dispatch3d Posted November 2, 2011 Posted November 2, 2011 I think I speak for everyone. ***c not again.
Trimmer Posted November 2, 2011 Posted November 2, 2011 I mean she talks to me and is not repulsed as of yet. Sigh... You have such high standards. (... "as of yet" ) this girl didn't say NO though. Just didn't give an answer and tried avoiding it. and when I said sorry for being so persistant asking her to hangout with me she said it was okay no worries. That means "No." Woah there.... "stalking" in a serious allegation which unless tested in a court of law one cannot call it a "history of stalking". Writing love notes and such to women does not make one a stalker. Leaving dead animals, and hiding in womens tress to peep at them is stalking. Looking at someones facebook isn't stalking. Hijacking someones facebook and taking control of it from them is stalking. Persistent pursuit until a clear signal of NO isn't stalking. (Not responding isn't a clear no signal it's a cop out.) Persistent pursuit after a clearly worded no is harassment and could be stalking. In the space between each of your "either-or" scenarios, you've left a whole bunch of gray area which is exactly where the OP lives. Let's say we don't call it "stalking" from a legal perspective.... You may want to review this thread, which starts out with the OP, a student, being talked to by a faculty department head, telling him to back off his advances toward his professor, or the situation will get escalated to the school's Vice President, Dean, and Harrassment Board. Then 5 days later, (skip down to post 138 and beyond) he's mystified as to why it wouldn't be a good idea to get her a small parting gift, "to leave a positive, lasting impression." Or this thread, where the object of his affection tells him directly that she is with a boyfriend that she has had for 4 years, and he then goes on to wonder how he gets her to "like him more" (post #19) whether he should ask her out to dinner (post #27), and later, once he sees a facebook posting that implies there might have been infidelity in her current relationship, asks "since it means shes willing to cheat is there anything ethically wrong with trying to pursue her again?" (Have to admit, that made me laugh...) Don't miss post #47: "Could she have me fired if I keep hitting on her? " Or, the hockey usher thread, in which, after we told him to stop, and a friend told him to stop, he finally gets a talking to by security at the hockey arena. Or the grandaddy thread that started it all, the Katherine McPhee celeb/crush thread. (Also, google <Onegoal Katherine McPhee> for samples from other sites...) So, OK.... don't call it stalking from a legal perspective if you don't want to - how about calling it a "repeating cycle of concerning behavior?" The point is still there, and this history indicates why some of us can't just stay in an isolated context of this thread, and give him "atta boy, try again" type of advice. I believe that would be a disservice to the targets of his attention.
Mme. Chaucer Posted November 2, 2011 Posted November 2, 2011 You may want to review this thread, which starts out with the OP, a student, being talked to by a faculty department head, telling him to back off his advances toward his professor, or the situation will get escalated to the school's Vice President, Dean, and Harrassment Board. Then 5 days later, (skip down to post 138 and beyond) he's mystified as to why it wouldn't be a good idea to get her a small parting gift, "to leave a positive, lasting impression." In that thread, and others, Mrlonelyone has also defended and encouraged onegoal's behavior. Even gone so far as to "break down" the situation for him and the rest of us so we could understand why the situation was actually onegoal being mistreated by his professor. So, OK.... don't call it stalking from a legal perspective if you don't want to - how about calling it a "repeating cycle of concerning behavior?" The point is still there, and this history indicates why some of us can't just stay in an isolated context of this thread, and give him "atta boy, try again" type of advice. I believe that would be a disservice to the targets of his attention. Evidently Mrlonelyone does not find it to be concerning. The rest of the world does, though, onegoal. People don't generally respond well to being treated as "targets."
Professor X Posted November 2, 2011 Posted November 2, 2011 If they continue, I'll contact my lawyer. I wanna see you do that, hahahahaha.
oaks Posted November 2, 2011 Posted November 2, 2011 this girl didn't say NO though. Just didn't give an answer and tried avoiding it. and when I said sorry for being so persistant asking her to hangout with me she said it was okay no worries. That's the same as "no" but without being blunt or rude to you. She isn't interested. Someone will be, but it's not this one. Move on quickly otherwise (again) you're wasting your time.
Mrlonelyone Posted November 2, 2011 Posted November 2, 2011 (edited) Trimmer. The stalking laws are defined just the way they are for a reason. To make sure that certain behavior is stalking independent of how it is received on the other end. For the Brits here One goal is from Missouri...(That confederate flag in his avatar is shaped like the state of Missouri just FYI) right next door to the Great State of Illinois where I live. This is how we legally think of stalking around here. http://familylawgazette.com/2011/05/illinois-numerous-anti-cyberstalking-laws/ The essence of these laws is to criminalize behavior such as threatening a victim, causing a victim emotional distress, or placing a victim under surveillance on two or more occasions. Being slightly annoyed, or asked out once twice or even thrice is NOT stalking. Not even in a grey area. @Hard days night. I don't see how anyone could dig up a "Criminial record" based on information available here. He may have been accused but never brought to trial. May I suggest that whoever did that digging needs to get a life. Edited November 2, 2011 by Mrlonelyone
LexiB Posted November 2, 2011 Posted November 2, 2011 Being slightly annoyed, or asked out once twice or even thrice is NOT stalking. Not even in a grey area. How can you put such a positive spin on his interactions? By OneGoal's own accounts, you can tell that most of his female obsessions have been majorly PISSED OFF and CREEPED OUT by his incessant pursuit. Three of his crushes have led to the involvement of school officials, security guards and being banned from a celebrity fan page. This is all indicative of women who were merely "slightly annoyed" to you? As to OG 'only' asking the women out 2 or 3 times...ha. Let's not even go there.
