Woggle Posted November 3, 2011 Posted November 3, 2011 You can best believe she will be having flings left and right. I don't know if that is a reason for you do it but it is very likely she won't be faithful in Europe.
ShannonMI Posted November 3, 2011 Posted November 3, 2011 Ah well that explains it then. You almost had me raise an eyebrow there! Take us to you leader, Sha ' non! For some odd reason I felt like saying that. Yeah I misread it. This chick is getting some dick on the side for sure. No woman would agree to break up with a guy for such a short time when she's about to marry him. These two should not get married. They are obviously not ready.
ShannonMI Posted November 3, 2011 Posted November 3, 2011 You can best believe she will be having flings left and right. I don't know if that is a reason for you do it but it is very likely she won't be faithful in Europe. Those European men are f*cking HOT!!!! I'd have a fling or two myself. Not if I was getting married though.
ffw Posted November 3, 2011 Posted November 3, 2011 My guess is that she's ok with the temporary split because she'd like to get her groove on as well with someone else. What woman is ok with splitting up with the man she's about to marry for only 6 weeks? That's the most absurd thing I've ever heard. She's getting herself some strange. Guaranteed. Good point Shannon. Had to read the post to get a clear picture. According to OP, he initiated the split & she accepted it. On the other hand, if she had a fling, is she going to tell the OP about it? The whole thing sounds a bit absurd.
ShannonMI Posted November 4, 2011 Posted November 4, 2011 Good point Shannon. Had to read the post to get a clear picture. According to OP, he initiated the split & she accepted it. On the other hand, if she had a fling, is she going to tell the OP about it? The whole thing sounds a bit absurd. And they are getting married? Hahahahahaha what a joke:lmao: If being apart for 6 weeks is enough for them to split, how are they going to handle the other struggles of married life? So ridiculous. DON'T GET MARRIED OP!!!! You are far from ready.
GG3 Posted November 4, 2011 Posted November 4, 2011 Is this a joke? The answer is: YES!! IT WOULD BE CHEATING!! You are just manipulating a situation to cheat! Sounds like you aren't ready to be married!!!
Metis Posted November 4, 2011 Posted November 4, 2011 You can best believe she will be having flings left and right. I don't know if that is a reason for you do it but it is very likely she won't be faithful in Europe. Spoken like a typical cheating husband.
Woggle Posted November 4, 2011 Posted November 4, 2011 Spoken like a typical cheating husband. I have never cheated on a woman in my life but I wasn't born yesterday.
Mme. Chaucer Posted November 4, 2011 Posted November 4, 2011 I'm sorry, but this story is so convoluted and inconsistant that I have to think either you have no idea what is going on in your own life, or, you just made it up. Hi, Allow me to introduce myself. Im a 29 year old male engaged to a wonderful 30 year old women. Mainly we have a fantastic relationship. The last few months we have had our troubles and wobbles but have tried to stay strong. So … you are engaged, and trying to "stay strong." I'm with you. I suggested we split up for this duration. Not a "break" but split up. Oh. So, you are split up. You are not engaged, then? I love her and have never or would I ever cheat. But I am dying to quite simply have a fling. You would never cheat? But you are dying to cheat? Or maybe it's not technically cheating? I feel as though I need to get it out of my system and realise how silly I would be to let such a good thing slip through my fingers. Is the "good thing" your fiance (or ex fiance, depending), or the chance to "get it out of your system"? After all I am single, even if it is only for 6 weeks. But … you just got finished telling us you are ENGAGED. Just in case this is a real life situation - which I'm finding hard to believe - here is my great advice. Make up your mind. You are engaged / in a committed relationship, OR you are completely single. There is no such thing as being engaged but being single for 6 weeks. Certainly couples have made arrangements that look like that - but both people were involved in making them. Of course, such a situation would not be perceived as being "SPLIT UP," though. It would be a break, or an "open" relationship. I kind of hope that if this is a real life situation, you are single and NOT on the verge of marrying anybody. You sound like a pretty poor choice for a husband to me. Sorry.
Metis Posted November 4, 2011 Posted November 4, 2011 I have never cheated on a woman in my life but I wasn't born yesterday. Oh please. You made serious accusations of infidelity against a woman you don't even know and that the OP has only said positive things about. (In fact, even more egregiously, you interpreted the OP's statement that he wants to sleep around while his fiance is out of town as "proof" that his fiance will cheat on him with multiple men, women, donkeys and maybe a quagga or two -- a baseless, filthy and ridiculous accusation if I ever saw one.) Then you used those accusations as a basis for encouraging him to cheat as a way to pay her back for her non-existent but presumed cheating. That is clearly a rationalization used by a man looking for an excuse to cheat on his wife. If "I wasn't born yesterday" is proof that every woman cheats on her husband, then clearly you believe that your wife is cheating on you. And if this hypothetical cheating is justification for the man to cheat in actual reality, it follows that you cheat on your wife, regardless of how she behaves towards you. This is especially consistent with a man who has the kinds of friends who are "loving and faithful" husbands with a lot of experience on getting action on the side whilst married as you so graciously told us yesterday. So spare me. I wasn't born yesterday either, and it's quite obvious what kind of a "husband" you make.
