whichwayisup Posted November 19, 2011 Posted November 19, 2011 If irresponsible adults can get married and divorced multiple times why cant my daughter? If you have to ask this, then there's seriously something very wrong here. If you need to me to explain it to you, I will but I'm hoping you can figure it out on your own.
Mr. Marvellous Posted November 19, 2011 Posted November 19, 2011 :eek:This is the easiest answer I've ever posted: NO.
ShatteredReality Posted November 21, 2011 Posted November 21, 2011 Obviously - either way you look at it this situation, if it's being portrayed at all accurately by mom or 14yo, this situation is filthy. OP - any argument can be made about how things are done in other countries. In some 3rd world countries families sell their daughters into sexual slavery to ensure they are at least fed and have a roof to live under for awhile as well as to feed the remaining children in the household. Does that mean it's ok? Well I suppose if you live there and sell your daughter you must believe it's ok to do so. Other countries still practice prearranged marriage. And yet others, you're right, don't put huge age limitations on marriage for their little girls. In the United States, however, it's against the law to have a greater than 2yr age gap for minors. Now that "cap" could be 16 in some states, 17 in others, and 18 in yet others. There is a reason laws have been made against grown men sleeping with pre-teens or early teens. No matter the "maturity" level, the hormones and brains of people that young are still forming - thereby making them easy prey to someone with more experience. Any man who wants to sleep with a woman that young - not yet completely developed in her body or brain - does so because he likes children. For a parent to turn a blind eye to such behavior - allowing a 12yo to choose to become sexually active, allowing a 14 yo to call the shots on who she sleeps with and allowing a pedophile to live under her roof and violate her daughter on a regular basis, is irresponsible and has absolutely no parenting skills whatsoever. Either because of apathy or inexperience - perhaps was a teen pregnancy herself and never did fully grow up as many do. If this isn't a troll post, then go ahead and go to the local police station, give them your names and addresses, outline the situation and see what they say. Dare you. I have a 10yo son and the thought of him being sexually involved with someone in two short years - skipping so much of the necessary learning time of his early teens - makes me feel ill...that that's if he were to be with someone his age! It says nothing of if some older woman took advantage of him and raped him! At 14 a 21yo man forced me to go down on him - I will bear the scars of that time for the rest of my life. It has taken me over 15yrs to come to terms with what exactly went on that night and how his actions were something that happened to me and not something "I did". To hear that there are parents out there who allow this type of behavior and even seem to encourage it is sickening. I sincerely hope this is a troll post where our troll is just in to get the rise outta people... If it's the 14yo....well then I fell awful for you and the disjointed and dysfunctional life you already have ahead of you. If it's the parent and this is real? You need to be sterilized and stop freaking breeding...cause you're a disgrace to parenthood.
Janerichi Posted November 22, 2011 Posted November 22, 2011 i don't think so that it would be better for her to marry at this early age....
reboot Posted November 22, 2011 Posted November 22, 2011 OP is a man. You can tell by the way he words his posts. Women don't write like that.
frozensprouts Posted November 22, 2011 Posted November 22, 2011 I just want to know whose watching over the double-wide while the OP is ranting and raving in this thread? i know i shouldn't post this but....
ShatteredReality Posted November 23, 2011 Posted November 23, 2011 i know i shouldn't post this but.... :laugh::laugh:
SincereOnlineGuy Posted November 23, 2011 Posted November 23, 2011 (edited) Your all pigs. Let me just hope the 14yo isn't home schooled as well. Aside from that, you don't get anywhere by disputing the laws as they read in the present. Your job is to adhere to current laws for the country in which you are a resident. The uneducated responses of ShatteredReality surely aren't helping this post. Why bother making up something like this: ""In the United States, however, it's against the law to have a greater than 2yr age gap for minors."" ... and the word "pedophile" does NOT, truly, describe the criminal in this equation. At any rate, IF this family is in the U.S., the male involved is a criminal without any question. The mom is very likely a criminal too given that she has full knowledge of the crime being committed under her roof, and that she is responsible for the minor, at least until she marries her off. If one does not like the laws as they stand at present, then the only sensible action is to go through proper channels to change those laws (not violate them and then make dumb statements beginning with {You would think...} ) In answer to the vague question: "Can a 14yo get married?" SOME states, and many countries allow marriage at 14 with parental consent. Check your local laws. Or, the brief, equally vague answer: "... yes" Edited November 23, 2011 by SincereOnlineGuy