Author one goal Posted November 2, 2011 Author Posted November 2, 2011 But then this is yet another single girl who wont go out with me! I'm tired of this! I'm never going to get a girlfriend! Everytime this happens! Why?
Mrlonelyone Posted November 2, 2011 Posted November 2, 2011 Your real issue isnt how you act it's who you choose. OG the only pattern I see in your attractions is they are women who are in a position of some kind of authority, with respect to you. Stop that. They have worked with you in a team on school projects. They have been teachers. Allegedly one was some kind of singer or whatever. Just stay away from women in that kind of position. Try the following. Look at the freshman and sophomore women. Find one who's cute, and talk to her. Eventually one will like you back. NO teachers, graduate students, or anyone you work with...NO women with any authority over you.
oaks Posted November 2, 2011 Posted November 2, 2011 But then this is yet another single girl who wont go out with me! I'm tired of this! I'm never going to get a girlfriend! Everytime this happens! Why? She's what, the 3rd girl this year that you've asked out? If asking out 3 girls in 10 months is tiring you out then you're doing it wrong. As for why... what have you got to offer? Are you attractive in any way? You come across here as socially awkward, and not in a cute way, and bitter, and clueless. You pretend to ask for advice (although, to be fair, often you just tell us what's going on and we pile in with unsolicited advice) and then you ignore the advice, so what are you doing to make a positive improvement to your dating prospects? I think in a previous thread I dared you to ask out 2 more women by Christmas... so this is one. Well done. Next!
Author one goal Posted November 2, 2011 Author Posted November 2, 2011 Your real issue isnt how you act it's who you choose. OG the only pattern I see in your attractions is they are women who are in a position of some kind of authority, with respect to you. Stop that. They have worked with you in a team on school projects. They have been teachers. Allegedly one was some kind of singer or whatever. Just stay away from women in that kind of position. Try the following. Look at the freshman and sophomore women. Find one who's cute, and talk to her. Eventually one will like you back. NO teachers, graduate students, or anyone you work with...NO women with any authority over you. The chicks I tried at school were freshmen and sophmores.
Author one goal Posted November 2, 2011 Author Posted November 2, 2011 She's what, the 3rd girl this year that you've asked out? If asking out 3 girls in 10 months is tiring you out then you're doing it wrong. As for why... what have you got to offer? Are you attractive in any way? You come across here as socially awkward, and not in a cute way, and bitter, and clueless. You pretend to ask for advice (although, to be fair, often you just tell us what's going on and we pile in with unsolicited advice) and then you ignore the advice, so what are you doing to make a positive improvement to your dating prospects? I think in a previous thread I dared you to ask out 2 more women by Christmas... so this is one. Well done. Next! yes, I'm bitter because I hate the way females in general treat me. I dont really have any hotties in my classes except one, but I dont sit by her or talk to her and she's a soccer player so I'd have no shot anyways. Hopefully next semester I have hotties. Im taking a yoga class for one of my classes. There is no excuse the treatment I'm getting. This girl I like is a sophmore. The problem is my university is s small one so if a girl got freaked over me, the whole school would hear about it and I would be doomed.
oaks Posted November 2, 2011 Posted November 2, 2011 Hopefully next semester I have hotties. Im taking a yoga class for one of my classes. You use the word 'hotty' a lot. Do you mean that you're only interested in the most beautiful women? Are you the male equivalent of a 'hotty' yourself? Or are you unrealistically expecting the most attractive women to fancy you when you're nothing special? Nothing wrong with wanting a hot girl, but if you're getting bitter about failing to do so then you should ask yourself if that's a realistic goal. But, yes, you'll meet girls in a yoga class. Nice idea.
Author one goal Posted November 2, 2011 Author Posted November 2, 2011 You use the word 'hotty' a lot. Do you mean that you're only interested in the most beautiful women? Are you the male equivalent of a 'hotty' yourself? Or are you unrealistically expecting the most attractive women to fancy you when you're nothing special? Nothing wrong with wanting a hot girl, but if you're getting bitter about failing to do so then you should ask yourself if that's a realistic goal. But, yes, you'll meet girls in a yoga class. Nice idea. Yes she's a very pretty lady. I really like her personality too. She's so funny and that. I really like her.
Cracker Jack Posted November 2, 2011 Posted November 2, 2011 I like the part where you didn't answer any of oaks's questions. But I look forward to hearing about your Yoga experiences when you begin the class......
