ChessPieceFace Posted November 20, 2011 Posted November 20, 2011 Wow how shallow and superficial. Most men love a women with little to no makeup. Obviously she's not the right girl for you if you don't find her attractive without sh*t on her face. Time to move on. Maybe you should date a drag queen. They wear tons of makeup:D Uh, some girls are pretty without makeup and some aren't. Get that stick out of your !@% and deal with it. Guys have to do all kinds of crap to be attractive, women mostly just have to look hot. So get off the couch and pick up that little makeup kit instead of being such a !@$#@.
Els Posted November 20, 2011 Posted November 20, 2011 Do you work for L'Oreal or something? Did that 89 year old French billionair Liliane Bettencourt set you up to this? "Because you're worth it." I think I second Nexus's POV, actually. Maybe this guy isn't JUST a troll.
Ilovewater Posted November 20, 2011 Posted November 20, 2011 Uh, some girls are pretty without makeup and some aren't. Get that stick out of your !@% and deal with it. Guys have to do all kinds of crap to be attractive, women mostly just have to look hot. So get off the couch and pick up that little makeup kit instead of being such a !@$#@. What exactly do men do to be attractive that's so special that women don't do? Work out, dress nicely, have a decent haircut. Women do all of that. However, do men spend hundreds of dollars and hours on products that change their face so that they look more attractive? Ummm...not the men I know. Then, I don't see why men expect women to wear make-up all the time to look "hot" for them. Our purpose isn't to look good for men. I agree with Shannon. Most men prefer women with little to no make-up. I've worn make-up ONCE in my entire life. I've never worn make-up on a date, and none of the men have ever complained. My current boyfriend actually said that he's happy that I don't wear make-up because he prefers a natural face.
Ilovewater Posted November 20, 2011 Posted November 20, 2011 There have been studies that have found men actually do find women more attractive with makeup, but the idea that lack of eyeliner would transform the OP's "girlfriend" from pretty into an ogre is suspiciously troll-like. Of course men find women more attractive with makeup on. That's the point of using makeup. In a study, when you're shown a two pictures, one woman without makeup and one without, of course most men would pick the one with makeup. However, most men I know don't always want to see their girlfriends or wives with makeup on a daily basis. They want to see their women with their natural face.
mammamia1 Posted November 20, 2011 Posted November 20, 2011 Maybe this guy isn't JUST a troll. he made me look up "plastic surgery near me" darn What exactly do men do to be attractive that's so special that women don't do?I think you misunderstood. Maybe he meant men have to try hard in career, work out more often and stuff to be "attractive". Versus women mostly have to take care of their look only.
Ilovewater Posted November 20, 2011 Posted November 20, 2011 I think you misunderstood. Maybe he meant men have to try hard in career, work out more often and stuff to be "attractive". Versus women mostly have to take care of their look only. If that's what he meant, then I misunderstood. However, I still don't agree that all women have to do is to look "hot". Looks can only get you so far. Generally, successful men want women who are also successful, not just the ones that look good.
Shaun-Dro Posted November 20, 2011 Posted November 20, 2011 i have been dating this girl for 6 months now and i loved her early on and thought she was pretty and everything... recently i', starting to see her without eyeliner (she dooesnt wear anything else) and getting less attracted to her and today after seeing her considering whether or not to breakup. I know looks isn't everything in a relationship but she thinks i'm one of the most handsome guys she's seen (even though i dont think so) and i've asked her whether she'd date certain guys based on looks and she says its a huge factor, but if i see her without makeup and ask her to wear she gets upset and sensitive... what should i do edit: i dont mind if she doesnt wear it a few days here and there, but she seems to be getting lazy and wearing it less often.. i mite of been a bit confusing in my post This is a common theme with women when they get into relationships with men. They tend to let themselves go in various ways. It might also count towards why they make it harder for men to get into a relationship with them is because deep down they know that once a man discovers her physical flaws aside her personality ones, he'll take off! I speak from experience because I've done the same thing. A quick little story for you: when I was in college during my earlier years, it was a girl that I wanted so freaking bad it was killing me. I'd done about anything under the moon to get her to give me a chance. I thought to my self that she was that fine. This was the facade she presented to me. When given the shot, I was all over her the first couple of meetings until it came the time to sleep with her. That's when it all changed. Waking up in the middle of the night to see the makeup gone from her face which then turned her into another Plain Jane. Her breath didn't smell good either, which also took me back, and then she became suddenly needy; wanting to talk about everything in her life and I just wasn't feeling her to care about hearing it. That's the cold hard truth! So, OP, this is why it's safer to go after a woman (must be young) that's looking natural without hardly any makeup and loves to keep fit; not just a woman that appears good on the outside but won't lift a thing to work out because those types will let themselves go once they feel you're a keeper so tread these waters very lightly.
