Everything is great with this new guy, even told him how i'm attacked on this forum..

[FrustratedStandards]

And he laughed about it. I explained that I have certain standards which seem too high to many people, even "unreasonable" and he laughed and responded with

 

"They think it's too high because they aren't half of that themselves. A woman such as yourself has every right to want a man [the way I want him]" He said he felt bad that I had to resort to posting on a forum because there aren't enough good men out there.

 

Anyways, spent Saturday night together. We dressed up, went to one of his colleagues halloween parties, but it was boring so we left and went to see a movie. Afterwards we just grabbed a coffee and chatted for a few hours.

 

He's not the most attractive, but his behaviors and ways of thinking make him sexier.

 

 

Just thought I would update. Although I realize that with my growing reputation as a "golddigger" and "woman who thinks she is entitled" most people will probably accuse me of me of exaggerating or lying that i'm satisfied.

 

So is life. Oh well.

[Emilia]

Why does it matter to you what a bunch of strangers think of you on an internet forum? You sound very insecure

[FrustratedStandards]

lol!

 

It doesn't matter. But I want to point out that it's NOT too high of standards. High, yes. But unreasonable? No.

 

I just want people to know that just because someone wants something great, doesn't mean they are (and I quote) "short, fat and ugly" and means they feel "entitled to it" just because they want a man with money.

 

Seriously, I don't get it. Women want a provider, successful man with money. Men want a fertile (even if she doesn't want kids) young beautiful woman.

 

People say that it's "not biological" its something else. That's just stupid. We are animals. We want the dominant strong successful etc males. Men want the healthy beautiful female.

 

You can take the same man, but one is average and one has lots of money. Obviously the one with more money will always be picked over the other.

[Emilia]

lol!

 

It doesn't matter. But I want to point out that it's NOT too high of standards. High, yes. But unreasonable? No.

 

I just want people to know that just because someone wants something great, doesn't mean they are (and I quote) "short, fat and ugly" and means they feel "entitled to it" just because they want a man with money.

 

Seriously, I don't get it. Women want a provider, successful man with money. Men want a fertile (even if she doesn't want kids) young beautiful woman.

 

People say that it's "not biological" its something else. That's just stupid. We are animals. We want the dominant strong successful etc males. Men want the healthy beautiful female.

 

You can take the same man, but one is average and one has lots of money. Obviously the one with more money will always be picked over the other.

 

SOME women. I don't have a problem with your requirements but they are different from mine

[FrustratedStandards]

Yes, some women. I shouldn't generalize too much.

[musemaj11]

 

Seriously, I don't get it. Women want a provider, successful man with money. Men want a fertile (even if she doesn't want kids) young beautiful woman.

 

People say that it's "not biological" its something else. That's just stupid. We are animals. We want the dominant strong successful etc males. Men want the healthy beautiful female.

 

You can take the same man, but one is average and one has lots of money. Obviously the one with more money will always be picked over the other.

I completely agree with your Darwinist view.

 

However, I just wonder if that also means that you accept its the right of a man to trade you in once you can no longer offer youth and beauty?

[Andy_K]

I find that for most women, a man's income is a distant second to the important of the way he makes her feel. Loved, desired, connected, and so forth. Giver her that and she'll feel lucky whether she's rich or not.

 

The ones who are more taken with money, and I don't deny there are a great many of them, tend to be the ones that look outside for approval. The ones who want to be the centre of attention, the ones who want everyone to be envious of their big shiny wedding and large house. For those people it's all about how good they think they have it relative to their peers, rather than on an absolute scale.

 

This is fine, everyone is entitled to their desires. But for my part I find such people to be less spiritually enlightened than those who can genuinely find happiness in the simpler things.

[Lucky_One]

That's so... weird....that you would tell a new man you just met (on your second date no less) that you get so wrapped up in a message board because you felt attacked for your desire for a sexy rich man who will provide for you while you don't work.

 

And he thought this was cute?

 

You know what P T Barnum said...

[FrustratedStandards]

I completely agree with your Darwinist view.

 

However, I just wonder if that also means that you accept its the right of a man to trade you in once you can no longer offer youth and beauty?

 

Of course! That's perfectly natural. That's why a woman must keep in shape, eat well, and maintain herself properly. Of course she will still age, but that doesn't mean she has to "let go".

 

If he leaves for a younger woman, then the woman can leave for another man (given she is taking care of herself properly). I see tons of "cougars" who are much more beautiful than young women who are already fat and don't take care of themselves.

 

That's so... weird....that you would tell a new man you just met (on your second date no less) that you get so wrapped up in a message board because you felt attacked for your desire for a sexy rich man who will provide for you while you don't work.

 

And he thought this was cute?

 

You know what P T Barnum said...

 

Like everyone knows, my honesty is very blunt. I don't care to hide anything. This guy seemed to appreciate it. Besides, it was a good laugh. I don't see why I would have to hide it?

 

And for the record I didn't exactly word it that way, i've learned that the way you present the idea gets a different reaction. It was more like "I feel naturally inclined and very much attracted to men who don't have kids and who can provide well for themselves and for their woman of choice. Being sexy wouldn't hurt either :P"

 

And no, what did P T Barnum say?

[grkBoy]

FS, love ya, love your show, but I think now is the time to put it all to rest.

 

You hopefully found Mr Right, and I'm happy for ya. I only can hope everyone in here eventually finds a Mr or Ms Right.

 

You don't need to prove that your standards were unreasonable. It's as I keep saying, standards are only good if you can attain them...and you did.

 

I wish you luck with the new guy, and hope it leads to wedding bells and a happy life.

[Star Gazer]

Everyone has standards, and there's nothing wrong with having incredibly high superficial standards so long as you're getting them met without terrible difficulty.

