colliejoanie Posted November 23, 2011 Posted November 23, 2011 I'm a 35 year old single mom and am used to doing things on my own, and taking care of myself and my child. I think most women are these days. But that doesn't mean I also want to take care of a man. Recently the guys I've been out with have been complete wimps (to put it mildly). One guy was too cold in the restaurant where we met and switched seats with me away from the window. He's my age, never been married and no children. Another guy said he needed "some me time" at the day spa because his 7 hour work day 4 days a week had gotten to him. Again, never married, no children. I hate to put this out there, as I'm sure i'm going to catch some flack, but feminism sucks. Yes, I'm happy I have the privilege to be able to work and speak and make as much as man......but along with that somehow the men became women!!!! Now we're not only doing our job, but theirs!!!! And they sit back and go to day spas and get the shivers! YUCK! (disclaimer....I know not all men are like this, its just unfortunate the amount that are).
Woggle Posted November 23, 2011 Posted November 23, 2011 There is nothing wrong with unwinding after a day at work but I somewhat agree. Equal rights are not the problem but the fact that many feminists felt the need to bring men down to bring themselves up. Men and women could have stood together as equals and had great relationships but instead many wanted to castrate men instead for whatever reason and we have the situation we have today. I don't condone the way many men are these days but they are a product of our society. As for never marrying it is a risky thing for a man and should only be done with the right woman. Marriage while great with the right person does not make a man a man.
Feelin Frisky Posted November 23, 2011 Posted November 23, 2011 I'd post but I'm spotting right now and I'm just exhausted.
Author colliejoanie Posted November 23, 2011 Author Posted November 23, 2011 Marriage while great with the right person does not make a man a man. Absolutely true.....they don't go hand in hand.
Author colliejoanie Posted November 23, 2011 Author Posted November 23, 2011 I'd post but I'm spotting right now and I'm just exhausted. See????????
phineas Posted November 23, 2011 Posted November 23, 2011 I'm a 35 year old single mom and am used to doing things on my own, and taking care of myself and my child. I think most women are these days. But that doesn't mean I also want to take care of a man. Recently the guys I've been out with have been complete wimps (to put it mildly). One guy was too cold in the restaurant where we met and switched seats with me away from the window. He's my age, never been married and no children. Another guy said he needed "some me time" at the day spa because his 7 hour work day 4 days a week had gotten to him. Again, never married, no children. I hate to put this out there, as I'm sure i'm going to catch some flack, but feminism sucks. Yes, I'm happy I have the privilege to be able to work and speak and make as much as man......but along with that somehow the men became women!!!! Now we're not only doing our job, but theirs!!!! And they sit back and go to day spas and get the shivers! YUCK! (disclaimer....I know not all men are like this, its just unfortunate the amount that are). Are you serious? Day spa? I do have a whirlepool tub in my house, but I installed it myself. I sometimes use it after I spend a few hrs cutting down trees & spliting them. Sadly I meet a lot of women all gaga over the types of men you described & it makes me want to throw up a little in my mouth when they order wine at happy hour.
joeLove Posted November 23, 2011 Posted November 23, 2011 This is a really funny conclusion ... I understand your frustration ... but blaming it on feminism? Just doesn't make any sense whatsoever ...I don't even know how lazyness of people(men) has anything to do with women rights ... I have the feeling you are looking for someone else to blame ... for your situation ... Just my 2 cents ... I'm a 35 year old single mom and am used to doing things on my own, and taking care of myself and my child. I think most women are these days. But that doesn't mean I also want to take care of a man. Recently the guys I've been out with have been complete wimps (to put it mildly). One guy was too cold in the restaurant where we met and switched seats with me away from the window. He's my age, never been married and no children. Another guy said he needed "some me time" at the day spa because his 7 hour work day 4 days a week had gotten to him. Again, never married, no children. I hate to put this out there, as I'm sure i'm going to catch some flack, but feminism sucks. Yes, I'm happy I have the privilege to be able to work and speak and make as much as man......but along with that somehow the men became women!!!! Now we're not only doing our job, but theirs!!!! And they sit back and go to day spas and get the shivers! YUCK! (disclaimer....I know not all men are like this, its just unfortunate the amount that are).