Woggle Posted November 4, 2011 Posted November 4, 2011 I really have never cheated on my life. Believe what you want but I have no reason to lie. I just know that all it takes is for some guy to smile at her and chances are she will cheat left and right. I read the threads on the infidelity board and I read plenty of stuff about cheating women on the internet so I am not naive and stupid. Do you honestly this she is going to be faithful in Europe?
Cypress25 Posted November 4, 2011 Posted November 4, 2011 Oh please. You made serious accusations of infidelity against a woman you don't even know and that the OP has only said positive things about. (In fact, even more egregiously, you interpreted the OP's statement that he wants to sleep around while his fiance is out of town as "proof" that his fiance will cheat on him with multiple men, women, donkeys and maybe a quagga or two -- a baseless, filthy and ridiculous accusation if I ever saw one.) Then you used those accusations as a basis for encouraging him to cheat as a way to pay her back for her non-existent but presumed cheating. That is clearly a rationalization used by a man looking for an excuse to cheat on his wife. If "I wasn't born yesterday" is proof that every woman cheats on her husband, then clearly you believe that your wife is cheating on you. And if this hypothetical cheating is justification for the man to cheat in actual reality, it follows that you cheat on your wife, regardless of how she behaves towards you. This is especially consistent with a man who has the kinds of friends who are "loving and faithful" husbands with a lot of experience on getting action on the side whilst married as you so graciously told us yesterday. So spare me. I wasn't born yesterday either, and it's quite obvious what kind of a "husband" you make. OMG. That was beautiful. Couldn't have said it better myself.
carhill Posted November 4, 2011 Posted November 4, 2011 OP, if you want to have a fling, break your engagement, formally ending it, and then go do what you want as a single man. When you proposed to her and she accepted, you voluntarily bound yourself to her and she you in the vows of betrothal. If so betrothed and you have sex with another woman or do anything with another woman which would bring your betrothed distress, you have abrogated your commitment to her. If, however, she agrees to break the engagement (she keeps the ring since you initiated the break), then you are a free man and, should you and she get back together in the future, it would be with a clear conscience. She can explore whichever lovers cross her path and you the same. That's what you're signing on for. Good luck in your decision.
Woggle Posted November 4, 2011 Posted November 4, 2011 Also I bet if the genders were reversed the responses would be very different. You would probably tell her to do it and not let some man control her.
ffw Posted November 4, 2011 Posted November 4, 2011 No intention to divert the topic but want to ask this question. What's the difference between split up (as OP suggested) & breakup?
Cypress25 Posted November 4, 2011 Posted November 4, 2011 I just know that all it takes is for some guy to smile at her and chances are she will cheat left and right. I read the threads on the infidelity board and I read plenty of stuff about cheating women on the internet so I am not naive and stupid. Do you honestly this she is going to be faithful in Europe? Do you honestly think a woman can not go to Europe for a few weeks and remain faithful to her SO? Do you really think all it takes is a smile from a random European guy to make a woman throw her relationship out the window? What is wrong with you? Despite your paranoid beliefs, the vast majority of women do not cheat. The vast majority of people do not cheat, men included. People who cheat are actually in the minority. Maybe you hear a lot about them on Internet forums, but the people on Internet forums are not representative of the whole world. I don't know why you think women have no self-control or respect/loyalty/love for their partners, but it's not true. Any woman who would "cheat left and right" just because a foreign stranger smiled at her has serious emotional problems. I find it hard to believe such women even exist.
Metis Posted November 4, 2011 Posted November 4, 2011 Also I bet if the genders were reversed the responses would be very different. You would probably tell her to do it and not let some man control her. You bet wrong and as always, without any basis in fact. If the genders were reversed, I would tell the woman the exact same thing -- don't expect more of your partner than you are prepared to give, and don't pretend that a technicality makes it not-cheating. Also, at no point did anyone ever say that being faithful to one's husband or fiance constitutes letting a man control her. The issue of control is completely different. After all, one of the ways a man may control a woman is ordering her to sleep with his friends. So on the issue of commitment and fidelity, control is utterly irrelevant.
Woggle Posted November 4, 2011 Posted November 4, 2011 Yes I do believe that. Read that yahoo artiicle I posted in that other thread about female cheating. Just look at the threads on this board.
