TheBigQuestion Posted October 31, 2011 Posted October 31, 2011 This isn't 100% on topic, but I think it's a pertinent corollary nonetheless. One thing I've noticed is that a lot of men who are "against" porn or feel a lot of guilt when they use it are made to feel that way because their religion guilts them into it. Most Christian denominations preach a very anachronistic and for all intents and purposes useless view of sexuality, and of vice in general. I've smoked weed, masturbated regularly, drank enough beer and hard liquor in college to fill a few man-made lakes, and had all sorts of premarital sex. Basically all the things that they tell kids not to do in Christian youth groups around the country with the threat of a slow, horrible death and eternal damnation. Somehow, I and most other people I know with similar backgrounds didn't end up living in sin in a gutter somewhere with hairy palms and track marks on our arms. The moral of the story isn't necessarily "If it feels good, do it," but rather don't let something silly like religion guilt you into feeling that your desire for sex, or to masturbate, is wrong. You can still believe in God without all the man-made moralistic nonsense (though believing in a Judeo-Christian God is silly itself, but that's a different story and thread). Most of the women who are against porn simply feel threatened by it. From my own life experience, the only women I've known who are/have been against porn have major self-esteem issues centering around their own appearance and/or their own confidence to "keep' men. My first girlfriend, who I dated for 3 years, had a somewhat contradictory view on porn, but admitted that most of what triggered her disdain for porn was the idea that she did not have what the porn stars had. Of course, this wasn't true. She had an incredible body and was the object of many a man's lust, and she knew it, but her insecurity was enough to overshadow that fact in her mind. My friend's fiancee almost broke up with him a few years back because of his occasional porn use, despite being fiercely dedicated to her and giving her pretty much all the sex she could have without injuring herself. I lived in the room next to him in college, so I know this first hand. Why did she get so up in arms over it? She gave all sorts of reasons about it being harmful to society, but it pretty much once again came down to her feeling extremely insecure about her appearance. Both of these women outwardly manifested their insecurities in other ways. Contrast that with my current girlfriend who has few if any issues with her appearance (despite being the "fat girl" during most of her childhood). She has no issue with anyone watching porn, watches it regularly herself, and her own observation has been that women who make arguments against porn have not put in much effort in working through their own self-image issues. Just some food for thought. Also, I echo all of the sentiments from dasein's post above.
somedude81 Posted October 31, 2011 Posted October 31, 2011 Why does porn get so much special attention? Because lots of women don't like it, some are threatened by it, some view it as sexist or at least antifeminist. Somehow men don't get as bent out of shape about things like bachelor auctions, most eligible lists, the literal sea of celebrity worship in our media and the fashion industry that fosters unrealistic expectations in women in exactly the same way that porn fosters unrealistic expectations in men. I guess the "height threads" are an exception admittedly, but the men who start and participate in those are keelhauled here, so it's different. Women complain that porn gives men unrealistic expectations about real women, then blithely choose a 6'4" man with a six pack who is "cut" like a model (just like they see in the tabloids and fashion marketing) to have as FWB or NSA, oblivious to the fact that that model height, protruding abdominal muscles and < 10% body fat are every bit as unnatural as gigantic perfectly shaped firm breasts on a woman with a tiny waist if not moreso. Women willingly chase after and SHARE these few men with other women, hoping to win the lottery one day by snagging a man far far above them in physical attractiveness and value in the dating market. Then they denounce the men who get left out of the musical chair game for using porn... hilarious in the irony and hypocrisy. So before anyone waves the "holier than thou" flag about porn, they need to examine their own preferences, behavior, sexual habits, and the porn equivalents that they consume, respond to and are manipulated by. IMO most women who complain about porn use, unless they are personally experiencing trying to have a relationship with a porn addict, need to get off their high horse. Porn allows many men who are left out of the dating game in a way the average woman will never understand an outlet. Why is that a bad thing? Some great points. Women objectify men just as much. But they do it in their everyday lives and don't spend a second thinking about those they hurt.
