dasein Posted December 7, 2011 Posted December 7, 2011 There was just an article about how in film women are still under represented Where? on Jezebel? Women are very well represented in all media, film, television, magazines, music etc. If you want to make this another "gender" thread, back it up.
ShannonMI Posted December 7, 2011 Posted December 7, 2011 :lmao: God you are so funny Shannon. Count me in as someone that likes a hairy chest on a man Hahahahahaha thanks:) Yeah love a bushy chest. On the back, shoulders and around the dick, not so much:sick:
Elysian Powder Posted December 8, 2011 Posted December 8, 2011 (edited) Let that sh*t grow. Some girls like to rub their boobies on a furry chest;) I'm sure you've come across a few girls like that with your constant philandering, have you not? And girls don't like getting pricked by chest hair stubble. Let it grow baby:love: BTW James Dean is gorgeous. I've always thought so. I actually had a poster of him in my room when I was a teenager. He was way ahead of his time with his good looks and swag. :love: Nah. Most of the women 18-25 want a guy to only have hair on top of his head. Actually, I haven't seen guys with facial hair, older men, in a long time, and in the Gym, the only guy I see with body hair is 65 years . And girls don't like getting pricked by chest hair stubble. I do the laser stuff, chest hair stubble is rare . I spend more time in the beauty salon than my mom And I love nipple-loving; women don't like to bite on hair, LoL. Edited December 8, 2011 by Elysian Powder
ShannonMI Posted December 8, 2011 Posted December 8, 2011 Nah. Most of the women 18-25 want a guy to only have hair on top of his head. Actually, I haven't seen guys with facial hair, older men, in a long time, and in the Gym, the only guy I see with body hair is 65 years . I do the laser stuff, chest hair stubble is rare . I spend more time in the beauty salon than my mom And I love nipple-loving; women don't like to bite on hair, LoL. Yeah us older chicks like the chest hair. I love it. The last guy I dated asked me about manscaping. I told him I didn't like a big, hairy dick bush. I didn't say a word about chest hair because I love it. Well would you believe that mother f*cker shaved EVERYTHING!! I was so mad because he has luscious chest hair. He did end up growing it back, but I was pissed. I believe you spend a lot in the salon. You seem like the type. Nothing wrong with being well groomed.
kaylan Posted December 8, 2011 Posted December 8, 2011 (edited) Im black, and rather dark skinned. The saying is that "black dont crack" Basically our pigmentation makes it so we age better because the sun affects us less. Asians and Native Americans (who are originally asian anyways) age very good as well. The women is Asia are smart to use those tiny umbrella to block the sun. White Americans are dumb with tanning as all it does is ruin a girls skin and a lot of them end up looking 30 at 25. Just look at the cast of Jersey Shore. However, Pauly D is freaking 31 and looks my age. His genetics are awesome. Im 25 and can pass for 20 with clean shave. I started college at 20 going on 21 and just finished before my 25th birthday this year. Being a few years older than my class I sometimes felt like a geezer. But it always felt nice when people would act shocked at my age, even thinking I was a freshman at 23 years old lol. Edited December 8, 2011 by kaylan
El Brujo Posted December 8, 2011 Posted December 8, 2011 ....is that you'll always have younger people mistaking you for THEIR age. LOL Part of the reason is because fewer people are smoking. Back in the 70s and 80s, I remember that a lot more people smoked, and you could tell because it made them look old.
Disenchantedly Yours Posted December 8, 2011 Posted December 8, 2011 Where? on Jezebel? Women are very well represented in all media, film, television, magazines, music etc. If you want to make this another "gender" thread, back it up. The next several Hollywood movies you watch, pay attention to who is usually the lead, what the content is, who the female actress in the movie with the male lead is and her age vs his. Here is the article: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/11/22/women-film-study-annenberg_n_1107899.html I love how anything that talks about unfair treatment of women turns into it having to be from an extreme feminist website.
xxoo Posted December 8, 2011 Posted December 8, 2011 Part of the reason is because fewer people are smoking. Back in the 70s and 80s, I remember that a lot more people smoked, and you could tell because it made them look old. That's a big part. Also, people are dressing younger into later ages. My great-grandmother dressed and wore her hair exactly the same from the age 45 through her 80s. Her face was unlined, but she had a bun and a housecoat for 40 years! lol! My mother wore "mom" jeans at my age. I wear skinny jeans and boots She chopped her hair to an "appropriate" length. My hair is long and loose. We are similar weights, and her face always looked young, but her photos at my age look a lot older due to styles. Today's 30-60 year old women dress stylishly, wear make up, and color their hair. It makes a big difference.
