OnyxSnowfall Posted November 2, 2011 Posted November 2, 2011 (edited) (I may regret starting this thread when I am sober........... but for now >D) What the heck is the big deal about having a "physically attractive" partner? Or even BEING "physically attractive"? What BENEFITS does that really provide? What is "practical" about it? Or as far as the opposite is concerned, are people who highly value "good-looks" shallow? WHY do "good-looks" have an "advantage" over "average/atrocious"? looks, despite their being pros and cons to everything? What is the point of "external beauty of the human"? Why does physical beauty have so much "power"? Is it really some unexplained primitive impulse to "desire" it? And do females *genuinely* covet it as much as males *seem* to? Don't give me "biological" wiring bull **** please... unless you can explain the attraction to the innumerable contrived "appearances" that are abundant.............. Edited November 2, 2011 by OnyxSnowfall
USMCHokie Posted November 2, 2011 Posted November 2, 2011 Life is one big dick-measuring contest, for both men and women, and physical attractiveness is just one of the many standards used in that. Men want beautiful women by their side to make them superior to other men, and the same goes for women. Popular media and society in general also place a premium on physical attractiveness. Entire industries are driven by the individual's quest to be more physically attractive, and this further motivates it. A neverending cycle.
somedude81 Posted November 2, 2011 Posted November 2, 2011 (I may regret starting this thread when I am sober........... but for now >D) What the heck is the big deal about having a "physically attractive" partner? Or even BEING "physically attractive"? What BENEFITS does that really provide? What is "practical" about it? Or as far as the opposite is concerned, are people who highly value "good-looks" shallow? WHY do "good-looks" have an "advantage" over "average/atrocious"? looks, despite their being pros and cons to everything? What is the point of "external beauty of the human"? Why does physical beauty have so much "power"? Is it really some unexplained primitive impulse to "desire" it? And do females *genuinely* covet it as much as males *seem* to? Don't give me "biological" wiring bull **** please... unless you can explain the attraction to the innumerable contrived "appearances" that are abundant.............. Even babies like pretty people, though that's probably the biological wiring BS you don't want to hear. By being physically attractive, you can pretty much choose whomever you want. It's so much easier to be good looking in this world than not. People think others who highly value looks are shallow because its just a way to put that person down for rejecting them, or knowing that they would reject them. Basically, I'd call a woman who only dates men 5'8+ shallow, because I'm upset by the fact that she would reject me. There's also the thing about being rejected for something you have no control over. A "good" person would look over the things that can't be changed and instead focus on the things that can.
ptp Posted November 2, 2011 Posted November 2, 2011 Why because it is nice to wake up next to girl who has a pretty face. Because we aren't as evolved as we would like to think we are. Because "To deny our own impulses is to deny the very thing that makes us human" - Mouse, The Matrix Because of
Author OnyxSnowfall Posted November 2, 2011 Author Posted November 2, 2011 Life is one big dick-measuring contest, for both men and women, and physical attractiveness is just one of the many standards used in that. Men want beautiful women by their side to make them superior to other men, and the same goes for women. Popular media and society in general also place a premium on physical attractiveness. Entire industries are driven by the individual's quest to be more physically attractive, and this further motivates it. A neverending cycle. Hard times... I'm fairly content with "measuring" being behind a lot of it, actually............ lol.................................... So many dots! So foreboding. Can I assume you prefer "hotties" then? :X
USMCHokie Posted November 2, 2011 Posted November 2, 2011 People think others who highly value looks are shallow because its just a way to put that person down for rejecting them, or knowing that they would reject them. Basically, I'd call a woman who only dates men 5'8+ shallow, because I'm upset by the fact that she would reject me. There's also the thing about being rejected for something you have no control over. A "good" person would look over the things that can't be changed and instead focus on the things that can. Again...dick-measuring contest...it's a way for the less physically attractive to balance out the playing field by calling those with supposedly better looks shallow and lacking in personality...thereby making themselves more appealing in general.
johan Posted November 2, 2011 Posted November 2, 2011 It's biological wiring, whether you like it or not.
USMCHokie Posted November 2, 2011 Posted November 2, 2011 It's biological wiring, whether you like it or not. Then why aren't all the "ugly" people extinct...? And why does personality even matter at all...? I think there's more to it than that...
Author OnyxSnowfall Posted November 2, 2011 Author Posted November 2, 2011 Even babies like pretty people, though that's probably the biological wiring BS you don't want to hear. Hmm.... observing my own babies, they haven't judged people ...... they've hugged and loved on "old, smelly wrinkly/warty" people and have been as affectionate with them as they have with "younger more attractive" ones. I have read studies where some babies "respond" more to female voices and or faces............... but perhaps it is due to them drawing an association with what has primarily nourished them. By being physically attractive, you can pretty much choose whomever you want. It's so much easier to be good looking in this world than not. People think others who highly value looks are shallow because its just a way to put that person down for rejecting them, or knowing that they would reject them. I don't know. I've had and (still currently have heh) the option of choosing a myriad of different types of men. This isn't coming from that kind of place. I still don't understand why being perceived as such gives one so many "options". Why? Why does that grant more options... Basically, I'd call a woman who only dates men 5'8+ shallow, because I'm upset by the fact that she would reject me. I will concede that my bane is superficial. Someone here ridiculed it and also claimed it was psychological... and perhaps it is. Why there needs to be a need for excessive compensation is in fact ridiculous. It is something silly... There's also the thing about being rejected for something you have no control over. A "good" person would look over the things that can't be changed and instead focus on the things that can. Heh, I agree.......
snug.bunny Posted November 2, 2011 Posted November 2, 2011 Oh good, another one of "these" threads... Here is my contribution:
orangelady Posted November 2, 2011 Posted November 2, 2011 ] Basically, I'd call a woman who only dates men 5'8+ shallow, because I'm upset by the fact that she would reject me. There's also the thing about being rejected for something you have no control over. A "good" person would look over the things that can't be changed and instead focus on the things that can. So you are not a "good" person?