snug.bunny Posted October 31, 2011 Posted October 31, 2011 Okay, so we've had multiple threads now on here that have been against porn. Here is one that will support the three main supporting points for pornography: 1. Helps protect against STDs/unwanted pregnancy 2. Helps relieve sexual tension, when there is no form of a sexual relationship happening 3. Helps protect against cheating on your spouse How do these points stand? Point #1: Easily, if you're wanking off, and you don't have a real vagina to penetrate, you are not going to get an STD, give an STD, or get a virtual girl pregnant. This also helps you stay celibate, if you don't desire kids or want to hold off on getting intimate, and the porn fills that void. Point #2: A guy's mood can be improved through simple masturbation. I know that, sometimes when I'm tired or feeling down, getting off can make me feel happier. In that sense, porn is a great visual way to spark the imagination, and help ease sexual tension. Point #3: This must be said: Porn isn't cheating! You can't cheat with a computer, you can't **** a computer, you can't go on dates with a computer! Those girls are real, but they're not even touching you - you are touching you - so in that sense, if you are cheating with anybody, it's yourself, because those girls don't exist except in virtual la-la land! I do have to stress that, if someone looks at porn too much that it stands in or affects their ongoing relationship with a live girlfriend, well then you should cut out the porn. But porn in itself is not cheating...but it can fulfill that basic need that men have to have sex with every girl possible, by stimulating the imagination and making you stay faithful to your girlfriend/wife, all the while fulfilling that basic need. So basically, those are the three points. I want to have a debate, not an argument, over why I am either right or wrong in these points. I personally think that porn is very beneficial, and that there is nothing wrong with most of it. This tends to sound like "advocation"... Oh, I don't know... This topic is just such a mixed bag of endless discussion points and POV's. And then there is: (1) The use of porn as a single man; and (2) The use of porn while IN a relationship. If you're single, the only person you need to be concerned with is yourself, right? So with that said, if you want to watch porn, watch it. You're free to do as you please. But, if you come here and post a thread that says "I watch too much porn and it is interfering with my ability to connect with women", then we would most likely have a different response for you.. If/when you are in a relationship, there are two people involved and the use of porn WILL have an impact on the other person and ultimately, you and your relationship. It could be minor, or it could be major. All dependant on usage, frequency, whether or not it's used in secrecy, how your partner feels about porn in general, your usage of it, how it reflects upon the relationship both emotionally and sexually, so on and so forth... So, just some things to consider in the grand scheme of things. You can debate pros/cons until the cows come home, but in the end, it may just boil down to:
Wolf18 Posted October 31, 2011 Posted October 31, 2011 What do women watch to get off anyway? Rape porn ? Vampires? Dolce and Gabana fashion shows?
Negative Nancy Posted October 31, 2011 Posted October 31, 2011 So.....on the other thread you posted that you would never look at porn again after you read the pink cross site that DY had posted. And now THIS? I'll tell you what happened: you tried to stay away from porn, were too weak for it and are now looking for justifications to continue to watch it. It's called cognitive dissonance. If you're too weak too stop, that's one thing and personally I don't care if you quit or don't quit anyway, but don't try to sugarcoat it by pretending to be this enlightened pro-porn boy that tells us how we should feel about porn with - admittedly - thin arguments. To some porn is cheating because you give your sexual energy and attention to other women.
OnyxSnowfall Posted October 31, 2011 Posted October 31, 2011 Where to start. A sexually liberal woman wouldn't care at all if her man watched porn. Embracing porn does not equate into sexual liberty. Also, I have a *sneaking* suspicion I, although I do not integrate porn into my life (and although you have yet to actually experience a sex life), am far far far more sexually "liberated" than you. I am open to anything and everything within the confines of monogamy --- that includes things that would apparently make your face turn green . I love anal sex, for one. Urine etc I'm down for too, if that's what pleases my lover. Damnnn....... Great post AHDN, I agree with everything you've said. Let me guess, you're a porn consumer? His argument is so flawed and has little to do with porn, it's ridiculous. But you go ahead and agree with a dense point from someone who believes Halloween is a lifestyle --- damnnn....... I keep resorting to being a bitch. I watch porn myself, and I always suggested watching porn with my exes. It's so much fun, and you really learn about the things your partner likes. I'm sure the wealthy good-looking man who will spoil you and let you stay home without bearing any children will be delighted to know you're open to enjoying porn with him. Shallow begets shallowness Sorry, that's kind of uncalled for, but seriously, this applies to you --- not other couples that watch it together. But you. It seems that men and women who view pornography, have improved sex lives, better sexual knowledge, and an overall better quality of life. Surprisingly, one study found that the more that pornography is viewed, the greater the improvements. Haha... did a porn industry "fund" this research? This is bull ****, and until you've been in your own relationships and have witnessed the dynamics personally (not to mention observed and intertwined within others), it doesn't matter. I've known so many couples wherein "porn" has ruined their relationship... and where one partner has suffered at the dependency of the other's use. Ever heard of the vocal minority? It's the small number of people that yell the loudest. This is true and is something to consider. She has no issue with anyone watching porn, watches it regularly herself, and her own observation has been that women who make arguments against porn have not put in much effort in working through their own self-image issues. I think it does account for some women (the same could even be said about some of the women in the porn industry as well) Still, there are those of us with stronger self-images who've other, genuine, issues with the porn industry. dasein - I guess I'm free of "objectifying" my lover then, yay. Does that mean my ranting is more valid? Hmm...
