AHardDaysNight Posted November 2, 2011 Posted November 2, 2011 http://www.sodahead.com/living/do-girls-really-prefer-athletes/question-194238/ I will hold my thoughts until some people have read the comments and responded, but what do you think about the posts in this forum?
tman666 Posted November 2, 2011 Posted November 2, 2011 Unsurprisingly, the results are basically split evenly, indicating that preference of attraction is highly individual. Further, drawing conclusions from such a limited number of responses (not to mention very "young" sounding responses) might further diminish the meaning. What I would say, with confidence, is that the stereotypical athlete will tend to be more physically attractive by "traditional" measures such as lower body fat, higher amounts of muscle mass, better hormonal profiles, etc. When coupled by often higher than average social skills, attraction goes up even higher. A lot of the "No" responses also indicated a bias against athletes based on the stereotype that they are, on the whole, less intelligent and more full of themselves.
Author AHardDaysNight Posted November 2, 2011 Author Posted November 2, 2011 Okay, so logically it is a division of non-shallow and shallow women, those that are more ready to judge someone either positively or negatively based upon their physical appearance, or is more likely to be neutral and open in regards to who a person is, irregardless of their physical appearance?
fortyninethousand322 Posted November 2, 2011 Posted November 2, 2011 Dude, what do you mean by "athletes"? According to what you've posted it sounds like you're talking about guys who are in shape and muscular, regardless of whether they actually enjoy athletic competition. Considering that only a very small percentage of people in the U.S. are professional athletes, I'd wager most people after high school don't self identify as an "athlete" to the exclusion of other traits. For the record, I wish women went for athletic guys. Then, I wouldn't be single right now.
tman666 Posted November 2, 2011 Posted November 2, 2011 Based on the responses that I read on your link, I'd say it's all of the above. Some of those posts definitely indicated that large assumptions (some positive, some negative) on personality were made based solely on the fact that the rhetorical man in question is an athlete. Having been a "band geek", a computer nerd, AND an athlete throughout high school and college (sort of full spectrum on what we're talking about here), I can say that the people who make assumptions about you based on stereotypes are the ones that you learn, over time, to put the least amount of stock into their opinions. Quality people avoid making such assumptions, in my opinion.
azsinglegal Posted November 2, 2011 Posted November 2, 2011 Dude, what do you mean by "athletes"? According to what you've posted it sounds like you're talking about guys who are in shape and muscular, regardless of whether they actually enjoy athletic competition. Considering that only a very small percentage of people in the U.S. are professional athletes, I'd wager most people after high school don't self identify as an "athlete" to the exclusion of other traits. For the record, I wish women went for athletic guys. Then, I wouldn't be single right now. I love athletic guys. But I'm also athletic myself...maybe that's the difference?
fortyninethousand322 Posted November 2, 2011 Posted November 2, 2011 I love athletic guys. But I'm also athletic myself...maybe that's the difference? Maybe. I mean that is the one group of women I've never tried to ask out. But, at the same time I'm not a meat head either I am legitimately interested in intellectual or nerdy stuff too and I've always imagined that athletic women would be turned off by those things. Eh...maybe I over think things too much.
Mrlonelyone Posted November 2, 2011 Posted November 2, 2011 When I was young I preferred athletic men by far for a number of reasons. One their bodies were hot. Two they were so confident and secure in who they were that they did not feel my gender identity reduced their own masculine self image. They knew what they wanted and they went for it. That was attractive. Then I grew up.
Emilia Posted November 2, 2011 Posted November 2, 2011 Maybe. I mean that is the one group of women I've never tried to ask out. But, at the same time I'm not a meat head either I am legitimately interested in intellectual or nerdy stuff too and I've always imagined that athletic women would be turned off by those things. Eh...maybe I over think things too much. Yes you do. I only date fit men because I'm sporty myself but I also read books, keep up with current affairs and at the moment listening to a radio programme about the justice system in the UK :-)
cerridwen Posted November 2, 2011 Posted November 2, 2011 Some girls do... ...and I, sir, am such a girl. tman nails it in Post 2. Great social skills, a Can-Do attitude that leads to professional success, amazing bodies, healthy lifestyle, they're my preference all day every day. azsinglegal-up top!
carhill Posted November 2, 2011 Posted November 2, 2011 "I think girls/women go thru phases. Sometimes they want beef other times they want pork." I liked that comment. Most of the time they want dough
DepressedinDenver Posted November 2, 2011 Posted November 2, 2011 With the key word being prefer I would say most women do prefer athletic guys. Sure they will settle for other types but athletic dudes will still be their preference. I think my ex wife goes to show that you can be the most stable, hard working down to earth guy in the world but some women will still long for the good looking athletic type. Sadly.
grkBoy Posted November 2, 2011 Posted November 2, 2011 Frankly, I think most women are like men in that they're not attracted to unhealthy folk or obesity. I've seen some women who want athletes, others like on that site want "rock stars". Seen more women who just want a guy who takes care of himself, but isn't in the gym 4 hours every day and freaking out when he gains an ounce of fat. Just a guy who is balanced. He works out a few times a week, 1-2 hours at the most, doesn't eat junkfood all the time, and spends plenty of time with her. I just say men should try not to be fat, try to stay healthy, have good fashion sense, and be confident and interesting.
somedude81 Posted November 2, 2011 Posted November 2, 2011 ...and I, sir, am such a girl. tman nails it in Post 2. Great social skills, a Can-Do attitude that leads to professional success, amazing bodies, healthy lifestyle, they're my preference all day every day. azsinglegal-up top! Cerri, I almost want to be angry with you about this post but everything you said makes perfect sense. Who am I supposed to be mad at that I don't have an amazing body and most likely won't ever have one because of my genetics? I know I can't be mad at the women for liking what they do because that just leads to bitterness. And then I have this depression which isn't exactly giving me the motivation to go to the gym 4 days a week.