orion1010 Posted December 8, 2011 Posted December 8, 2011 Part of the reason is because fewer people are smoking. Back in the 70s and 80s, I remember that a lot more people smoked, and you could tell because it made them look old. True, smoking does play a good part in it but not always. like I said in my other post, my grandma looks amazing. no lines at ALL and she has smoked forever AND was an alcoholic for 20 years. She sober the last 10 years but damn.. she is amazingly young in the face. I hope I can maintain my youth like them. So far I have. Our only difference is I life weights and workout and they never have. So my body is not gaining the weight that they have. My mother is aging just like my grandma and she smokes. Genetics are a huge part of it. But, I'm a huge supporter of wearing SPF on the face everyday (even in winter when I'm not spending so much time outside). I put spf 15 on my face daily which is in my neutrogena spf moisturizer which is also a wrinkle preventer. It's over the counter. $15 and totally worth it. I have been using this product since my very early 20's. aging in a healthy way is natural and beautiful. Just have to take care of yourself and be graceful about it. Carry yourself well. Keep your head up.
dasein Posted December 8, 2011 Posted December 8, 2011 I love how anything that talks about unfair treatment of women turns into it having to be from an extreme feminist website. Huffington Post has about as much bias credibility as Rush Limbaugh, but OK. The next several Hollywood movies you watch, pay attention to who is usually the lead, what the content is, who the female actress in the movie with the male lead is and her age vs his. As usual femculture focuses on meaningless raw numbers as opposed to proper context. 1. How many of those top 100 films are War Movies or military themed? How many women fight in wars? Should we gender correct Normandy? I can imagine a gender correct version of "Saving Private Ryan" where half the soldiers getting blown to bits in the opening, cut in half by German machine guns, were women. Box office gold? I think not. "Inglorious Basterd...ettes?" "The Patriot...ess?" Sorry, no thanks. This one category by itself may account for the difference between male and female speaking roles in that crappy study. When historical accuracy isn't an issue in war movies, scifi, "Starship Troopers" for example, women get lots of key roles as combat soldiers. 2. How many of those top 100 films are Westerns? All those unsung female cowboys and gunfighters from history going unnoticed somehow? swept under the rug? They have tried female oriented Westerns (Sharon Stone, "Quick and the Dead"). They bomb in the box office because they just aren't credible or historically accurate. 3. Adventure movies? historical themes? How many women are lining up to do death defying adventurous things that tend to get made into movies? Some are I'm sure, not nearly as many as men though. Go climb Everest ladies, nothing stopping you. 4. Prison movies? 94% of the prison population is male. Crime movies (the "Godmother?" "Goodgals?") Mob up ladies, Hollywood is a waitin! Once more most of the movie-sexy crimes are commited by men. Cop movies? Nobody's keeping you ladies from wearing a badge, yet few of you do. 5. Female audience oriented movies and shows? Let's take Twilight and True Blood for example. Women love entertainment where several men are fawning on one woman, competing for one woman. It sells big. If women don't like that, blame the female audience those kinds of films are targeted at for needing their attention whore fantasies played to. 6. Of course bogus femculture studies conveniently limit to cinema, because they know if they included TV and TV movies, where war, westerns, crime, adventure aren't done as much as dramas due to budget constraints, the difference might even tilt the other way. Lifetime is full of TV movies featuring predominately female roles. Will go out on a limb and say that women are actually overrepresented in many movie genres given the movie's context. Studios bend over backwards to insert female roles no matter how improbable, gratuitous or historically inaccurate. Men simply do more blockbuster movie fodder type things, for good or bad, Rooster Cogburn v Hannibal Lecter, Jack Ryan v Vito Corleone. If women want more roles in blockbusters, they need to start doing more extreme good and evil things IRL.
dasein Posted December 8, 2011 Posted December 8, 2011 Oh, I forgot comic book movies and movies based on graphic novels. Young men love them some comic books, some young women do too, but not that many. This may be the biggest blockbuster movie category of all. Is it any wonder movies based on comic books have mostly male speaking roles? I think movies like the X Men and Batman series bend over backwards to be fair in female roles. I have a good mind to write those femidiots at UCLA or USC or wherever they are, what a colossally slanted waste of time, effort and someone's grant money.
El Brujo Posted December 8, 2011 Posted December 8, 2011 Yeah us older chicks like the chest hair. I love it. The last guy I dated asked me about manscaping. I told him I didn't like a big, hairy dick bush. I didn't say a word about chest hair because I love it. Well would you believe that mother f*cker shaved EVERYTHING!! I was so mad because he has luscious chest hair. He did end up growing it back, but I was pissed. Whoa... I have so much freaking hair on my back and chest and arms, they could use my skin for Brillo pads when I croak! What a coincidence... I've shaved my spear (and spheres) for about 3 or 4 years now. I got the idea from some guy named Bad Bob who's in his 50s and says the ladies love it. WARNING: DO NOT ever apply Nair or Neet to your works---you'll feel like you're on fire!!!!! (yes I was dumb enough to try it as a teenager) But I haven't grown a beard for about 20 years now... nobody recognized me when I had a beard.
