LoveTKO Posted December 5, 2011 Posted December 5, 2011 ....so if there's a smidgen of suspicion that Gingrich could have conducted an affair on "company time", we should have given Clinton a free pass because "everybody does it anyway". Again, you can't point at bad behavior to justify your own bad behavior, I agree that partisan politics and the no holds barred smear campaigns are counterproductive. At the same time, as a politician, you should have the wherewithal to not engage in any reckless activity that can hurt your party and country. This one was on Clinton, and I really like the guy a lot! Simple commons sense; if you're being investigated for sexual harassment by a former associate (Paula Jones), then why, as the Pres. of the USA, on God's green earth would you let a young intern give you an Angry Dragon, and in the White House out of all places?
Woggle Posted December 5, 2011 Posted December 5, 2011 There are things I think we can learn from the Europeans. This is not one of them. If people want to do whatever they want sexually then do it but just be honest about it. If monogamy is not for you why not just be open about it and live how you want without betraying somebody that trusts you? As for Bill Clinton I don't believe he should have been impeached. It was a purely political move by republicans to destroy his presidency but it still should not be condoned. I wish it didn't happen because it handed the republicans a ton of ammo and probably got Bush elected.
Fabian Montenegro Posted December 5, 2011 Posted December 5, 2011 I like how this has turned into a political debate. Internet, you've done it again.
LoveTKO Posted December 5, 2011 Posted December 5, 2011 I like how this has turned into a political debate. Internet, you've done it again. LOL!!........It's kind of hard to resist when someone starts a thread using Bill Clinton as a benchmark for why Americans might be overreacting compared to their European counterparts. Not that it's universal, but I've seen this type of reaction coming from some other Europeans as well. But it always relates to vices or substance abuse. The Dutch are proud of their approach to prostitution and drugs, but as long as it's not their daughter or tolerated in their neighborhood, You know.....let "those" people and neighborhoods deal with it. Yes, we're an advanced civilization.
standtall Posted December 5, 2011 Posted December 5, 2011 What right??? Hello?....the Monica Lewinsky scandal was predicated on the Paula Jones lawsuit, that trailer park looking lady that Clinton was apparently fornicating with. Pauls Jones's lawyers subpoenaed Lewinsky in order to uncover a pattern. Not right in my AMERICA, maybe in your pinko commie, big government, broken country.
LoveTKO Posted December 5, 2011 Posted December 5, 2011 Not right in my AMERICA, maybe in your pinko commie, big government, broken country. Broken country? More immigrants are standing in line here trying to get permanent residency, or dying trying to cross the border, than in any other broken country on this planet.
standtall Posted December 6, 2011 Posted December 6, 2011 Broken country? More immigrants are standing in line here trying to get permanent residency, or dying trying to cross the border, than in any other broken country on this planet. I'm done with this pointless debate.
MissBee Posted December 6, 2011 Posted December 6, 2011 I am fascinated by the cultural differences towards infidelity. Europeans seem to take it in stride...at the funeral of the French Prime Minister Francois Mitterand, his wife stood next to his mistress and no one cared. The American President Bill Clinton, on the other hand, was impeached for oral sex. So my question is this: I know that for some people, sexual infidelity is an abosolute deal breaker and for others it is not. Can people elaborate on their feelings about this? For me, it is not a deal breaker because the emotional aspects (to me) are far more important than the physical ones, but I know people have very strong opinions on all sides and I would like to hear them! If in order to have sex with others you need to lie and betray me...that is the issue and yes that is a dealbreaker. I'd like a relationship in which we can discuss and negotiate ALL things. I am not opposed to us as a couple, if the need should arise, deciding together about sex, as it relates to other people in the mix. I would hope that we have a relationship and sex life that is satisfying with just the two of us...but the point is, IF for whatever reason, that becomes an issue and concern, I'd like my husband to be able to address it with me and I'd like to be able to address that with him, if I should ever feel that way. If we're both slinking around in the shadows to have extramarital sex...then YES that is a big problem. It is not about the sex. It is about the deceit, betrayal and so forth that accompanied it. The sex isn't just freestanding....
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