danmorisson Posted November 7, 2011 Posted November 7, 2011 Shoot me down for speaking the truth. No but seriously, why do we live in denial about these things? Only ugly people can date ugly people because that's all they can get.
ShannonMI Posted November 8, 2011 Posted November 8, 2011 Shoot me down for speaking the truth. No but seriously, why do we live in denial about these things? Only ugly people can date ugly people because that's all they can get. Yes it's true. Is that what you wanted to hear? Looks are important, but other qualities are as well. I'd like a hot man with a personality and a sense of humor. I'm still looking
Author danmorisson Posted November 8, 2011 Author Posted November 8, 2011 Well obviously I'm talk about those pretty ones who say they have dated unattractive looking people. Rubbish! If you were pretty, if you could have almost anyone out there, then why the heck would you choose an ugly looking person?
The Outlaw Posted November 8, 2011 Posted November 8, 2011 Yeah, it's true. Most unfortunate but it is. But yet, while they are important, they don't speak for who a person is. You can have all the looks in the world, and have the worst personality by the same token. Why would you want someone who is, say, extremely attractive but doesn't have a personality?
ShannonMI Posted November 8, 2011 Posted November 8, 2011 Well obviously I'm talk about those pretty ones who say they have dated unattractive looking people. Rubbish! If you were pretty, if you could have almost anyone out there, then why the heck would you choose an ugly looking person? You're right. I've never dated an "ugly" person per say, but I have dated some that aren't particularly HOT. There was only one guy looking back that I say....what the f*ck was I thinking? Because he was rather unfortunate looking AND an @sshole. So why I dated him, I have no idea.
ShannonMI Posted November 8, 2011 Posted November 8, 2011 Yeah, it's true. Most unfortunate but it is. But yet, while they are important, they don't speak for who a person is. You can have all the looks in the world, and have the worst personality by the same token. Why would you want someone who is, say, extremely attractive but doesn't have a personality? Most people want both. An attractive person and one that has a good personality. A sense of humor is very, very important too. At least for me
jobaba Posted November 8, 2011 Posted November 8, 2011 Shoot me down for speaking the truth. No but seriously, why do we live in denial about these things? Only ugly people can date ugly people because that's all they can get. You only look at them as ugly people because you're a d@uchebag. I look at them as plain people. And if they're great people, they're that much more attractive to me. And it's also not true, because I'm not the greatest looking guy and the girls I've dated (not many) have all been at least decent. I know because I've had to deal with d@uchebags hitting on them when I've been out with them. Yea, most people think like you but not all do...
Author danmorisson Posted November 8, 2011 Author Posted November 8, 2011 I don't think personality matters that much to most people. So I think you'd be pretty much ok --just as long as you don't show signs of being a potential serial killer, rapist or anything like that.
ShannonMI Posted November 8, 2011 Posted November 8, 2011 I don't think personality matters that much to most people. So I think you'd be pretty much ok --just as long as you don't show signs of being a potential serial killer, rapist or anything like that. Ummm personality does matter. Good looks only go so far and then you are bored. And someone that's a drip and has zero sense of humor isn't going to keep you happy either.
Author danmorisson Posted November 8, 2011 Author Posted November 8, 2011 That's ok then. As long as you admit that looks matter. You get nothing but a whole buch of fantasy talks on other sites. You can be ugly and have a great personality, no attractive person would even look at you. If it was all about personality (which people on other sites try to say) then you'd see attractive people dating ugly people all the time. But you don't see that, you only see pretty people dating pretty people and ugly people dating ugly people.
mike111 Posted November 8, 2011 Posted November 8, 2011 Shoot me down for speaking the truth. No but seriously, why do we live in denial about these things? Only ugly people can date ugly people because that's all they can get. I have a huge crush on a woman who maybe other men don't think is attractive. Technically, she is not. She just has this certain way about her. The way she moves, the way she smiles, her self-confidence. Damn.........she's a turn on to me. I keep wondering what it would be like to be with her, to hang out, to spend time with. Anyway, that was a random thought!
ShannonMI Posted November 8, 2011 Posted November 8, 2011 That's ok then. As long as you admit that looks matter. You get nothing but a whole buch of fantasy talks on other sites. You can be ugly and have a great personality, no attractive person would even look at you. If it was all about personality (which people on other sites try to say) then you'd see attractive people dating ugly people all the time. But you don't see that, you only see pretty people dating pretty people and ugly people dating ugly people. No looks matter for sure. Who said they didn't? What ALSO matters in personality and sense of humor.
Author danmorisson Posted November 8, 2011 Author Posted November 8, 2011 I have a huge crush on a woman who maybe other men don't think is attractive. Technically, she is not. She just has this certain way about her. The way she moves, the way she smiles, her self-confidence. Damn.........she's a turn on to me. I keep wondering what it would be like to be with her, to hang out, to spend time with. Anyway, that was a random thought! But you're a guy. Don't take this the wrong way or nothing but men are more diverse in what they can find attractive. You're right, all men in general can find not so attractive (even outright ugly women) attractive because of the way she moves etc. Women are more black & white (simple) when it comes to attraction. I just didn't want to cause any arguments.
USMCHokie Posted November 8, 2011 Posted November 8, 2011 But you're a guy. Don't take this the wrong way or nothing but men are more diverse in what they can find attractive. You're right, all men in general can find not so attractive (even outright ugly women) attractive because of the way she moves etc. Women are more black & white (simple) when it comes to attraction. I just didn't want to cause any arguments. I'm actually going to have to disagree with you here...women have a far greater range of who they find attractive... Just try this little experiment...you ask 100 guys what their ideal women would be, and chances are, the ideal woman would be very similar for all of them...if you ask 100 women the same question, you'll likely get a ton more variance.
jobaba Posted November 8, 2011 Posted November 8, 2011 I'm actually going to have to disagree with you here...women have a far greater range of who they find attractive... Just try this little experiment...you ask 100 guys what their ideal women would be, and chances are, the ideal woman would be very similar for all of them...if you ask 100 women the same question, you'll likely get a ton more variance. Let's try it!