snug.bunny Posted October 31, 2011 Posted October 31, 2011 What do women watch to get off anyway? Rape porn ? Vampires? Dolce and Gabana fashion shows? Ewe no. Anything that involves intense passionate ******* works best for me. I've watched it (fine I admit it! ) but very moderately.
Negative Nancy Posted October 31, 2011 Posted October 31, 2011 So before anyone waves the "holier than thou" flag about porn, they need to examine their own preferences, behavior, sexual habits, and the porn equivalents that they consume, respond to and are manipulated by. so here's one "examination": I'm on the high horse about porn and my boyfriend does not fit the stereotypical tall and dark (but he's handsome). My preferences are not shaped by the media cos I'm into heavily tattooed rock guys, so the tall dark "gentleman" in the business suit doesn't do it for me. I also do not "share" my boyfriend - I even go as far as not even wanting to share him with "porn girls" - why the ffff else would I be on such a crusade against porn? So your point basically makes no sense whatsoever.
OnyxSnowfall Posted October 31, 2011 Posted October 31, 2011 "It seems that men and women who view pornography, have improved sex lives, better sexual knowledge, and an overall better quality of life. Surprisingly, one study found that the more that pornography is viewed, the greater the improvements." I want to expound upon this --- because it dawned on me that it could be referring to single people as well (as single people can indeed have sex lives). In that case.......... of the men I've been with who've indulged in porn --- they have been relatively clueless in bed. Sexual "knowledge"?! The type of material being viewed is crucial, it is not some staple blanket. And it's been a hit or miss whether or not they've been happy in general with their life. In my experience, anyone truly addicted to it has actually appeared overall miserable heh. But that comes with most addictions.....
somedude81 Posted October 31, 2011 Posted October 31, 2011 "It seems that men and women who view pornography, have improved sex lives, better sexual knowledge, and an overall better quality of life. Surprisingly, one study found that the more that pornography is viewed, the greater the improvements." I want to expound upon this --- because it dawned on me that it could be referring to single people as well (as single people can indeed have sex lives). In that case.......... of the men I've been with who've indulged in porn --- they have been relatively clueless in bed. Sexual "knowledge"?! The type of material being viewed is crucial, it is not some staple blanket. And it's been a hit or miss whether or not they've been happy in general with their life. In my experience, anyone truly addicted to it has actually appeared overall miserable heh. But that comes with most addictions..... LOL, I can confirm that. Sex is one of the many things in life that one can't learn from watching a video. Frankly, it may even lead screwing things up worse than if the video wasn't watched first. Though, there are some instructional movies out there. I got a good movie on how to give oral to a woman that should be helpful.