 

But I bet the way you presented your "standards" to this man is entirely different than the way you present yourself here, as your attitude on LS is astoundingly unattractive.

[stillafool]

lol!

 

It doesn't matter. But I want to point out that it's NOT too high of standards. High, yes. But unreasonable? No.

 

I just want people to know that just because someone wants something great, doesn't mean they are (and I quote) "short, fat and ugly" and means they feel "entitled to it" just because they want a man with money.

 

Seriously, I don't get it. Women want a provider, successful man with money. Men want a fertile (even if she doesn't want kids) young beautiful woman.

 

People say that it's "not biological" its something else. That's just stupid. We are animals. We want the dominant strong successful etc males. Men want the healthy beautiful female.

 

You can take the same man, but one is average and one has lots of money. Obviously the one with more money will always be picked over the other.

 

 

Well now that you have found him I don't suppose you will have the time to come to this forum anymore. Good luck with your new man with money.

[musemaj11]

I find that for most women, a man's income is a distant second to the important of the way he makes her feel. Loved, desired, connected, and so forth. Giver her that and she'll feel lucky whether she's rich or not.

 

The only women who would want to be with poorer men are women who don't get to choose in the first place.

Edited November 4, 2011 by a LoveShack.org Moderator

[KathyM]

I think men normally want a woman who has more than just a pretty face when they are choosing their LT mate. They may be satisfied with only beauty in the short term, but they do want other traits in someone they will be with in the long term. They want someone they can actually relate to and have a intelligent conversation with, and someone who has some goals and ambitions for herself. Nowdays, women provide towards the household income, and that is expected. I think it's pretty rare in this day and age that men would be satisfied with someone who had no ambitions for herself and no plans to get a job at all.

[oaks]

And he laughed about it.

 

I'm failing to understand why you started this thread. After the "big FU" of the previous one I really thought you didn't care what we think.

[Ilovewater]

And for the record I didn't exactly word it that way, i've learned that the way you present the idea gets a different reaction. It was more like "I feel naturally inclined and very much attracted to men who don't have kids and who can provide well for themselves and for their woman of choice. Being sexy wouldn't hurt either :P"

 

Of course what you said (above) doesn't sound bad to him because you're not being completely honest. You're leaving out 50% of what you said on this forum.

[Professor X]

lol!

 

It doesn't matter.

 

You are a smart woman, so I'm sure you know that the very fact that you did post a thread shows you do care.

When you care you show interest, when you don't, well... you don't.

[FrustratedStandards]

I guess i'm just trying to justify certain things, even though I don't have to.

[stillafool]

I really thought you didn't care what we think.

 

That's just it! She cares very much what a bunch of strangers think of her.

[oaks]

And no, what did P T Barnum say?

 

He famously might (not) have said "There's a sucker born every minute" but I'm not sure which quote Lucky_One was thinking about.

[oaks]

That's just it! She cares very much what a bunch of strangers think of her.

 

Yes, that's what I was implying.

[Mme. Chaucer]

Personally, I have considered your standards to be depressingly low. From my perspective, standards that are high are not centered exclusively upon superficial and materialistic things.

 

In fact, that was one of the reasons I took exception to your posts - that you (mistakenly) believed that your standards were "too high."

 

Anyway, I think I understand where you are coming from. I am always happy if a person finds what they are looking for, as long as they are not hurting others in doing so. And I don't think you are. So, good for you!

 

You are very fair in your approach that it's just fine for the guy to trade you out when you "wear out," and that then it's your time to be a "cougar" and do the same.

 

I do hope, though, that if these 2 dates lead to your ultimate goal (where you quit your job and he supports you, right?) that you find a way to sock away some money. Since you won't be married or have kids, the gravy train will stop when it's time for you to be traded out. You'll need some resources to tide you over until the "cougar" phase kicks in, right?

 

Just keep that in mind.

[musemaj11]

Of course! That's perfectly natural. That's why a woman must keep in shape, eat well, and maintain herself properly. Of course she will still age, but that doesn't mean she has to "let go".

 

If he leaves for a younger woman, then the woman can leave for another man (given she is taking care of herself properly). I see tons of "cougars" who are much more beautiful than young women who are already fat and don't take care of themselves.

Thats fair. At least you are not a hypocrite.

 

It was more like "I feel naturally inclined and very much attracted to men who don't have kids and who can provide well for themselves and for their woman of choice. Being sexy wouldn't hurt either :P"

Lol, the guy totally doesnt know what he is actually dealing with.

[cutecatch]

And he laughed about it. I explained that I have certain standards which seem too high to many people, even "unreasonable" and he laughed and responded with

 

"They think it's too high because they aren't half of that themselves. A woman such as yourself has every right to want a man [the way I want him]" He said he felt bad that I had to resort to posting on a forum because there aren't enough good men out there.

 

Anyways, spent Saturday night together. We dressed up, went to one of his colleagues halloween parties, but it was boring so we left and went to see a movie. Afterwards we just grabbed a coffee and chatted for a few hours.

 

He's not the most attractive, but his behaviors and ways of thinking make him sexier.

 

 

Just thought I would update. Although I realize that with my growing reputation as a "golddigger" and "woman who thinks she is entitled" most people will probably accuse me of me of exaggerating or lying that i'm satisfied.

 

So is life. Oh well.

 

Seems to me you have settled on your standards since he is not the most attractive guy

[Lucky_One]

He famously might (not) have said "There's a sucker born every minute" but I'm not sure which quote Lucky_One was thinking about.

 

Yes. That's the one that he (might have) said that I was referencing.

 

Why do I think it's sad to think that a woman would actually have "Become a cougar" as a potential life goal?