Author AHardDaysNight Posted November 2, 2011 Author Posted November 2, 2011 I was looking back through my old photos. Around the time I was getting a lot of female attention, I was skinny and fashionable. Now I've lost some weight, but I'm still obese. And, by that definition, I am obese and fashionable...still doesn't turn women's heads. I guess I was attracting women who liked skinny nerds. Fat nerds, on the other hand, don't attract many women. fourtyninethousand, I wish I could see your pic. You seem to have everything going for you - looks, intelligence, charisma. I am surprised that the women around you are so stupid as to pass you up.
azsinglegal Posted November 2, 2011 Posted November 2, 2011 Maybe. I mean that is the one group of women I've never tried to ask out. But, at the same time I'm not a meat head either I am legitimately interested in intellectual or nerdy stuff too and I've always imagined that athletic women would be turned off by those things. Eh...maybe I over think things too much. Athletic doesn't mean we like meat head dummies! Give it a try...there are several guys I see at the gym I wish would talk to me.
Author AHardDaysNight Posted November 2, 2011 Author Posted November 2, 2011 Well, I plan to try to gain some muscle. But I lifted a lot of heavy things yesterday ("I lift things up and put them down!"), and today my arms are killing me. I mean, my back hurts, my arms feel like they're going to fall off, and they throb and ache. I think I'm going to take another Ibuprofen. I expect the pain when I start working on my body, because "no pain, no gain", but I just wish a girl would see me before I started working out, instead of after (it's like you have to qualify to get a sandwich, before you can eat...and this is when you're starving!)
OnyxSnowfall Posted November 2, 2011 Posted November 2, 2011 Lol cerridwen I'm not of those girls I find the mystery of the reserved man intriguing, don't care for (public) professional success (unless it involves noble prizes / something that actually brings good into this world ... but it definitely doesn't have to be something that reels in wealth, excessive or otherwise), would take a pudgy squishy body if it meant the person inside was stimulating their mind instead (which is hotter to me than a body can be ) --- but I do like the idea of a man having an otherwise healthy lifestyle.
tman666 Posted November 2, 2011 Posted November 2, 2011 (it's like you have to qualify to get a sandwich, before you can eat...and this is when you're starving!) Nooooo... don't think of it that way. Think of it as you have to get your ass off the couch, go to the store, buy the bread/meat/cheese/lettuce/tomato/etc., go into your kitchen, make the sandwich... THEN you can eat.
Author AHardDaysNight Posted November 2, 2011 Author Posted November 2, 2011 Nooooo... don't think of it that way. Think of it as you have to get your ass off the couch, go to the store, buy the bread/meat/cheese/lettuce/tomato/etc., go into your kitchen, make the sandwich... THEN you can eat. Except making that sandwich can take years. And if you don't have a proper ability to cook, you can burn the sandwich over and over again and it'll never become anything edible. Why am I comparing myself to food? :sick: Anyway, what I'm driving at is for someone who is 29, a virgin with no sexual experience, limited relationship and dating experience, telling them that they can get a hot girl in 2 years (when they're 31 or 32!) is like telling an old man that it's easy to ride a skateboard, all you gotta do is get on. You should have been riding that skateboard at 13, not 31!
Cracker Jack Posted November 2, 2011 Posted November 2, 2011 What is it you want to hear, then? Generally, there are no shortcuts when it comes to stuff like this. It's something that needs to be done, regardless of how long it takes.
Author AHardDaysNight Posted November 2, 2011 Author Posted November 2, 2011 I guess I just want to hear that there are some cute skinny girls that don't require a guy to be skinny or muscular. I guess I just want to hear from real girls on here that they have, or would, date a man who is slightly chubby and out of shape, but has an engaging personality. I guess I just want to know that my theory about how looks is 75% of the attraction process, is false, because otherwise I might just give up on dating completely. If I got buff, and a bunch of hot blond models started showing interest in me, how am I supposed to know that they want me for me, and not just for my new body? I guess I just want to have faith in humanity, instead of thinking that all women and men are one dimensional.
tman666 Posted November 2, 2011 Posted November 2, 2011 Except making that sandwich can take years. And if you don't have a proper ability to cook, you can burn the sandwich over and over again and it'll never become anything edible. Why am I comparing myself to food? :sick: Anyway, what I'm driving at is for someone who is 29, a virgin with no sexual experience, limited relationship and dating experience, telling them that they can get a hot girl in 2 years (when they're 31 or 32!) is like telling an old man that it's easy to ride a skateboard, all you gotta do is get on. You should have been riding that skateboard at 13, not 31! Of course it takes years. There's no way around the prep work. Just because you're getting into the game late doesn't mean that girls are going to make an exception for you (in fact, it's likely the opposite: you have that stacked against you). So in short, yes, you should have been keeping your self in better condition earlier on. But you didn't. That's water under the bridge, my friend. There are PLENTY of guys in their thirties that date/have sex with attractive young females. The common factor is that these guys have their **** together: they're in good shape, they're confident in living their own lives, they're financially stable, they aren't socially inept, etc. I'm not trying to dig at you personally, btw, but in my experience, it's just the way things are. You have to do the prep work. Starting today is better than starting tomorrow. You have to commit to whatever improvement you try to make. You're a musician, as I recall. When you're working on writing a piece of music or working on a highly technical run, do you just get it right the first time? Sure, some people (and maybe you're one of them) are more musically inclined than others naturally. Just like some people tend to be naturally more athletic. However, natural talent aside, a lot of hard work and time has to be spent before excellency is achieved. To go back to the earlier analogy, sandwhiches don't just make themselves. The key is taking personal accountability for your situation and striving to make improvements as you see fit.
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