Elizabeth Southerns Posted November 8, 2011 Share Posted November 8, 2011 Those in the UK will be familiar with this story which involves the dumped BW sneaking into the home the OW shared with the MM and their (OW & MM's) child, and stealing the child's kitten. The BW - on the dole - claimed to be dropping mail off for the wealthy MM, but snuck into the house to see what she could steal to use against him in the divorce. She was captured on CCTV trespassing on the property and stealing the kitten, but claimed to have no memory of it. She was, nonetheless, found guilty because of the compelling evidence against her. Glenn Close boiling the family bunny was fiction. This woman was real. Perhaps there should be more warnings in the popular media saying, "Lock up your pets, and your kids' pets, OWs - if the BW can't get the MM back, there's no telling how low she might stoop for revenge..." Link to post Share on other sites
thomasb Posted November 8, 2011 Share Posted November 8, 2011 Weel, this makes stealing a kitten seem pretty tame doesn't it... http://www.thestar.com/news/crime/article/922274--mother-sentenced-to-life-in-prison-for-murdering-her-own-child Link to post Share on other sites
carhill Posted November 8, 2011 Share Posted November 8, 2011 Rich old fart trades in wife for 36yo (at the time of 'beginning' apparently 26yo) mistress and lives the arrangement openly, complete with child. It's no wonder he's a politician too. Christ.... They couldn't make this stuff up. Link to post Share on other sites
Owl Posted November 8, 2011 Share Posted November 8, 2011 This proves that any corner of the triangle COULD be a whackdoodle. In this case...the BW went whackdoodle...either pre-existing or as a result of the stress she was put under as a result of the whole situation. Other cases...we've seen that OW or MM or anyone could be driven nutz by the affair situation. Link to post Share on other sites
Quiet Storm Posted November 8, 2011 Share Posted November 8, 2011 I think affairs, in general, can result in all sorts of crazy behavior from all sides. Not just stealing kittens, but actual homicide. Betty Broderick is just one murdering BW I can think of. Many BH's have murdered OM, and have even been aquitted by using the "temporary insanity/crime of passion" defense. Many people have underlying emotional issues. These issues can often stay beneath the surface, but in times of crisis or trauma...the craziness is "activated". Since 10% of the population is personality disordered, and even more have other psychological issues...it is not very smart to become involved in an affair. So many people are already unstable, and when you add betrayal into the mix...it's a recipe for disaster. There are so many possible scenarios for craziness that have played out in real life. I often fear for the OW that end up pregnant. I think that situation is very dangerous for the OW and I believe one of the most common homicides in the triangle. Here is a recent case: http://www.truecrimereport.com/2011/03/david_rapoport_kills_pregnant.php Other recent murder cases involving infidelity: http://www.foxnews.com/us/2011/08/20/police-accused-new-jersey-man-claimed-bias-in-wifes-killing/ http://www.nypost.com/p/news/local/boyfriend_kills_after_walking_men_jQLBCIjVlgFmjtMMQC1kGL http://www.pearlswindow.com/2010/11/man-kills-mistress-burns-baby-alive-to.html http://www.suntimes.com/6507688-460/police-ex-cop-had-son-cohort-kill-mistress-in-river-forest.html http://www.chron.com/news/houston-texas/article/Mistress-says-she-plotted-to-kill-lover-s-wife-2246487.php http://abcnews.go.com/GMA/story?id=125590&page=1 http://www.eurthisnthat.com/2011/06/13/wife-loses-it-over-husbands-infidelity-tries-to-kill-mistress-and-baby-video/ http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-504083_162-6119631-504083.html Link to post Share on other sites
Mme. Chaucer Posted November 8, 2011 Share Posted November 8, 2011 Regarding the original story - why is the wife "on the dole" while married to a millionaire? Link to post Share on other sites
carhill Posted November 8, 2011 Share Posted November 8, 2011 Regarding the original story - why is the wife "on the dole" while married to a millionaire? One scenario is that no divorce petition has been filed (with spousal maintenance) and the man refuses to support his wife and her 'revenge' is to live on public assistance. If she was a 'housewife' prior to him trading her in on a younger model, excellent chance of such a scenario occurring. Link to post Share on other sites
scatterd Posted November 8, 2011 Share Posted November 8, 2011 I know a person that caught his wife in bed with her OM.The H killed the man with his bare hands and got off on self diffence.How he got off I dont know but it shows you dont know who you could be dealing with. Link to post Share on other sites
Mme. Chaucer Posted November 8, 2011 Share Posted November 8, 2011 One scenario is that no divorce petition has been filed (with spousal maintenance) and the man refuses to support his wife and her 'revenge' is to live on public assistance. If she was a 'housewife' prior to him trading her in on a younger model, excellent chance of such a scenario occurring. Yikes. What a mess. Link to post Share on other sites