Star Gazer Posted November 20, 2011 Posted November 20, 2011 All of the varginas who are constantly calling women the fairer sex and talking about how much more beautiful the average woman is have never seen a woman without makeup You don't think the average woman has never seen a woman without makeup? Are you kidding?
ChessPieceFace Posted November 20, 2011 Posted November 20, 2011 What exactly do men do to be attractive that's so special that women don't do? - Be naturally attractive - Be tall - Be in shape - Be charismatic - Have a good job - Have a nice car - Have confidence - Be a walking contradiction between what women say they want and what they actually want - Do everything right at all times While women have to: - Be naturally attractive and/or attractive in makeup - Be in shape and then everything else is just a bonus.
Eternal Sunshine Posted November 20, 2011 Posted November 20, 2011 I think you are either a troll or just really inexperienced. My boyfriend who only had one mid-LTR before me thought that I look different with and without makeup (of course I do). He got used to it though and he now sees me mostly with no make-up around the house (except for an eyeliner, I always have that on as it takes 5 seconds to apply). A man who only had a relationship with porn images would be shocked though.
Negative Nancy Posted November 20, 2011 Posted November 20, 2011 Sorry if men started wearing padded shirts, discreet height increasing shoes that make a 5'7 into 5'11, or those fake bulge attachments they used to sell at pornshops, women would be furious and disgusted. You're lucky men let you use game genie on your looks . hilarious comparison, cracked me up there's a saying, "if a used car dealer did to his cars what women do to their bodies, he'd end up in jail" but it's true...i too agree that women are not the "more beautiful sex", not all the time anyway. many women only look good with make-up, and when i see some older women who've let themselves go.... but there's also men that look disgusting, so it's men and women... i freely admit that i look bad without make-up and with make-up i look so-so. my bf still sometimes tells me i look cute or pretty w/o it (don't know if he's lying ) , so maybe OP needs to find someone he can appreciate like that. i'd also like to add that porn and the media are to blame and i bet the OP has watched too much porn with perfectly dolled up women and is now disillusioned that his gf doesn't live up to these expectations and standards that these crappy "movies" have set for him... :rolleyes : a woman that looks good without make-up qualifies as the "holy" 10 on here, i bet...but these are rare. just like you don't see men every day that roll out of bed and look like a model...there's some because their facial features are so symmetrical, but not the majority of men...
Negative Nancy Posted November 20, 2011 Posted November 20, 2011 Oh yeah Ruby Slippers, I'm sure you wouldn't care if one of your boyfriends lost 6 inches of height overnight or was unemployed for 2 years. Yes that is how radically different many women look with and without makeup. This is a good comparison. I also love DY's point and agree with her - I always say, if I had their money, time and professional Makeup-artists and hairstylists, I could look like a better glamour version of myself too.
Negative Nancy Posted November 20, 2011 Posted November 20, 2011 While women have to: - Be naturally attractive and/or attractive in makeup - Be in shape and then everything else is just a bonus. so a good personality is just a "bonus"? a woman can be an airhead, mean to you, as long as she looks good? you're in for some trouble if you're actually looking for a LTR and not just an ONS...
Disenchantedly Yours Posted November 20, 2011 Posted November 20, 2011 I read an article that they did a study about make up and what men like. They took one woman, took 3 different pictures of her with different amounts of make up. Picture one was a litle make up, picture two was moderate make-up, picture three was a lot of make up. They asked the guys before hand what they liked and most of the guys said "a little". But when they showed the men the pictures, most of htem picked the moderate amount of make-up. Men don't put make-up on, how would they know what "a little" make up is vs. "moderate".
phineas Posted November 20, 2011 Posted November 20, 2011 I read an article that they did a study about make up and what men like. They took one woman, took 3 different pictures of her with different amounts of make up. Picture one was a litle make up, picture two was moderate make-up, picture three was a lot of make up. They asked the guys before hand what they liked and most of the guys said "a little". But when they showed the men the pictures, most of htem picked the moderate amount of make-up. Men don't put make-up on, how would they know what "a little" make up is vs. "moderate". True. I have no clue on make-up application, I just know it takes FOREVER for them to put it on. WTF?!?!? I prefer women to not wear make-up. I can't stand kissing someone with lipstick. Then there is the stuff they put on their face that gets on anything that touches it. A little eye shadow is ok but all the other crap? No thank you. I prefer my women natural. Period. Everyone has zits & imperfections. Women who don't wear make-up don't need an hr to get ready to go out. The hair spray obsession is another post. LOL!