Author colliejoanie Posted November 23, 2011 Author Posted November 23, 2011 ummmmmm......Nope. Not the laziness of men.......you've missed my point......as I'm not talking about my "situation"......but thanks. I'm talking about the feminism of men. And how pathetic it is.
Woggle Posted November 23, 2011 Posted November 23, 2011 ummmmmm......Nope. Not the laziness of men.......you've missed my point......as I'm not talking about my "situation"......but thanks. I'm talking about the feminism of men. And how pathetic it is. It goes hand in hand with the masculization of women.
SteveC80 Posted November 23, 2011 Posted November 23, 2011 I have no idea where your goign with this, a mans a wimp because hes cold, because he goes to the spa and because he makes less money then you? I like to pamper myself once in awhile it doesnt make me less of a Man,some dudes do take it too far but i see nothign wrong with goign to a spa or gettign a massage and relazing,you seem to think all men should act a cetain way way and all women should act another like robots You also seem to feel entitled that a man owes it to you to take care of your kids,we dont Truth is a women with kids is looked at as having baggage and not as desirable as women with no kids sorry
dasein Posted November 23, 2011 Posted November 23, 2011 I go to "day spas" all the time... and get the "shivers"... during the happy ending.
Author colliejoanie Posted November 23, 2011 Author Posted November 23, 2011 Simply saying that it is really unattractive to me. I understand women with "baggage" are unattractive to a lot of guys. And trust me, I'm not looking for anyone to take care of me or my daughter. I'd simply like to date a guy who gets his nails done less than I do, so he can take out the garbage every once in a while.
Author colliejoanie Posted November 23, 2011 Author Posted November 23, 2011 The incidents I pointed out were not isolated. The guy didn't get the shivers and I thought "what a wimp". It was just the icing on the cake. After complaining about the fact there was no parking for his SCOOTER, being "grumpy" because his mom switched Thanksgiving menus, and reading over the wine list for 15 minutes before ordering a RIESLING, I just thought it was funny......and representative of him.......and the types of guys I've found recently. I'm sure other women out there EVEN WITHOUT KIDS would like to date a guy that you felt was a GUY!!
Wolf18 Posted November 23, 2011 Posted November 23, 2011 I agree with you completely OP , I wish more women could value traditional masculinity where I live. Instead , I see women rewarding the questionables who get their eyebrows waxed, wear sandals everywhere or obsess about carbs and am treated like I'm crazy for making fun of them
Cracker Jack Posted November 23, 2011 Posted November 23, 2011 The incidents I pointed out were not isolated. The guy didn't get the shivers and I thought "what a wimp". It was just the icing on the cake. After complaining about the fact there was no parking for his SCOOTER, being "grumpy" because his mom switched Thanksgiving menus, and reading over the wine list for 15 minutes before ordering a RIESLING, I just thought it was funny......and representative of him.......and the types of guys I've found recently. I'm sure other women out there EVEN WITHOUT KIDS would like to date a guy that you felt was a GUY!! Oh, lawd. If you don't mind me asking, where are you meeting these "men" at?
Feelsgoodman Posted November 23, 2011 Posted November 23, 2011 I know this sounds harsh, but men who are not "wimps" do not date 35 year old single moms. You should have been looking for "real men" when you were childless and in your 20s. The guys you are attracting now are "chidults" in search of a second mommy.
