attention from men. My taller female friends are taken so much more seriously.

 

One of my friends who's 5'8" even told me that one day one of her male friends said to her, "What's it like being friends with her? [he meant me]." And he immediately followed up with, "She's really...small."

 

WTF?

 

It hurts!

 

Well, not so much. But it's bothersome at times.

 

Honestly, I think 5'5" to 5'8" women are the luckiest.

Well 5'8 is the low range of tall for a woman. 5'7 is only a little above average so I wouldnt call that tall at all.

 

But for me, once a girl gets to about 5'1, then I really start noticing how short she is. Im 5'9 myself and never really felt my 5'2 ex was that short but shed always point it out.

 

My ideal range is 5'2 to 5'7...how that doesnt mean I am never attracted to girls outside of this range. Hell sometimes I see super short gals and get frisky ideas on how to dominate them. And the reverse for taller women, because I do love when a girl can be in control as well.

[jobaba]

To sum that all up...Dont let someone else change how you feel about yourself. Nowadays I dont give a crap if a girl isnt into me because Im not her type. I turn down girls myself all the time. Highlight your attributes and always tell yourself your awesome and that plenty of other girls would love to date you. Do whatever you need to do to be able to look in the mirror and tell yourself you look hot. For me it was just saying "F$%k off" to societal standards of whats attractive, going to the gym, getting the tattoos I always wanted, getting new clothes, and getting some sweet dreads.

 

Viola. Accept who you are and make the improvements you can.

 

Yea, that's what you're not understanding. Some guys (myself included) haven't really turned down any girls or had too much success with women. If I had been pretty successful with girls, then I probably wouldn't care much about my height.

 

Believe me, I've thought the problem to be everything from height, to looks, to race, to game, to dress, too masculine, too feminine. You name it. I've tried it all. I fix what I can about myself to maximize. And then tweak some more, and more...

 

Now, I'm finding out that the things that I've tried to improve on over the years (getting muscular/fit, wearing nice clothes) a lot of women don't even care for and even find a turnoff!

 

It's just rough for some guys. That's all...

[missed_theboat]

The reason for that is porn.

 

 

I actually like a woman with hair on her vagina (as long as she's not Greek or Turkish ), but every girl I've seen shaves it except 1 older female (who was apologetic about it, what a stupid society).

 

Yeah, so does my guy. He was pleased that I had hair. I thought he may be the type to expect me to be shaven, but he wasn't at all. He said he's only encountered a couple women who were shaven (which I thought was fascinating since he's had sex with quite a few women). He said it creeped him out because of its childlike, bare appearance. He always talks about how sexy it is to see that clear marker of womanhood, that is so seductive and feminine. Body hair also provides a great place for the scents that are so distinctly "us". Yeah, I know some women who shave it for themselves (or so they say) and have no problem with it, but I'm keeping it trimmed and neat.

 

Sorry for the digression!

[Jane2011]

I used to shave "completely" years ago. But I started to find it creepy, myself, so I stopped. Nowadays I just keep it trimmed and neat.

 

Oops, sorry. Mine was a digression too. Forgot that this thread is about height.

[Cypress25]

I'm short, myself, and feel extremely inferior. Girls who are between 5'5" and 5'10" seem, to me, to be the ones men want. Even a male friend of mine said to me that having a taller girl (and in his eyes, "healthier" girl) means status and prestige to the guy who's dating her. Short girls are like these insignificant little munchkins. Seriously, this is how I feel.

 

I know how you feel. I've always been short and rather insecure about it, since people love to comment on my height. (The short jokes never get old, it seems.) The main reason it bothers me is because everyone thinks I'm a lot younger than I really am. With heels and makeup, I manage to look my age, but without, I can easily pass for 14. And 14-year-olds don't get any respect.

 

Not to mention, it's a right pain in the ass trying to find pants that fit! Even "petite" jeans are too long for me and need to be hemmed.

 

Honestly, I think 5'5" to 5'8" women are the luckiest.