Author AHardDaysNight Posted October 31, 2011 Author Posted October 31, 2011 (edited) Onyx,you're up to doing porn related stuff (golden showers, anal, etc) with your boyfriend, but you feel it's wrong for paid pornstars in the industry to do it? Edited October 31, 2011 by AHardDaysNight
OnyxSnowfall Posted October 31, 2011 Posted October 31, 2011 (edited) Onyx,you're up to doing porn related stuff (golden showers, anal, etc) with your boyfriend, but you feel it's wrong for paid pornstars in the industry to do it? Porn related stuff? Wtf? (I would have to not like sex at all to be anti-porn??? 'cause, even "milder" porn involves a form of sex to some extent, hmm......) I think golden showers etc were of interest before they were apparently *only* "intended" for others to use as pornographic material........ it wasn't something "created" for people just to view/use as "porn". I'm not following your insinuation / inquiry :X Yes, I'm up to sharing sexual pleasure within a real and meaningful and monogamous relationship (one based in a sincere desire to please someone else and also to express affection, connection and bliss and so much more... and we're not contributing to the issues that are of concern, lol). Oh noes, the horror. You obviously struggle with differentiation... Edited October 31, 2011 by OnyxSnowfall
Wolf18 Posted October 31, 2011 Posted October 31, 2011 (edited) Ewe no. Anything that involves intense passionate ******* works best for me. I've watched it (fine I admit it! ) but very moderately. You think porn can ever be "passionate"? I hope you think banging a hooker can be passionate as well, by that standard. I don't understand why the average woman would even bother watching porn when she can go to a bar and have her pick of good looking men for the night. I'm a guy and pornography even disgusts me, especially when they start sodomizing each other or it's a guy with a 12 inch wang (how is it possible to imagine being him ). Rather jack it to women I've been with sexually, real life trumps the glitter and fakeness of porn. I wouldn't even mind banning porn. It has sexually warped men and women to the point of no return. Edited October 31, 2011 by Wolf18
OnyxSnowfall Posted October 31, 2011 Posted October 31, 2011 Wow Wolfy, I never thought we'd even remotely agree on something concerning the realms of sexuality
Metis Posted October 31, 2011 Posted October 31, 2011 I don't understand why the average woman would even bother watching porn when she can go to a bar and have her pick of good looking men for the night. Really? You don't understand that? Okay, masturbating to porn versus bedding a stranger. Here is a list of things that a stranger may do that porn would never do: (1) Kill you; (2) Turn out to have some kind of weird, violent fetish that will turn the night into a nightmare and make it necessary to go to the emergency room the next morning; (3) Slip you a drug that will cause you long-term neurological damage; (4) Give you an STD; (5) Stalk you afterwards; (6) Rob you; (7) Film the encounter, then post it on Youtube; (8) Blabber about you on Facebook. Sure, having sex with a stranger does have its advantages over masturbation, but it's not the no-brainer you believe it to be. But then again, not being a 5-foot, 120-lb woman, I can see how it wouldn't be understandable to you. I'm a guy and pornography even disgusts me, especially when they start sodomizing each other or it's a guy with a 12 inch wang (how is it possible to imagine being him ). Rather jack it to women I've been with sexually, real life trumps the glitter and fakeness of porn. Great, then don't YOU watch porn. To each his own, you know? I wouldn't even mind banning porn. It has sexually warped men and women to the point of no return. Not a fan of the First Amendment, are you? Men and women who are paternalistically coddled and shielded from things some do-gooder deems offensive do far more to warp them sexually than the most explicit porn. What would you ban next? Books with happy endings? Movies with good-looking actors? Advertising?
snug.bunny Posted October 31, 2011 Posted October 31, 2011 You think porn can ever be "passionate"? I hope you think banging a hooker can be passionate as well, by that standard. Of course. They just do not consist of the "Debbie Does Dallas" variety.
ptp Posted October 31, 2011 Posted October 31, 2011 (edited) My current GF is along the lines of J200 and I have to say for me it is incredibly erotic learning about what a beautiful women finds erotic and sexy. In fact it is waaaay better than actually watching any porn. It is like getting unmolested access into that girl's mind free from shame and embarrassment. Edited October 31, 2011 by ptp
OnyxSnowfall Posted October 31, 2011 Posted October 31, 2011 J200 -- no ma'am, you are not the typical female (or person, for that matter. Very few people claim to be as antisocial, unsympathetic and narcissistic as you've described, just saying [it's still fascinating nonetheless ]).
OnyxSnowfall Posted October 31, 2011 Posted October 31, 2011 Not a fan of the First Amendment, are you? As if there are things that aren't already banned? Heh. Most advertising is bull ****, btw.
ptp Posted October 31, 2011 Posted October 31, 2011 J200 -- no ma'am, you are not the typical female (or person, for that matter. Very few people claim to be as antisocial, unsympathetic and narcissistic as you've described, just saying [it's still fascinating nonetheless ]). damn that is harsh. I would hate to know what you really think of me. Remind me not to get on your bad side..