donnamaybe Posted November 8, 2011 Share Posted November 8, 2011 Weel, this makes stealing a kitten seem pretty tame doesn't it... http://www.thestar.com/news/crime/article/922274--mother-sentenced-to-life-in-prison-for-murdering-her-own-child Now THERE'S some ugly behavior by an OW if I ever saw any! Chilling, really. And very VERY sad. Link to post Share on other sites
donnamaybe Posted November 8, 2011 Share Posted November 8, 2011 I've also seen another form of "bunny boiling" wherein an AP will make a disgusting, truly psychotic blog on the web for many to read about the BS. A pathetic, passive-aggressive type of bunny boiling, but it takes all kinds I guess. Link to post Share on other sites
Got it Posted November 8, 2011 Share Posted November 8, 2011 I've also seen another form of "bunny boiling" wherein an AP will make a disgusting, truly psychotic blog on the web for many to read about the BS. A pathetic, passive-aggressive type of bunny boiling, but it takes all kinds I guess. I think the need to denounce anyone over the world wide web is pretty pedantic. Link to post Share on other sites
whichwayisup Posted November 8, 2011 Share Posted November 8, 2011 Those in the UK will be familiar with this story which involves the dumped BW sneaking into the home the OW shared with the MM and their (OW & MM's) child, and stealing the child's kitten. The BW - on the dole - claimed to be dropping mail off for the wealthy MM, but snuck into the house to see what she could steal to use against him in the divorce. She was captured on CCTV trespassing on the property and stealing the kitten, but claimed to have no memory of it. She was, nonetheless, found guilty because of the compelling evidence against her. Glenn Close boiling the family bunny was fiction. This woman was real. Perhaps there should be more warnings in the popular media saying, "Lock up your pets, and your kids' pets, OWs - if the BW can't get the MM back, there's no telling how low she might stoop for revenge..." You looking to stir stuff up on here it seems. The above bolded wasn't really necessary. Affairs can bring out worst in people, of all sides. OW/OM, BS's and MM/MW are ALL capable of doing out of the norm things when pushed past their emotional limit. Link to post Share on other sites
LucreziaBorgia Posted November 8, 2011 Share Posted November 8, 2011 The worst posts I ever saw in my years here were the ones from an OW that I responded to and got infractions for. It was just too much, and I took the bait. I don't know if the posts even exist and I won't link to them at any rate if they do, but this person was writing about how she was going to 'win' her MM from his W, whom this OW referred to as having a 'barren scarred uterus from too many abortions', how she was fat, dumpy, old, psychotic, etc. and so on. She went on to post about how she was planning on tricking the MM into getting her pregnant by lying about birth control and begging him to come inside of her. Eventually she posted a 'ka-ching, I'm pregnant' thread and then (under a different screen name) went on to tell everyone how she was going to have nannies raise the child and then get rid of it at first opportunity by sending it off to boarding school, as she didn't want children at all - she just wanted to trap (and she used that term) the MM so that she could 'win' him from his W. The last heard, she was thrown down an escalator by the MM's W and would eventually post here and there about how it is best not to trust or get involved with a MM. Then.. nothing. Troll? Actual sociopath? Could be either, could be neither. Regardless.. It was so blatant and ugly that even I was grossed out and angered by it and I had done more than my fair share of being OW/philanderer in my past. Point being: anyone who wants something bad enough and is scorned, particularly when it comes to matters of the heart - has the potential to 'boil bunnies' in thought, if not action. There are no 'bad' or 'good' guys in these situations when you have people from all sides who empathize/sympathize with one side or other. Link to post Share on other sites
donnamaybe Posted November 8, 2011 Share Posted November 8, 2011 Hmmm.... This story was already posts on LS over a year ago. Is it okay to link to that thread? Quite a coincidence involved also. Or maybe not. Funny how this appears to be the only story someone can find about this type of situation. Link to post Share on other sites
frozensprouts Posted November 8, 2011 Share Posted November 8, 2011 i think something that needs to be remembered is that when someone gets involved with a married person, you also, in essence, get "involved" with their spouse, children , family, etc. Any one ( or more) may take exception to your actions, and may let you know it, in ways that are not pleasant. ********************please note: this is not to say that i think it's okay to do anything illegal to "the other man/woman", or to harass them, but I can understand how it happens************************* it works both ways too. there are other /men women out there who harass and do illegal things to the spouse of the person they were involved with. I suppose it goes to show that an awful lot of people can, if put under stress, react in ways that are rather disturbing. Link to post Share on other sites