Author colliejoanie Posted November 23, 2011 Author Posted November 23, 2011 I know this sounds harsh, but men who are not "wimps" do not date 35 year old single moms. You should have been looking for "real men" when you were childless and in your 20s. The guys you are attracting now are "chidults" in search of a second mommy. And I'm not even offended by this! Haha! But who's to say I didn't find my share of "real Men" in my past??? Otherwise, I'd have nothing to compare these "chidults" to. Also, I don't feel I'm washed up at 35. Not in the least. That's ridiculous. I know that people's relationships don't work out for many reasons and therefore there are many 35 year old single moms and dads out there who are looking to grow old ONE DAY (because I'm not old ) with someone else who's compatible.
Feelsgoodman Posted November 23, 2011 Posted November 23, 2011 (edited) Also, I don't feel I'm washed up at 35. Not in the least. That's ridiculous. I know that people's relationships don't work out for many reasons and therefore there are many 35 year old single moms and dads out there who are looking to grow old ONE DAY (because I'm not old ) with someone else who's compatible. I'm not saying you are washed up. I'm saying that your choice of men is much more limited now. I don't think it's particularity controversial to say that men prefer women who are younger and have no kids/baggage. The only way to get around this is to date a guy who is much older...or date a guy who needs help changing a light bulb. Edited November 23, 2011 by Feelsgoodman
SincereOnlineGuy Posted November 25, 2011 Posted November 25, 2011 I'm happy I have the privilege to be able to ... speak Wait, what? You're 35 years old, and happy to be able to speak, and the guys are "wimps"? Forget Loveshack. This is the point at which you place a mindless ad in the classifieds thanking St. Jude.
Ruby Slippers Posted November 25, 2011 Posted November 25, 2011 As a friend of mine said today, "Women are the new men."
dasein Posted November 25, 2011 Posted November 25, 2011 As a friend of mine said today, "Women are the new men." Well they do have fragile egos, act like spoiled children, and do plenty of drinking and f-cking. Where are the geniuses though?
Woggle Posted November 25, 2011 Posted November 25, 2011 Of course some don't like when they actually do get treated like men. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-2065969/The-rise-manimony-Meet-women-making-huge-sacrifices-pay-thousands-alimony-husbands.html Not all women act like this but if bleeding your spouse is wrong now it was wrong when it being done to men. If women want men to be men then they should start acting like ladies themselves. If you believe in gender roles then live up to your end of the bargain. You can't go around preaching about breaking gender roles while at the same time getting mad at men who don't act manly.
grkBoy Posted November 25, 2011 Posted November 25, 2011 I'm a 35 year old single mom and am used to doing things on my own, and taking care of myself and my child. I think most women are these days. But that doesn't mean I also want to take care of a man. Recently the guys I've been out with have been complete wimps (to put it mildly). One guy was too cold in the restaurant where we met and switched seats with me away from the window. He's my age, never been married and no children. Another guy said he needed "some me time" at the day spa because his 7 hour work day 4 days a week had gotten to him. Again, never married, no children. I hate to put this out there, as I'm sure i'm going to catch some flack, but feminism sucks. Yes, I'm happy I have the privilege to be able to work and speak and make as much as man......but along with that somehow the men became women!!!! Now we're not only doing our job, but theirs!!!! And they sit back and go to day spas and get the shivers! YUCK! (disclaimer....I know not all men are like this, its just unfortunate the amount that are). YOU'RE A SINGLE MOM!!!! You should be happy men even talk to you. You're damaged goods...failure...you're done and should honestly find a nice quiet corner to die in so we men can focus on the hot young childless women. I'M KIDDING of course. I have a feeling this is more a case of where you're just meeting the wrong guys. I'd just tell you to be patient and wait for the right one to come along. I'm glad you're at least trying. Sadly I meet a lot of women all gaga over the types of men you described & it makes me want to throw up a little in my mouth when they order wine at happy hour. I'm metro and I'm proud. Although I never go to that extreme. I've never had my eyebrows done. My "metro" is more about good skin, styled hair, and good fashion sense. Although I do miss when I used to get the paraffin wax on my hands and hot towels on my face. Been going just for normal haircuts over the men's spa I used to hit up. I also have grown to love Vesper Martinis.
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