Bingojack Posted November 25, 2011 Posted November 25, 2011 Do women now and days appreciate a good man? Like with all the kinds of people the run around now and days. Crazies and all. Do women appreciate good men? At least when they have one for their own? Like a man who listens, treats you with respects, and laughs with you. Or a man who can sex you up will good, still treat you good, and is just really into you. Generally a man who showers you with love and affection. Is that appreciated? With all the psychos running around now and days. Any girl that falls into my lap thats good. I appreciate them to the max.
Feelsgoodman Posted November 25, 2011 Posted November 25, 2011 Are you a woman? I didnt want a sarcastic answer. If you're a man who's seeking dating advice from women, you've failed already.
dizy Posted November 25, 2011 Posted November 25, 2011 what you described is a perfect man and perfection is in extinction.
Duckduckgoose Posted November 25, 2011 Posted November 25, 2011 Yes. Once a woman has had her ass burned off by the jerks she takes a second look at the good guys that will treat her right, but might not have that "edge" the jerk guy has that keeps him mysterious.
cdm369 Posted November 25, 2011 Posted November 25, 2011 I hope that they are out there but all being"a good guy" has got me is stepped on. Maybe just fall for the wrong ones.
betterdeal Posted November 25, 2011 Posted November 25, 2011 I think that nowadays many women are looking for a stand up kind of guy just as much as before. They aren't as self-publicising as some other women, and that's because they're pretty stable people and don't have to flaunt their goods to get attention. In fact, their need for attention is more reasonable, sustainable. That said, they like a twinkle in your eye and a sense of humour, so it's a balance of being reliable, kind, having strength of strong character and being fun.
RiverRunning Posted November 25, 2011 Posted November 25, 2011 No, not at all! But of course a lot of women SAY they like nice guys but part of them also loves the dopamine rush of chasing a bad guy. And then they break up, go back, repeat 10 times in a row before they smarten up and move on, if ever. I was out at a restaurant recently and one of my friends there took note of the fact that I've been with my partner for over 3 years. "You're so lucky," she told me. "I go out on dates with guys and they're all still sleeping with their exes, they're psycho, they think they can get in your pants right away, they refuse to pay for anything on the date, they compare you to their exes or the friends they have crushes on, they ask you for advice about some other woman they're interested in...it's no fun at all." It was really a wake-up call and a glimpse into what else I might have to wade through again if I'm single again. It's one of the things that has given me pause in leaving my current relationship. Despite some things that happened in the past, and some ongoing problems, my boyfriend is really OK to me. And he certainly showers me with physical affection and acts like I'm the greatest thing that ever happened to him. I like being treated well. I'd never go back to my last relationship, where the guy acted like I was the best he could get.
counterman Posted November 25, 2011 Posted November 25, 2011 Some do, some don't. I find that many of the really attractive women who have many options have to go through the trouble of dating 'bad' boys to really appreciate a good guy. The thing is I'm unwilling to date a girl who has a history of dating douchebags and is only dating me because she's realised after the 100th douchebag she's dated that I'll probably treat her better There are other girls who would settle for the first decent guy they date, who I'm unwilling to date either because she sees me as husband material on the first date. If a girl doesn't appreciate me, then I move on. I treat every girl I date with respect and expect the same. If she shows any signs of taking me for granted, then I'm off. If she shows any signs of pining after a douchebag, sorry, I'm not that type.
grkBoy Posted November 25, 2011 Posted November 25, 2011 I think women do appreciate a good man, but they still want him to come "packaged" a certain way.
phineas Posted November 25, 2011 Posted November 25, 2011 I think women do appreciate a good man, but they still want him to come "packaged" a certain way. And they will more often than not choose the not so good man packaged that certain way. Which is fine. I just keep looking for a woman that wants my package & not dwell on the one's who want another guys package.
b_80_h Posted November 25, 2011 Posted November 25, 2011 And they will more often than not choose the not so good man packaged that certain way. Which is fine. I just keep looking for a woman that wants my package & not dwell on the one's who want another guys package. Hopefully they don't want your package wrapped in a different paper, or a different package in your shade. Those are people to avoid.
Oxy Moronovich Posted November 25, 2011 Posted November 25, 2011 Some women appreciate abuse. Some women appreciate kindness. Nevertheless, I believe they all appreciate attention.
b_80_h Posted November 25, 2011 Posted November 25, 2011 Some women appreciate abuse. Some women appreciate kindness. Nevertheless, I believe they all appreciate attention. All of us like attention. As a guy, I know I've stayed around in ****ty relationships due to the promise of sex or intimacy, just because I wouldn't have that attention otherwise... It's a fatal flaw for both sexes
NeoGen85 Posted November 25, 2011 Posted November 25, 2011 I agree with a lot of the post. But I notice that many women and men have their own standards for goodness. It takes some people awhile to realize that they missed out on something or what they currently have isn't good for them. I have two friends who were in a relationship for a long time. The woman moved on to another man and her ex felt devastated. He still wasn't over her even after a year of being separated. But this gave him the time to grow into a stronger man. While that's happening his ex-girlfriend is engaged to a douchebag. But this said douchebag eventually leaves her. Two months later the same girl is engaged again to a man I scratch my head at. The whole thing is just horrible. She is slowly coming to the realization that she hasn't made the best choices mainly because she calls the man she was once with in the beginning for help. He doesn't bother because his heart is with someone else. Too little, to late.