ShannonMI Posted November 2, 2011 Posted November 2, 2011 But then this is yet another single girl who wont go out with me! I'm tired of this! I'm never going to get a girlfriend! Everytime this happens! Why? Because you're a creeper perhaps?:eek:
oaks Posted November 2, 2011 Posted November 2, 2011 I like the part where you didn't answer any of oaks's questions. I spotted that, too, but really they were rhetorical. He should answer them for himself; I think the rest of us know the answers already.
Lucky_One Posted November 2, 2011 Posted November 2, 2011 I'm glad we aren't in the same room, because if I heard the word "hottie" come out of your mouth, I would smack you upside the head with a hammer. Possibly an axe. One_Goal, maybe half your problem is you only look at women as a set of tits and ass. Wome are so much more than just "hotness". I don't like any guy who only continues talking to me because of my looks/body rather than talking to me because of my personality and intelligence. I think the world would be a whole lot better off if we walked around blindfolded for a week and had to learn what people are really like inside rather than simply judge them for what their exterior looks like.
ShannonMI Posted November 2, 2011 Posted November 2, 2011 Sigh... You have such high standards. (... "as of yet" ) That means "No." In the space between each of your "either-or" scenarios, you've left a whole bunch of gray area which is exactly where the OP lives. Let's say we don't call it "stalking" from a legal perspective.... You may want to review this thread, which starts out with the OP, a student, being talked to by a faculty department head, telling him to back off his advances toward his professor, or the situation will get escalated to the school's Vice President, Dean, and Harrassment Board. Then 5 days later, (skip down to post 138 and beyond) he's mystified as to why it wouldn't be a good idea to get her a small parting gift, "to leave a positive, lasting impression." Or this thread, where the object of his affection tells him directly that she is with a boyfriend that she has had for 4 years, and he then goes on to wonder how he gets her to "like him more" (post #19) whether he should ask her out to dinner (post #27), and later, once he sees a facebook posting that implies there might have been infidelity in her current relationship, asks "since it means shes willing to cheat is there anything ethically wrong with trying to pursue her again?" (Have to admit, that made me laugh...) Don't miss post #47: "Could she have me fired if I keep hitting on her? " Or, the hockey usher thread, in which, after we told him to stop, and a friend told him to stop, he finally gets a talking to by security at the hockey arena. Or the grandaddy thread that started it all, the Katherine McPhee celeb/crush thread. (Also, google <Onegoal Katherine McPhee> for samples from other sites...) So, OK.... don't call it stalking from a legal perspective if you don't want to - how about calling it a "repeating cycle of concerning behavior?" The point is still there, and this history indicates why some of us can't just stay in an isolated context of this thread, and give him "atta boy, try again" type of advice. I believe that would be a disservice to the targets of his attention. Or you could call it "creeper behavior?" Stop posting on here, one goal and go check yourself into a psych ward. It may do you some good. You may even get a girlfriend someday if you help yourself.
Author one goal Posted November 2, 2011 Author Posted November 2, 2011 I'm glad we aren't in the same room, because if I heard the word "hottie" come out of your mouth, I would smack you upside the head with a hammer. Possibly an axe. One_Goal, maybe half your problem is you only look at women as a set of tits and ass. Wome are so much more than just "hotness". I don't like any guy who only continues talking to me because of my looks/body rather than talking to me because of my personality and intelligence. I think the world would be a whole lot better off if we walked around blindfolded for a week and had to learn what people are really like inside rather than simply judge them for what their exterior looks like. She's hot, very, BUT she has a killer personality and is very friendly and silly, huggy. She's single, and I'm serious I really like this girl and I love her peronsality. What suggestions do you have for me that I can try and use to get a date? Anything? Please help me here! Also how often should I text her. the last week half I've texted her a little more. Sometimes we text and hour or two a day. Otherwise I usually only text her every couple weeks.
oaks Posted November 2, 2011 Posted November 2, 2011 She's single, and I'm serious I really like this girl and I love her peronsality. What suggestions do you have for me that I can try and use to get a date? Anything? Please help me here! "Hi. Would you like to get a coffee with me?" There's no magic to this. She either likes you enough to want to date you or she doesn't. Also how often should I text her. the last week half I've texted her a little more. Sometimes we text and hour or two a day. Otherwise I usually only text her every couple weeks. If she doesn't go for coffee then not at all, and you should ask her in person.
Author one goal Posted November 2, 2011 Author Posted November 2, 2011 "Hi. Would you like to get a coffee with me?" There's no magic to this. She either likes you enough to want to date you or she doesn't. If she doesn't go for coffee then not at all, and you should ask her in person. Is it okay to ask to go to lunch or dinner instead?
oaks Posted November 2, 2011 Posted November 2, 2011 Is it okay to ask to go to lunch or dinner instead? Sure. Have a specific plan of which restaurant and which day just in case she says 'yes'. (but from your first post in this thread I think she isn't interested, so don't get your hopes up.)
Author one goal Posted November 2, 2011 Author Posted November 2, 2011 Sure. Have a specific plan of which restaurant and which day just in case she says 'yes'. (but from your first post in this thread I think she isn't interested, so don't get your hopes up.) I long should I wait? I mean I wanna give her space. Should I wait a couple weeks?
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