Cypress25 Posted November 4, 2011 Posted November 4, 2011 Also I bet if the genders were reversed the responses would be very different. You would probably tell her to do it and not let some man control her. I would never tell a woman to do that. I'm a woman, and I would never do that. Staying faithful to your SO is not a matter of control. It's not OK for anyone to cheat on their partner. Men and women have an equal responsibility to remain loyal in their relationships.
carhill Posted November 4, 2011 Posted November 4, 2011 No intention to divert the topic but want to ask this question. What's the difference between split up (as OP suggested) & breakup? The OP (and his fiance) would have to clarify that. My interpretation of 'split up' versus 'break up', put into marital terms, would be a separation with agreement of exclusivity pending reconciliation versus a separation with intent to divorce. With the former, sexual and emotional fidelity is agreed to continue; with the latter, not. However, I've seen very creative versions of this; in fact, such creativity (by a MW) got me into my first affair as an OM.
Cypress25 Posted November 4, 2011 Posted November 4, 2011 Yes I do believe that. Read that yahoo artiicle I posted in that other thread about female cheating. Just look at the threads on this board. I'll say it again: Maybe you hear a lot about them on Internet forums, but the people on Internet forums are not representative of the whole world. You need to get out more and interact with 3-dimensional people, instead of basing your world view on a handful of people on the Internet. When I was a senior in college, I spent a semester in Spain. I had a boyfriend back home at the time. In the 3.5 months that I spent in Europe, I did not cheat on him at all. I wasn't even tempted to cheat on him. Yes, there were a few Spanish guys who smiled at me and tried to flirt with me. No thanks, not interested. My program included about 150 other American college students, most of whom had an SO back home. No one cheated on anyone throughout the entire program. And that's not unusual. You, my friend, are paranoid. There's no justifying it.
Jono85 Posted November 4, 2011 Posted November 4, 2011 Also I bet if the genders were reversed the responses would be very different. You would probably tell her to do it and not let some man control her. i don't spend much time frequenting these boards, but just from a few of ur posts u sound entirely bitter and negative at women lol. it's obvious u've been cheated on, but get over it and move on. i've been cheated on too. so have millions of people. it doesn't mean everyone does it, it just means that unfortunately the woman u were with was a selfish deceitful bag of sh-t, like mine, but u need to move on. men do it as much if not more than women.
Metis Posted November 4, 2011 Posted November 4, 2011 Yes I do believe that. Read that yahoo artiicle I posted in that other thread about female cheating. Just look at the threads on this board. You believe that because some women cheat, every woman cheats. Your wife is a woman (I presume). Therefore, you believe that your wife cheats on you. You also believe that if a woman cheats (which is every woman, including your wife), the proper response by her husband is to cheat on her. That proves that you cheat on your wife. And every minute that you are not busy cheating on her, you spend here, going out of your way to slander women you don't know and poison people's relationships. I pity your wife. Her life must be a living hell. Good thing the first one escaped with her life. As for strangers smiling being enough to make a woman cheat: Pal, if I were you, I'd be more worried about spending every waking minute indulging my paranoia and hatred of women while my wife remains ... ahem ... neglected, if you know what I mean. One of the most basic preventive measures against having your spouse stray is, you know, giving them some lovin' on a regular basis. I suggest you get to it. Unless, of course, you enjoy prattling on how much you hate women more than you enjoy sex with someone who actually cares for you despite your Everest-sized flaws, which wouldn't surprise me.
Metis Posted November 4, 2011 Posted November 4, 2011 No one said EVERY woman cheats...that is just stupid...so you all going high and mighty on a retarded comment..is well...retarded....let me get all my panties in a bunch when a blind man will tell me he can see.... WhiteKnight: I agree with you on one thing: Woggle's comments are indeed retarded. He did, in any event, argue that every woman cheats. Specifically, he assured the OP that his fiance will cheat although the OP offered NO indication whatsoever that she would do something like that. In fact, the only thing the OP said about cheating is that HE wants to step out on his fiance. From there, Woggle argued that because "he wasn't born yesterday", that proves that the OP's fiance will cheat on him "left and right". That's saying pretty plainly that he believes every woman cheats. Including his wife, of course.
Woggle Posted November 4, 2011 Posted November 4, 2011 You believe that because some women cheat, every woman cheats. Your wife is a woman (I presume). Therefore, you believe that your wife cheats on you. You also believe that if a woman cheats (which is every woman, including your wife), the proper response by her husband is to cheat on her. That proves that you cheat on your wife. And every minute that you are not busy cheating on her, you spend here, going out of your way to slander women you don't know and poison people's relationships. I pity your wife. Her life must be a living hell. Good thing the first one escaped with her life. As for strangers smiling being enough to make a woman cheat: Pal, if I were you, I'd be more worried about spending every waking minute indulging my paranoia and hatred of women while my wife remains ... ahem ... neglected, if you know what I mean. One of the most basic preventive measures against having your spouse stray is, you know, giving them some lovin' on a regular basis. I suggest you get to it. Unless, of course, you enjoy prattling on how much you hate women more than you enjoy sex with someone who actually cares for you despite your Everest-sized flaws, which wouldn't surprise me. This does not prove that I cheat on my wife. Also my first one is currently in prison for about 7 years because of her violent behavior so I am lucky to escape with my life.
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