 

Yep, because they're average height. Well, 5'8" is a bit tall for a woman, but they can still work it. I'm definitely envious of people whose height is perfectly normal. I know a lot of my insecurities are in my head, but it's annoying that I have to work extra hard just to look like an adult.

 

Almost all women prefer guys 6' and up, and actively lament it if a guy whose perfect in every other way is...their height.

 

Oh please. Almost all women? Not even close. I think most women prefer men who are average height (for Caucasian men, that's about 5'10"). Perhaps some women prefer super-tall men, but they're not the majority. I've never known an average height guy who had trouble attracting women.

 

I have never in my entire life met a woman who actually prefers males who are under 5'10, it's more like something they're willing to "tolerate" if you're amazing in other fields.

 

Hi, my name is Cypress25 and I prefer men who are under 5'10". Nice to meet you. OK, I know we've never actually met, but I'm a real person. I admit that it's because I'm short myself and I'd rather not date someone who towers over me, but I'm most attracted to men in the 5'7" to 5'9" range. I also do online dating, and I get disappointed when a guy's profile says he's 6' or taller. Not that it's an absolute deal-breaker, but it does make me lose enthusiasm for him. I know a lot of petite women who feel the same way.

 

I never understood why a lot of other tall guys go in for child-size women.

 

Hey now! Just because I'm in the 50th percentile for height for 12-13 year old girls doesn't mean...oh, forget it. My car's airbag would decapitate me if it deployed.

[Andy_K]

I'm 5'11", and I like girls who are around the 5'2"-5'7" range. Below 5'2" and it can be more awkward kissing, or kissing during sex, and much above 5'7" I just don't feel a whole lot taller than them. And they'll be more difficult to throw around in the bedroom.

[Frogwife]

I think women and men who have height (and other specific) requirements are really missing out on some great options!! When I was in the U.S., I had this arbitrary 6' minimum in men (I'm 5'5"-ish). My ex of 12 years was 6'6" so I guess I got used to taller men. When I tried online dating I would actually put a height minimum of 6 foot. (dumb!).

 

In France, I swear that 75% of the men are nose to nose with me - at the moment I am completely lusting over someone who is probably my height at the most...he's very sexy and charismatic and how tall he is doesn't even factor into being attracted to him or not.

[ChessPieceFace]

Viola. Accept who you are and make the improvements you can.

 

I have to play the viola? Dangit. What about other stringed instruments? And do I have to be first chair?

[EnigmaticClarity]

plus taller girls usually have bigger boobs compared to shorter girls

 

After a TON of exacting attention to the detail you're referring to, I'm convinced there is no correlation between height and boob size. Same goes for guys and wanker size--I don't have as much data to go on since boobs are far more visible through clothes, but the lockerroom evidence I've seen doesn't suggest a correlation.

 

For a long time I assumed the opposite of what you're saying, that the taller a girl was, the smaller her boobs are--I've seen a ton of tall volleyball and basketball players with small boobs, plus lots of tall actresses and singers with small boobs. I've since seen enough buxom Amazons in real life to not believe there's any correlation at all.

[EnigmaticClarity]

The difference is that men are 50-50 on the issue, while most women unanimously like tall males.

 

TALL men are 50-50, but men of all heights are far more unanimous in looking for women close to their own height or shorter. The OP's point that tall women have it as hard as short men do is completely valid.

[irc333]

Tall women (5'8 and up) can have it tough in the dating realm too

 

Well....probably because they refuse to date men shorter than they are LOL

 

There was this 6 foot woman I emailed on a dating site, she didn't have anything in her profile "prefera man my height or taller" is which I usually see stated ina profile by TALLER women.

 

But she didn't have that statement, so I figured I"d try to contact her...she replied "Sorry, but I have a problem with the height problem, good luck in your search"

 

I figured as much when I emailed her initially, but I figured I'd try anyhow. I'm 5'8"

 

(Funny, 5'8" women wont' date 5'8" men sometimes either)

So here's a woman that's a typical tall MAN'S height, I think I saw a woman that's 6'3" once on a dating site, very attractive.....she'll HAVE to date at least a guy that's 3 inches shorter, right? lol

 

Some might have to be lenient with the height thing.