Nexus One Posted November 20, 2011 Posted November 20, 2011 (edited) I read an article that they did a study about make up and what men like. They took one woman, took 3 different pictures of her with different amounts of make up. Picture one was a litle make up, picture two was moderate make-up, picture three was a lot of make up. They asked the guys before hand what they liked and most of the guys said "a little". But when they showed the men the pictures, most of htem picked the moderate amount of make-up. Men don't put make-up on, how would they know what "a little" make up is vs. "moderate". I see so many holes in a study like that, I don't know where to even begin. First thing I'd want to know is who paid for the study. If it's paid for by L'Oreal, then I know enough. Not only are such studies often biased, but they're also known for picking ridiculously small sample sizes and control groups. In order to conduct a study that reflects society one would need at least 1200 participants and an equal amount in the control group. Many studies do not reach that number, especially not those from L'Oreal with their 30 participants which are PAID by them. Their studies and methods are also never fully published for peer review, which pretty much kills any credibility. Edited November 20, 2011 by Nexus One
stillafool Posted November 20, 2011 Posted November 20, 2011 I agree that most men like women who wear very little makeup to no makeup. The problem with that is you have to be naturally pretty without it. Pretty skin, eyes, hair and body. The problem is few people have all 4 of those things.
Ilovewater Posted November 20, 2011 Posted November 20, 2011 - Be naturally attractive - Be tall - Be in shape - Be charismatic - Have a good job - Have a nice car - Have confidence - Be a walking contradiction between what women say they want and what they actually want - Do everything right at all times While women have to: - Be naturally attractive and/or attractive in makeup - Be in shape and then everything else is just a bonus. Right...because having a brain and personality isn't necessary at all.
ChessPieceFace Posted November 20, 2011 Posted November 20, 2011 Right...because having a brain and personality isn't necessary at all. I meet countless women with no brain and no personality who have relationships. Have you ever met anyone? Have you ever left the house? The list wasn't "the perfect list of qualities for the perfect relationship", it was "basic requirements for each sex, for successfully landing dates." Sorry no one here has any reading comprehension, or really any kind of comprehension of anything.
Mme. Chaucer Posted November 20, 2011 Posted November 20, 2011 I meet countless women with no brain and no personality who have relationships. I have met countless men with no brain, no personality, no job, no car, and no teeth who have relationships. So what.
Ilovewater Posted November 20, 2011 Posted November 20, 2011 I meet countless women with no brain and no personality who have relationships. Have you ever met anyone? Have you ever left the house? Or maybe the people I know just have more class.
ChessPieceFace Posted November 20, 2011 Posted November 20, 2011 Or maybe the people I know just have more class. More likely they are like you, and just think they have more class.
Wolf18 Posted November 20, 2011 Posted November 20, 2011 I have met countless men with no brain, no personality, no job, no car, and no teeth who have relationships. So what. With no personality or brain? Absolutely. With no job, car or TEETH? Yeah right. Right...because having a brain and personality isn't necessary at all. Today 10:48 AM[/Quote] That is a huge bonus, but most women who have a brain or personality already have a boyfriend and are quite rare.
Ilovewater Posted November 21, 2011 Posted November 21, 2011 More likely they are like you, and just think they have more class. As long as everyone who actually knows me think I have class, that's fine by me. With no personality or brain? Absolutely. With no job, car or TEETH? Yeah right. It does happen A LOT more than you think. I volunteered at a county hospital and STD clinic in college, and there were so many men who had no jobs, cars, etc. However, most of them had relationships with other women who supported their laziness. Sad, but true.
Disenchantedly Yours Posted November 21, 2011 Posted November 21, 2011 I could wile away the hours Conferrin' with the flowers Consultin' with the rain And my head I'd be scratchin' While my thoughts were busy hatchin' If I only had a brain
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