Disenchantedly Yours Posted December 8, 2011 Posted December 8, 2011 dasein Huffington Post has about as much bias credibility as Rush Limbaugh, but OK. You realize that articles end up on more then one site, not becaue they are promoted by a particular website but because a free lance writer writes the article right? The articled talked about how women weren't just underrepresented but where also over sexualized and the age group that was the most sexualized was teenagers, even over 21-39 year olds. So please tell me how that fits into your theory that the only reason women are underrepresented is because most movies are War/Military/superhero themes. Are these War movies sexualizing teen girls? Regardless *if* most movies are such subject matters you mentioned, that just proves the article's point. That women are underrepresented. That the stories that are coming out in the movies are about men. As for movies like "Star Troopers", the women in the movie are in it for their sex appeal. I looked up the movie and there are 11 main male actors listed and 4 female actors listed. I don't see how that fits into your argument Star Troopers is a good example of male/female role equality. You might want to consider looking up the 100 top grossing films from 2009 and tell me how many Westerns or War films are among the mix. You also might want to pay more attention to male and female leads and the ages of the female leads vs her male counterpart. Usually the man is older. I love adventure movies and historical themes. Women enjoy high impact adventure movies just like men do. The lastest Indian Jones film? Great. 2012? Sign me up. Women might not be as much into horror but that's not really what your saying. I'm not sure what conection you are trying to draw here. You are pretty much saying that women don't like any generes but what..romance? That men are the ones that like the adventure/historical/western/war movies but women don't? What's left for women to like then? I would say comedies but even within comedies, there is a high market of men over women. Women do appear to like movies where several men compete over one woman. However, the study was about the general theme in the top grossing movies and how men and women played roles in them. The findings are in the article. It doesn't matter that women have things like Twlight and True Blood. The study was not about specific female media. It was about Hollywood, the top grossing movies, and what roles men and women play in them. Studios DO bend over backwards to insert female roles. And these female roles are usually for younger women, showing off their sexual appeal, rather then offering a real value to the film other then some T&A. And that is exactly what the study found.
dasein Posted December 8, 2011 Posted December 8, 2011 This is a rare occasion when I'm so right on this point as to not need to discuss it much further. You are welcome to your illusions. The article you cited is crap and the study it contains is crap. Even if only 25% of top 100 movies were war, western, crime/mob, cop, adventure/historical, comic book (I suspect 30-50% at least are in those genres), it would explain away the higher number of male speaking roles quite handily. And since that ridiculously slanted premise is the raison d' etre of the study, the whole thing is bogus. Not going to waste any more of my time looking into it further.
Disenchantedly Yours Posted December 8, 2011 Posted December 8, 2011 This is a rare occasion when I'm so right on this point as to not need to discuss it much further. So you admit you are often wrong then. You are welcome to your illusions. The article you cited is crap and the study it contains is crap. Even if only 25% of top 100 movies were war, western, crime/mob, cop, adventure/historical, comic book (I suspect 30-50% at least are in those genres), it would explain away the higher number of male speaking roles quite handily. And since that ridiculously slanted premise is the raison d' etre of the study, the whole thing is bogus. Not going to waste any more of my time looking into it further. Yeah..why would you want to waste time reading into a topic you clearly feel passionate about.
dasein Posted December 8, 2011 Posted December 8, 2011 This is a rare occasion when I'm so right on this point as to not need to discuss it much further. So you admit you are often wrong then. I know that any further responsive reply to you will result in more distorted unreason on the level of the above, so it isn't worth my time. My prior posts on the topic stand.
ShannonMI Posted December 8, 2011 Posted December 8, 2011 Whoa... I have so much freaking hair on my back and chest and arms, they could use my skin for Brillo pads when I croak! What a coincidence... I've shaved my spear (and spheres) for about 3 or 4 years now. I got the idea from some guy named Bad Bob who's in his 50s and says the ladies love it. WARNING: DO NOT ever apply Nair or Neet to your works---you'll feel like you're on fire!!!!! (yes I was dumb enough to try it as a teenager) But I haven't grown a beard for about 20 years now... nobody recognized me when I had a beard. Hahahahaha don't mean to laugh about the Nair comment but that is pretty funny.:lmao: That sh*t is like battery acid. Beards look good on certain men. Some men can pull it off and some can not. The last guy I dated with the hairy chest would grow a beard and he looked 10 times better with it then when he was cleanly shaven. He would keep the beard even though he bitched that it was itchy and uncomfortable because he told me I treated him like a stranger when he shaved it off. I did too. I didn't like it. He was more rugged and manly with a nice beard. I'm not talking a ZZ Top beard, but a full one that was trimmed nicely. My other ex on the other hand looks like a jackass with a beard. It's all sparse and bald in some spots. I recently saw him out and saw he was trying to sport a full beard. He looked HORRIBLE. Some dudes can do it and some can't.
Disenchantedly Yours Posted December 9, 2011 Posted December 9, 2011 I know that any further responsive reply to you will result in more distorted unreason on the level of the above, so it isn't worth my time. My prior posts on the topic stand. You're prior posts can stand all they want. But since my counter comments pointed out the inconsistancies in them, it's not going to do your argument much good. Lets hug now.
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