OnyxSnowfall Posted October 31, 2011 Posted October 31, 2011 (edited) damn that is harsh. I would hate to know what you really think of me. Remind me not to get on your bad side.. I'm just being blunt in this case, not trying to be harsh. If I was trying to be harsh I would have referred to her as miss :B She's stated herself she's vain and doesn't care for others nor to grasp them and prefers being alone, doesn't like most people etc etc etc etc etc. Also, I haven't formed an "internet impression" of you yet lawl... but you may want to recant that study , or provide one that supports my stance in addition to it (not serious ) Edited October 31, 2011 by OnyxSnowfall
TheBigQuestion Posted October 31, 2011 Posted October 31, 2011 I think both this thread and its counterpart are getting increasingly worthless. History is repeating itself. For a very long time, there were no threads at all on this particular subsection of LS that had long, drawn out discussions about porn and its negative effects. I assume that Disenchantedly Yours is the same person that used to post here around 18 months ago known as "Jersey Shortie." Both posters had an obsession with the "degrading" nature of porn and a tendency towards misspelling the simplest of words and otherwise butchering the English language. It's no coincidence that upon her return, male porn use has once again become the hot topic du jour. Even if that assumption is wrong, it doesn't make her contributions to this forum any less ridiculous. See, for example, every time she accused my girlfriend of being manipulated or naive just because the circumstances under which we "courted" did not involve me spending much money on her before mutual commitment. I can tell you how this movie is going to end. DY will continue to make completely unfounded inferences from any statement a male makes that disagrees with her position. She has and will continue to spew utterly illogical drivel such as saying "You think all women are just garbage!!!!!!!11!!!" to any male who defends his own porn use. A handful of female and maybe one or two male posters will agree with her position. A majority of LS posters from both genders will ignore the porn threads like the plague because the discussion has been done to death. There's even a chance that some anti-porn females will decide that her argumentation is just too shrill and hysterical to be taken seriously. Eventually, the threads will die, people will stop listening, and DY will scurry back to whatever cave she was hibernating in all this time. I give her credit though, because she both directly and indirectly admits that her internet anti-porn crusade is largely motivated by her own insecurities. I can understand that, and I sympathize. What I cannot understand is her (or anyone's) style of argumentation, or her complete unwillingness to see past her insecurity. The bottom line is, whether porn is "harmful" or "beneficial" from a health perspective is HARDLY settled science. All we're doing at this point is using anecdotal evidence to generalize. DY and those in agreement with her apparently know a ton of relationships that have been broken apart by porn. Most people who I know who are in relationships admit to watching porn, and all but one of them have never made a stink about it (and that particular instance, which I described in my previous post in this thread, was completely unreasonable given the overall nature of their relationship).
Wolf18 Posted October 31, 2011 Posted October 31, 2011 (edited) For all you dumb horny guys who think women being obsessed with porn is a good thing, the opposite is true. If women didn't have porn, they would probably put out more often I'm a female and watch porn all the time. Ok, maybe I'm not the typical female but I like the rough degrading porn and will watch stuff like bondage, hogtied, bdsm, gangbang, double penetration, bukkake... Just about anything except fisting because that's not my thing. I see nothing wrong with it; I'm not a "moral" person, I am not religious. I don't care about what other women do because doesn't affect me. I am not a crazy feminist who believes women are degraded or whatever; some people really enjoy it. If they can get paid for it good for them. If they don't, well now my problem. I just watch. [/Quote] Double penetration, BDSM, bukkake... you must really hate yourself I used to get off real bad on rape porn and still have these fantasies, but you take it to the next level. A lot of people would probably find this to be outrageous , but I think I would still have a dominant sexual tendency with or without porn (as it is the male instinct). If porn didn't exist, I strongly doubt you would even be able to fathom "double penetration" or bukkake. 90% of people's sexuality is now defined by some vile pervert porn director which I think is pretty bad. A lot of things people do like ending a sexual experience with a "facial" (ejaculating on a womans face) or a billion other things are taken directly from porn, in fact I think even sodomy or golden showers (rofl) would not be on most people's minds were it not for smut. Really? You don't understand that? Okay, masturbating to porn versus bedding a stranger. Here is a list of things that a stranger may do that porn would never do: (1) Kill you; (2) Turn out to have some kind of weird, violent fetish that will turn the night into a nightmare and make it necessary to go to the emergency room the next morning; (3) Slip you a drug that will cause you long-term neurological damage; (4) Give you an STD; (5) Stalk you afterwards; (6) Rob you; (7) Film the encounter, then post it on Youtube; (8) Blabber about you on Facebook. [/Quote] Oh please woman, this is just stranger danger paranoia. The whole