ShatteredReality Posted November 23, 2011 Posted November 23, 2011 (edited) Let me just hope the 14yo isn't home schooled as well. Aside from that, you don't get anywhere by disputing the laws as they read in the present. Your job is to adhere to current laws for the country in which you are a resident. The uneducated responses of ShatteredReality surely aren't helping this post. Why bother making up something like this: ""In the United States, however, it's against the law to have a greater than 2yr age gap for minors."" ... and the word "pedophile" does NOT, truly, describe the criminal in this equation. At any rate, IF this family is in the U.S., the male involved is a criminal without any question. The mom is very likely a criminal too given that she has full knowledge of the crime being committed under her roof, and that she is responsible for the minor, at least until she marries her off. If one does not like the laws as they stand at present, then the only sensible action is to go through proper channels to change those laws (not violate them and then make dumb statements beginning with {You would think...} ) In answer to the vague question: "Can a 14yo get married?" SOME states, and many countries allow marriage at 14 with parental consent. Check your local laws. Or, the brief, equally vague answer: "... yes" Hmm...maybe I am not "up" with the current laws. When I was in highschool - at the at of 16 I had a friend who was dating an 18yo. I was in a class called "You and the Law" and we used her relationship as an example - while the boy she dated was legally an adult, should they engage in sexual relations, even though she was a minor, it wasn't illegal because there wasn't a greater than 2yr age gap from minor to legal adult. So, likely the laws have changed on that by now, but it's remained a fair "guideline" for what seems to be accepted - at least in the city I live in. The highschools here still won't let anybody bring a person more than 2yrs older to their dances/proms - age cap being 20 if the student is 18. (Yes, I'm aware 18 is an adult. It's just in keeping with regulations and setting an example for the minors. Here the age of consent for sex is still 18. Other states I know it's as low as 16) And as for saying the grown man sleeping with the child isn't a pedophile? Well I suppose that simply depends on your definition of child vs adult. If you believe a 12-14yo girl isn't a child then I guess you would not believe the adult sleeping with her to be a pedophile. No need to be slinging insults and degredation, friend, this is more than likely a troll post anyway - but hey if it made you feel better to insult me then I say go for it Whatever blows your hair back buddy. Edited November 23, 2011 by ShatteredReality
SincereOnlineGuy Posted November 25, 2011 Posted November 25, 2011 Firstly, YOUR age didn't matter at all when it was your "friend" possibly having sex with the 18yo. Secondly, where I live and in many states any 16yo can go out and bang any adult anywhere provided the adult is not in a supervisory position, and their sexual union is perfectly legal. SO, with that in mind, it can not be accurate to say: ""In the United States, however, it's against the law to have a greater than 2yr age gap for minors."" The term pedophile is mostly a reference to someone who goes after "pre-pubescent" children. A screwed-up young adult of 21 who is having sex with a random 14yo is indeed a criminal in most of North America, but when you water-down the term "pedophile" like that, some of the alarm that comes with the term is lost. And there are always going to be cases of otherwise decent males and females, just a tiny bit further apart than legal range (be that 2, 3, or 5 years), where the older person is by definition a criminal IF they have sex, but who is NOT somebody who will live a lifetime as an apparent threat to pre-pubescent children (**unless all too eager people quickly label them inappropriately). I'll even go so far as to guess that SOME of those persons in relationships which just don't fall within legal range, might actually wait to have sex until they are legal. Such people certainly don't need the scorn of their neighbors for their entire future just because somebody thought they were sexually active with one another, and inappropriately branded one a "pedophile".
yello243 Posted November 25, 2011 Posted November 25, 2011 Relationships take a lot from a person, if she is just 14 that means she is no where near finishing up high school, and in a marriage at the age of 14 it is likely it will interfere with her studies aren't you concerned about that? When i was 14 the last thing on my mind was sex. I guess kids now a days are really growing up fast too fast for their age. She is a teenager she may be mature, but bottom line she is still a teenager. I understand that you can't tell her what to do because regardless they will find a loophole to be with each other with or without your consent. Personally she is still young it does not matter how mature she is, she is only 14 and was having sex when she was 12 that is a baby to me am sorry. There is no way i find this acceptable for a 14 yr old, it is really difficult to side with you on this, as a parent i would not allow it. And a 21 yr old guy still does not know what the heck they want. It is up to you but she should at least finish high school at LEAST.
DaisyLeigh Posted November 27, 2011 Posted November 27, 2011 something seriously wrong here if this isn't a troll...unless poster is from west virginia or kentucky. I beg your pardon? I am a PROUD Kentucky native, and I assure you that most of us are educated, hard-working, decent human beings. We actually wear shoes, don't screw our brothers or sisters, and do NOT marry at 14. I agree with a PP. What kind of 21 year old man actually wants a 14 year old child? And for that matter, what kind of PARENT allows such a thing?
donaldpeter58 Posted November 29, 2011 Posted November 29, 2011 If they are old enough and responsible enough to be married and have sex, then they are old enough and responsible enough to be married and have sex and pay their own bills and provide their own housing and cook their own meals and wash their own clothes.
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