[EnigmaticClarity]

Well....probably because they refuse to date men shorter than they are LOL

 

There was this 6 foot woman I emailed on a dating site, she didn't have anything in her profile "prefera man my height or taller" is which I usually see stated ina profile by TALLER women.

 

But she didn't have that statement, so I figured I"d try to contact her...she replied "Sorry, but I have a problem with the height problem, good luck in your search"

 

I figured as much when I emailed her initially, but I figured I'd try anyhow. I'm 5'8"

 

(Funny, 5'8" women wont' date 5'8" men sometimes either)

So here's a woman that's a typical tall MAN'S height, I think I saw a woman that's 6'3" once on a dating site, very attractive.....she'll HAVE to date at least a guy that's 3 inches shorter, right? lol

 

Some might have to be lenient with the height thing.

 

If a tall woman is attractive, she'll hold out for a man her own height or taller. If she isn't, she's more likely to settle. This preference pattern is really no different with an attractive man holding out for a woman he's taller than, and it's no different than a very attractive short man holding out for whatever it is he wants in a woman.

 

The OP's point mostly applies to the average tall woman with average looks--even when they're willing to settle, men aren't usually willing to go for someone taller than they are.

[somedude81]

Honestly, even if taller women do have an issue with dating, it's nowhere near as bad as shorter men have it.

 

Nobody prefers a short guy. Even 5'1 Cypress25, thinks I'm too short for her.

 

Sure, maybe tall girls have it harder than average height chicks, but it's not like they can't find a boyfriend, and have been involuntarily single for years at a time.

[EnigmaticClarity]

Nobody prefers a short guy. Even 5'1 Cypress25, thinks I'm too short for her.

 

Sure, maybe tall girls have it harder than average height chicks, but it's not like they can't find a boyfriend, and have been involuntarily single for years at a time.

 

Your first sentence isn't in line with the expressed reality of short women I see on online dating sites. Your pessimism and self-doubt are causing you to gloss over huge swaths of women who are actually open to shorter men--although I know nothing I say will make you believe it.

 

But who knows, maybe you actually will listen. Go onto an online dating site where women can specify height preference--Match.com does it, it's the only one I'm sure lets you do it--for your area and do a search for women 5' 0" to 5' 2". Don't just pick the women you like, click EVERY result, and record how many will go out with a guy who is 5' 6"--I guarantee you the number will be much greater than you're saying here it is. And on top of whatever number you were to see, realize that half of the ones who claim to want men over 5' 6" actually WILL go out with you anyway if you were personable, confident, and attractive enough.

 

However, very few of the ones who would accept a guy who is 5' 6" would be likely go out with you anyway if you come across in person like you do on these boards. Women are universally attracted to confidence, and certainly around here, you don't communicate that. That doesn't mean I'm saying height isn't a problem for you, but it isn't the insurmountable obstacle you make it out to be.

 

I really don't know which group has more of a challenge--short guys or tall girls--but I'm pretty sure YOU don't know, either, and are allowing self-pity to delude you into thinking you've got it worse. It's possible that you do, but I'm seen no evidence of it. I do know that tall girls with the kind of self-pity you're displaying stay single for long periods of time, too.

Edited December 8, 2011 by EnigmaticClarity

[somedude81]

But who knows, maybe you actually will listen. Go onto an online dating site where women can specify height preference--Match.com does it, it's the only one I'm sure lets you do it--for your area and do a search for women 5' 0" to 5' 2". Don't just pick the women you like, click EVERY result, and record how many will go out with a guy who is 5' 6"--I guarantee you the number will be much greater than you're saying here it is. And on top of whatever number you were to see, realize that half of the ones who claim to want men over 5' 6" actually WILL go out with you anyway if you were personable, confident, and attractive enough.