date-rape via GHB thing is mostly urban legend (most "date rapes" happen with plain ol alcohol), STD's are a factor but if you inspect the person first (for warts) and wear a condom, you'll be fine. You can't post porn on youtube, and unless the guy you pick up is some frat boy (wouldn't surprise me judging from the guys women surround at the bar), he's not going to blabber about it in public. All I'm saying is that if I was a woman and could get late by who ever and when ever I want I would think porn is a waste. Great, then don't YOU watch porn. To each his own, you know? [/Quote] Yeah, and what happens when a girl I thought was relationship material asks me to put a fist in her ass. Everything people do as "individuals" can have social consequences, porn is pure poison to be honest. Its decreased the libido of men (fast moving sexual images increase the tolerance in your brain to fill with dopamine, so it takes a lot more stimulus to become aroused by a woman), it's made both men and women into degenerates who would probably make Caligula blush, and it has sexualized the culture to no avail. I'm not going to argue that you should only do vanilla missionary, but when you're dreaming about getting gang banged and bukkake'd , I don't think any logical man would want you as a wife. Not a fan of the First Amendment, are you? Men and women who are paternalistically coddled and shielded from things some do-gooder deems offensive do far more to warp them sexually than the most explicit porn. What would you ban next? Books with happy endings? Movies with good-looking actors? Advertising? [/Quote] LOL! The first amendment? I pass the first amendment over my balls. It's a hollow concept that applies to everyone except the normal people. Yeah, you can make a video where you sh*t in someone's mouth and sell it to deviants for profit, but where is the First Amendment when you want to make politically incorrect comments about one of America's sacred cows? your first amendment goes out the damn window: http://www.theblaze.com/stories/l-a-teacher-loses-job-over-saying-zionist-jews-need-to-be-run-out-of-this-country/ http://www.examiner.com/libertarian-in-national/gay-advocates-want-nj-teacher-fired-for-anti-gay-facebook-postings I've never been coddled and my parents aren't do-gooders. In fact, I've been around the block, done the drugs, had the sex, been in jail, drank the liquor (still do it), I've done all the "enlightening" things do-gooders would look down on. I still do some of them. Last thing I am, in fact, is a damn do-gooder. However, you don't need to be a do-gooder to realize that sticking your penis in a place where feces comes out is disgusting. Would you share a drink with someone who had dog **** for breakfast? So why would you want to share anything with someone who does ass-to-mouth? You don't need to be a puritan to realize that anyone who enjoys men lining up to blow their yogurt on her face one after the other has a few screws loose. And one definitely doesn't have to be a do-gooder to realize that someone whose into getting gang banged is unfit to raise my (and anyone elses) future children, and completely unworthy of respect. I suppose you have a right to be as sick and degenerated as you want, my gripe is with people like you who try to justify it as normal . It isn't, and pornography (combined with all the idle time the average person has) unlocks parts of the human mind (people who eat toilet paper, cross dressers, fans of bukkake) that we would be better off without. Edited November 1, 2011 by Wolf18
Floridaman Posted November 1, 2011 Posted November 1, 2011 Most porn is boring because there is no story line. The real deal is always better than porn. Porn can become an addiction. Wives of porn addicts suffer a lot. If you need porn you have no IMAGINATION. As always, well-stated, Pierre. Odds are that the vast majority of men I'd say 99% on this forum and a good number of women watch porn. But they don't feel the need to make an argument why they should keep being allowed to do so. Agree that most men have tried or used porn. Many feel its wrong, though. Because many indulge in something wrong or immoral, doesn't make the wrong more right. Why do you need porn to masturbate? Did you not masturbate before you had access to porn? I certainly did! I don't need it to MB either. My imagination is enough for me. I'm not anti-porn, but this kind of dependence on porn has to affect a person. Porn can be part of a healthy sexual "diet", but it should be a small part--like chocolate cake can be a small part of an overall healthy diet. Porn is a cheat. It's instant gratification. It's TOO easy. Indulge too much, and it will affect your ability to use your own imagination, and fully appreciate a real woman. It happens all the time. It is like the 6 yo who is addicted to tv, and doesn't know how to entertain himself. Or the adult who loves salty, fatty fast food, and no longer appreciates the taste of a healthier meal. Good points too. As a former porn user, have been free of the habit since last fall. About to make it 1 year porn-free (with only a couple of slip-ups). Several times, while getting ready to MB, thought I'd look at "a little" porn to get me there quicker. Found I didn't need it so didn't proceed visiting such sites. Not gonna condemn anyone for using porn, just giving my advice on why I don't think it's such a great idea.
Cindy P Posted November 1, 2011 Posted November 1, 2011 If the women in the porn,or just the porn in general turns you on more than your girlfirend....you need to part ways. I lived with a man for 12 years that watched porn and it was definately a major contributor to the death of the relationship.
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