RiverRunning Posted November 8, 2011 Posted November 8, 2011 Hokie's got it right. A man may sleep with an 'ugly' woman but it's unlikely he'll have a relationship with her. Women are more likely to do both. While the typical Hollywood guy is -nice-, it's not my ideal. How many men would say that the Hollywood woman isn't their ideal? If you're an overweight woman too, you can absolutely forget being found attractive. I'm not even saying 100+ pounds overweight. I mean to any degree overweight. This is still pretty shocking to me considering how many fat people there are in the U.S. now, but if you're a woman and you're in that shape...yikes, better bail out now. I have had a few men over the years, including total strangers, act a little flirty with me. I've dated two men. Two other guys showed interest. Besides my current partner, all were complete losers. No ambition, far less intelligent than I am (not that I'm a genius, but some of these guys acted like they had the intelligence of a third grader), stalkerish/creepy personalities, etc. what a self-esteem boost! It's very hard to get a quality guy when you're overweight. Usually you get the bottom of the barrel...guys who go for the low-hanging fruit because they know you'll be an easy catch. And every guy I've dated has treated me badly either throughout the duration of the relationship or through most of it. I really do think it's out of a sense of entitlement - after a while they felt entitled to a 'thin one' and started treating me badly because of it. i wish I had a more optimistic view but dating for thin women, at least according to what many of them post here, is a cake walk. It's sort of like you're expected to be immediately grateful and to just go for it anytime a guy shows interest when you're heavy. But like I said, unless the guy has a fat fetish, I think most of the time they eventually start treating you badly because they feel like they settled. It doesn't matter if you're a 'pretty' fat girl or an 'ugly' fat girl - I really think most men just see 'thin' or 'fat' and it's automatically decided then and there whether you're attractive or not. Even if the guy himself is 400 pounds. Before the "then lose weight" police come, I'm trying. I've lost 40 pounds but I'm having a great deal of difficulty losing more, despite changing my diet/work-outs/strength-training schedule/etc. I am on birth control and I do think it's impacted it...it's been far more difficult losing weight than it used to be. So in the meantime, while you're stuck in a heavy body, you're left feeling like crap navigating what's out there. I think men care much, much more about looks than women do.
mike111 Posted November 8, 2011 Posted November 8, 2011 You're right, all men in general can find not so attractive (even outright ugly women) attractive because of the way she moves etc. Right. First appearances are everything, so it is said. But if one gets down and looks a little further, they're might be something more there. That was my point. mike
USMCHokie Posted November 8, 2011 Posted November 8, 2011 Please save this women are more lenient to the less attractive bull****. I think its been proven on these boards enough that it is not true. I said that women have a greater range of what they DO find attractive. There's a subtle but important distinction there. Both sexes struggle to date the less physically fortunate . I wouldn't disagree with this.
Author danmorisson Posted November 8, 2011 Author Posted November 8, 2011 Please save this women are more lenient to the less attractive bull****. I think its been proven on these boards enough that it is not true. Both sexes struggle to date the less physically fortunate . That's all I'm trying to say. But I think men in general are a little more diverse though. For example, more men than you think find certain types of confident fat women insanely sexy but keep it to themselves. But in saying that, it's still based on looks though. But women are a little bit more linear when it comes to looks.
Shontay Posted November 8, 2011 Posted November 8, 2011 I agree looks can get you far but there is so much more thats important esp..when you want a real relationship.
Author danmorisson Posted November 8, 2011 Author Posted November 8, 2011 I said that women have a greater range of what they DO find attractive. There's a subtle but important distinction there. I wouldn't disagree with this. You're not being honest there. It's this 'I have to side with women' mentality again. I'm not trying to make men out to be better or anything like that. It's just fact that the male mind is more diverse, and not just when it comes to dating either. Women are more simple.
USMCHokie Posted November 8, 2011 Posted November 8, 2011 You're not being honest there. It's this 'I have to side with women' mentality again. I'm not trying to make men out to be better or anything like that. It's just fact that the male mind is more diverse, and not just when it comes to dating either. Women are more simple. Hmmm, you must be an old member under a new name to make that assessment about me... Nevertheless, men will always think women have it easier while women will always think men have it easier simply because we can only understand and empathize with our own experiences.
Author danmorisson Posted November 8, 2011 Author Posted November 8, 2011 Yes my own experience + science to back me up. How women go about things is rather straightforward in comparison to men. Men add a bit of randomness --a bit of bumps here and there along the way. It's kind of like how women are just as smart as men but look all around you... men still dominate because of our 'more' diverse minds
jobaba Posted November 8, 2011 Posted November 8, 2011 Hmmm, you must be an old member under a new name to make that assessment about me... Nevertheless, men will always think women have it easier while women will always think men have it easier simply because we can only understand and empathize with our own experiences. Easier to what? Most women I know would not hesitate to admit it is a lot easier for a woman to get dates and get laid than a man of equal attractiveness. I don't think there's any question about that. Getting married is a different story. That takes two.
Imageiko Posted November 8, 2011 Posted November 8, 2011 It's important but really only to a certain extent. Looks can get you in the door easier but nobody is going to stick around unless you have a personality and other good things going for you ie career, interests, hobbies etc.
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