Feelsgoodman Posted November 25, 2011 Posted November 25, 2011 Yes. Once a woman has had her ass burned off by the jerks she takes a second look at the good guys that will treat her right, but might not have that "edge" the jerk guy has that keeps him mysterious. Unfortunately for her, most good guys (not to be confused with the stereotypical white knight "nice guys") want nothing to do with a washed up broad that f*cked half the football team.
grkBoy Posted November 26, 2011 Posted November 26, 2011 And they will more often than not choose the not so good man packaged that certain way. Well yeah, then they home to "shape" him into being a good man.
Wolf18 Posted November 26, 2011 Posted November 26, 2011 No, women just don't care about that anymore. If you're a guy who puts others before yourself, most women just think you're a sucker and take you for a ride. Nowadays women define masculinity by how defined your abs are or how much money you make. A lot of men are buying into this way of thinking, gay and woman-defined manhood, neglecting real masculinity to look like some bone smuggling calvin klein model. I honestly don't think masculinity and effeminate democracy-consumerism can live side by side without some kind of boiling point, it can be as wide spread as Mussolini's blackshirts or smaller scale plooms of smoke like Virginia Tech. My definition of a good man is not the same as a womans.
phineas Posted November 26, 2011 Posted November 26, 2011 No, women just don't care about that anymore. If you're a guy who puts others before yourself, most women just think you're a sucker and take you for a ride. Nowadays women define masculinity by how defined your abs are or how much money you make. A lot of men are buying into this way of thinking, gay and woman-defined manhood, neglecting real masculinity to look like some bone smuggling calvin klein model. I honestly don't think masculinity and effeminate democracy-consumerism can live side by side without some kind of boiling point, it can be as wide spread as Mussolini's blackshirts or smaller scale plooms of smoke like Virginia Tech. My definition of a good man is not the same as a womans. Ya know what? Every woman that went out with me then basically blew me off 50lbs ago initiated contact with me the week I updated my Facebook profile pic back in the spring when I first started wearing 32 waist pants. You'll never convince me it was a coincidence. LOL!
monkey00 Posted November 26, 2011 Posted November 26, 2011 Women do appreciate a good man and the kindness in the way he treats her. The problem is it usually winds up being women in their late 20's and up. At that point they are looking for a provider, someone who can take care of her, and someone who's going be a good husband and father to their children. From what I've seen that tends to be the case.
Peitho Posted November 26, 2011 Posted November 26, 2011 Honestly, I don’t think your question has anything to do with gender. Some women love jerks, some men love bitches… Some people appreciate a good thing when it happens to them, some don’t. No gender differences here. Nowadays women define masculinity by how defined your abs are or how much money you make. A lot of men are buying into this way of thinking, gay and woman-defined manhood, neglecting real masculinity to look like some bone smuggling calvin klein model. I honestly don't think masculinity and effeminate democracy-consumerism can live side by side without some kind of boiling point, it can be as wide spread as Mussolini's blackshirts or smaller scale plooms of smoke like Virginia Tech. My definition of a good man is not the same as a womans. So, how do you define masculinity?
Woggle Posted November 26, 2011 Posted November 26, 2011 Women do but overgrown little girls don't. Huge difference.
Optimus_Rhyme Posted November 26, 2011 Posted November 26, 2011 Women do appreciate a good man and the kindness in the way he treats her. The problem is it usually winds up being women in their late 20's and up. At that point they are looking for a provider, someone who can take care of her, and someone who's going be a good husband and father to their children. From what I've seen that tends to be the case. This, Women at that age group, assuming they haven't beome jaded, also notice and appreciate good men more. If it wasnt for my age, i'd already be in a long term relationship.
Wolf18 Posted November 26, 2011 Posted November 26, 2011 Women don't like men who are doormats in that the sense that they always put others' needs before theirs. Women like guys who are empathetic and warm but also have a healthy ego and confidence. It's really that simple. Most of the guys on this forum have zero confidence and are incredibly bitter and those are huge attraction killers. Wrong. Being selfish doesn't = confidence. So, how do you define masculinity? [/Quote] It's got nothing to do with being 7 feet tall or having huge traps. Insane courage, selflessness to the point where you give someone the shirt off your back, sticking by the truth no matter what the odds are, a great apettite for women, no fear of death, dominant and protective, strong in will and emotions, all in all I think the Byronic hero represents real masculinity pretty well. Most of the guys women go for don't really even have a personality.
Lonely Ronin Posted November 26, 2011 Posted November 26, 2011 It works for me. Exactly. Women generally like guys who are packaged with an edge (so may resemble "bad boys" on the surface) but are warm underneath. That's the golden ticket if you want to attract women.
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