spice4life Posted November 8, 2011 Share Posted November 8, 2011 This thread really has no relevance in this forum. This suppose to be a place people come to looking for guidance and support if they find themselves involved with someone who is attached to someone else. It's not really a place to say who is better than who. People end up in affairs, that is a reality. Isn't it better to help them try and figure out a way to get out of it? Most here are dealing with the fallout of a painful situation regardless how you personally feel about affairs. It does no good to bash anyone, OW BS or otherwise because it detracts from the real issue, which is why they ended up in it in the first place. C'mon, can't people just take off their BS/OW hating hats and discuss the individual person's issue? This forum has helped a lot of people navigate themselves out of a difficult situation...isn't that better than bashing? Link to post Share on other sites
whichwayisup Posted November 8, 2011 Share Posted November 8, 2011 This thread really has no relevance in this forum. This suppose to be a place people come to looking for guidance and support if they find themselves involved with someone who is attached to someone else. It's not really a place to say who is better than who. People end up in affairs, that is a reality. Isn't it better to help them try and figure out a way to get out of it? Most here are dealing with the fallout of a painful situation regardless how you personally feel about affairs. It does no good to bash anyone, OW BS or otherwise because it detracts from the real issue, which is why they ended up in it in the first place. C'mon, can't people just take off their BS/OW hating hats and discuss the individual person's issue? This forum has helped a lot of people navigate themselves out of a difficult situation...isn't that better than bashing? For well over a month now things have finally calmed down in this section and there's been no drama or fighting.. Threads like these, pin OW against BS intentionally to cause strife. It's pointless. Yes, I know there is 'discussion' that goes on, but starting a thread like this, the title and seemed to be intent (I could be wrong but it's kind of how things were worded) to cause and pin people against eachother. Link to post Share on other sites
Spark1111 Posted November 8, 2011 Share Posted November 8, 2011 No time to read the whole thread, BUT She stole a kitten? That's it? Why, that's just unthinkable! Link to post Share on other sites
Spark1111 Posted November 8, 2011 Share Posted November 8, 2011 Wait, she steals a kitten and now the whole world KNOWS he has had an 11-year relationship (was she a child when they met?) with his OW that resulted in a child and he also loaned the mistress 200,000 smackeroos? That is absolutely brilliant. I wish I had thought of it. Kitten stealing results in the public embarrassment of WS, his OW and a good divorce attorney who will not try to recoup all that money. Just brilliant! Link to post Share on other sites
Author Elizabeth Southerns Posted November 8, 2011 Author Share Posted November 8, 2011 Isn't it better to help them try and figure out a way to get out of it? Not everybody in an A is looking for support to leave it. Some are looking for support to stay in it. I'd rather support people where they are, with what they want, rather than pushing my own agenda onto them because I think I know what's best for them. But that's just me. Others have a different idea of what constitutes "support". Link to post Share on other sites
donnamaybe Posted November 8, 2011 Share Posted November 8, 2011 Well, the upside is that folks who have read this thread have probably reached a definitive conclusion regarding who the real bunny boiler is. Link to post Share on other sites
Author Elizabeth Southerns Posted November 8, 2011 Author Share Posted November 8, 2011 Funny how this appears to be the only story someone can find about this type of situation. Seems some people are easily fooled by "appearances". The story is currently in the news because the criminal has just been sentenced. It's not an old story but a current one. Link to post Share on other sites
whichwayisup Posted November 8, 2011 Share Posted November 8, 2011 Not everybody in an A is looking for support to leave it. Some are looking for support to stay in it. I'd rather support people where they are, with what they want, rather than pushing my own agenda onto them because I think I know what's best for them. But that's just me. Others have a different idea of what constitutes "support". If two people are 'happy' in an A, are treated well and accepted the A for what it is, then that's one thing. BUT, the majority of OW who post here are NOT happy in their affairs, enough to continue on that path. When a MM treats his OW like shi.t, lies to her, plays both sides, selfishly not malciously, sorry ES, MOST on here are NOT going to support something that is self damaging and unhealthy, causing more pain and heartache. Like a long time poster who isn't here anymore, was totally happy in her affairs and she took time to explain why, respectfully. Over time we all got to know her (Lizzie) and adore her, reguardless of her choices. Every single person has a right to express their advice and opinion they way the want to and not be accused of having an agenda. Link to post Share on other sites
Author Elizabeth Southerns Posted November 8, 2011 Author Share Posted November 8, 2011 Every single person has a right to express their advice and opinion they way the want to and not be accused of having an agenda. Exactly! Link to post Share on other sites
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