Why would I even want to limit myself to women who are 5'2 and under? They are such a small percentage of the population.

 

Do you have any idea how messed up it is, to see a girl who is pretty, but she's exactly my height and know deep down that she would never give me a chance simply because I'm not taller than her?

 

I really don't know which group has more of a challenge--short guys or tall girls--but I'm pretty sure YOU don't know, either, and are allowing self-pity to delude you into thinking you've got it worse. It's possible that you do, but I'm seen no evidence of it. I do know that tall girls with the kind of self-pity you're displaying stay single for long periods of time, too.

I am almost 100% certain that short guys have it much harder than tall women.

 

And no, I don't show this attitude when I'm around people.

 

I ask out girls I like and get rejected, by all of them.

[EnigmaticClarity]

I am almost 100% certain that short guys have it much harder than tall women.

 

You could be right...but how are you 100% certain? If you can't explain it, how can you be sure it isn't self-pity?

[EnigmaticClarity]

Do you have any idea how messed up it is, to see a girl who is pretty, but she's exactly my height and know deep down that she would never give me a chance simply because I'm not taller than her?

 

What's your opinion of Neil Strauss? He's also 5' 6".

[ThaWholigan]

As I have said before (probably in this thread, no less), I know many men who are short and have no shortage (pun intended) of women chasing them, my brother included. He's 5 foot 6, he has had plenty of girlfriends and FWBs, and he's only 20 .

 

And likewise, I also know a lot of tall girls who are in relationships too, so it is not really the height that is the issue really.

[EnigmaticClarity]

And likewise, I also know a lot of tall girls who are in relationships too, so it is not really the height that is the issue really.

 

Height is definitely an issue that limits your options--but it doesn't eliminate them entirely. To keep cursing fate as an adult is just asanine, though--to dwell on things you can't control is completely morbid and unproductive. Learn to live with it and move on--short guys can find a woman, and tall girls can find a man. Go do it, and stop whining when there's no solution to your problem--focus on the workarounds (personality and confidence) and move on with your life.

[Cypress25]

Even 5'1 Cypress25, thinks I'm too short for her.

 

Excuse me? I said in a previous post that I would happily date a 5'6" guy because he'd be 5 inches taller than me, which is perfect. I know I also said I prefer guys in the 5'7" to 5'9" range, but those are flexible guidelines. I meant I prefer guys somewhere around that range. One of my exes was 5'10" and my last ex said he was just under 5'7". I dated them anyway because I liked them and I was attracted to them. I also have a crush on a bartender friend of mine, and he's 5'5" (sadly, he has a girlfriend). Trust me, there are plenty of women who would date someone your height.

 

Why would I even want to limit myself to women who are 5'2 and under? They are such a small percentage of the population.

 

You don't have to limit yourself to them, but you might have better luck with them. Have you ever tried hitting on a short girl? Or do you not notice them because you're so fixated on the taller girls who won't go out with you?

 

Do you have any idea how messed up it is, to see a girl who is pretty, but she's exactly my height and know deep down that she would never give me a chance simply because I'm not taller than her?

 

How do you know? She might give you a chance. And even if she does turn you down, you don't know the reason. You assume it's because of your height, but you really have no idea.

[EnigmaticClarity]

You don't have to limit yourself to them, but you might have better luck with them. Have you ever tried hitting on a short girl? Or do you not notice them because you're so fixated on the taller girls who won't go out with you?

 

He's said in another thread he prefers women right around his own height. If this is your actual preference, which height gives you more women to choose from--5' 6", or 6'? Even if you assume 60% of women between 5' 4" and 5' 7" would turn him down, he's still left with FAR more options than a guy who is 6' who prefers women in the 5' 10" to 6' 1" range. I have the same preference he does, equal height--but he's overlooked the fact that his options are actually wider at his current height than if he were taller, which begs the question of what his actual motivation for greater height is.