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I look at these threads and think back to my problems with dating. I still have issues with dating but I look at them with a different perspective. When it comes to dating or with anything in life there can be challenges. I see a lot of people just give up because all men or women are this. You see the same generalizations on both sides. Men and women on some level suffer the same challenges in dating we all want to appreciated more than just a superficial level. I know my challenges were that I was a nerd, introverted, lacked a lot of social skills, and was a "nice" guy. I say nice guy that way because honestly most nice guys are manipulative and immature. Think about you are nice because you want it to benefit you and because you attempted to manipulate you opened yourself up to manipulation and got nothing. I know because I was like this. There was a point where I was blaming everyone but the real person that was responsible me. After meeting some cold blooded players they gave me new perspective on dating. I am not to that degree they are on but it got me on a path to where I took a long hard look at myself and saw what I contributed to my own problems. Therapy also helped but what helped more was when I got off my ass and got my hand off my d**k (to the porn people) to go and be social. The best teacher is experience and the game is to be sold and not told. You can learn some things by someone teaching you but the best thing is getting out here and figuring out how to overcome why you have trouble with dating

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i hope i make some sort of sense. i type this and looking back didnt really think it through

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