Author OnyxSnowfall Posted November 2, 2011 Author Posted November 2, 2011 Why because it is nice to wake up next to girl who has a pretty face. Because we aren't as evolved as we would like to think we are. Because "To deny our own impulses is to deny the very thing that makes us human" - Mouse, The Matrix Because of Well, I've wanted to do violent things to people at times I guess foregoing that dehumanized me to some extent. Oh well, I didn't want to be considered "human" anyway It's biological wiring, whether you like it or not. Hmm. How so? Pettiness and or measuring (though they're technically the same thing) seems to better explain a lot of it........
ptp Posted November 2, 2011 Posted November 2, 2011 So you are not a "good" person? Yea I was going to say exactly the same thing.
johan Posted November 2, 2011 Posted November 2, 2011 Then why aren't all the "ugly" people extinct...? And why does personality even matter at all...? I think there's more to it than that... I didn't say we were all wired exactly the same. There must be diversity in the population. And it's true Hokie, looks are not all that matter.
Author OnyxSnowfall Posted November 2, 2011 Author Posted November 2, 2011 Oh good, another one of "these" threads... Here is my contribution: If it's a beaten corpse, I think linking the putrefying remains would be more appropriate if you're going to waste your time at all (sorry, I haven't been participating in the world of forums for very long ).
Author OnyxSnowfall Posted November 2, 2011 Author Posted November 2, 2011 Because beauty is pleasing to the eyes. Is it more pleasing than feeling loved / cared for / blah blah blah? Just how much "pleasure" and or sensation can one derive from a visual sight? Are eyes really that erogenous? Bear with my "ignorance" here, I really am stupid in this area
orangelady Posted November 2, 2011 Posted November 2, 2011 I think it comes down to surface. Its the first thing we see. Plus it is easy to lust. Hardly have to put much work into that. Why it holds so much power though I dont know. Like why people will put up with so much **** just because the person is very attractive. Yet when people attracted to the persons personality but they do not have sexual attraction for them they will hardly have the patience to try and create that physical attraction. Priorities are jumbled and that why divorce is so high and marriage is so dead. Well said.
Author OnyxSnowfall Posted November 2, 2011 Author Posted November 2, 2011 I think it comes down to surface. Its the first thing we see. Plus it is easy to lust. Hardly have to put much work into that. Why it holds so much power though I dont know. Like why people will put up with so much **** just because the person is very attractive. Yet when people attracted to the persons personality but they do not have sexual attraction for them they will hardly have the patience to try and create that physical attraction. Priorities are jumbled and that why divorce is so high and marriage is so dead. Priorities do seem to be jumbled......
snug.bunny Posted November 2, 2011 Posted November 2, 2011 If it's a beaten corpse, I think linking the putrefying remains would be more appropriate if you're going to waste your time at all (sorry, I haven't been participating in the world of forums for very long ). Woah, easy there tiger...
Author OnyxSnowfall Posted November 2, 2011 Author Posted November 2, 2011 Woah, easy there tiger... Meow?
Feelin Frisky Posted November 2, 2011 Posted November 2, 2011 The whole "good looks" thing doesn't stand up to logical analysis as in the questions posted in the OP. It's just nature whacking you over the head saying "this is what you want". I don't know about anyone else but I have no time to question anything in the half a second it takes me to react to someone who is visually appealing. But because I have long endeavored to be more than an admirer of shiny things and nature's lucky accidents, I can ask those questions before deciding to throw myself into really trying to have that kind of ideal. I know I'm not an ideal myself so I don't expect to be able to choose and have that anyway. But I'm glad that nature is what it is and beautiful women exist t brighten up reality and make things interesting here and there.
Eeyore79 Posted November 2, 2011 Posted November 2, 2011 We are attracted to beautiful people because the features we consider to be beautiful are also indicators of good health, strength and fertility. Attractive men have features which relate to a high testosterone level - broad shoulders and chest, chiseled jaw, deep voice, etc. Attractive women have features which relate to high estrogen - wide hips, large breasts, etc. Other features which might indicate that a person is healthy and fertile are clear skin and shiny hair, being tall (no malnutrition or illness in childhood), good teeth, etc. Women are also looking for a confident, dominant man, who will protect her children and hopefully provide genes for them to grow up being dominant themselves. Men are looking for a caring woman who will look after him and his children. Both sexes are looking for someone whose genes are compatible with their own, as judged by the person's looks and smell. So human beings have basically evolved to be attracted to characteristics which suggest that a person is healthy, fertile, and a good mate. While this is less relevant today as we have modern medicine, new technologies and don't need to defend ourselves against wild bears, we can't help what we're genetically programmed to be attracted to.
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