Eve Posted October 28, 2011 Posted October 28, 2011 I think she could just be a bad dater. At least make the call and see. She could be a bit ditzy or awkward and may open up once she gets to know you a bit more. Just be honest with her and see what happens. I hope you find someone who you can joke with about the topics raised and they will just get what you are saying and everything just works out, nicely. Take care, Eve x
oaks Posted October 28, 2011 Posted October 28, 2011 OP, IMO, women will move mountains to encourage a man they're attracted to. BTDT enough to know it, and the reverse; even a 'shy' woman. This is a good enough reason for first dates/meets to be casual and low cost, especially resulting from OLD encounters. Ask a few more and compare. The one who moves mountains will be obvious. Of course, we won't see a thread about her. Carhill is wise. Women who are interested will make sure you know it. If you're not happy to take advice from strangers on the Internet then call her - it won't take much of your time.
PlumPrincess Posted October 28, 2011 Posted October 28, 2011 I'm thinking i'm going to call her again and just assume she won't return it. I mean what do I have to lose? I'll never see her again. Thats one of the few positives about online dating. Plus i've never been turned down for a second date so I'm making the bet that she just is a bad dater. The best way to find out is to ask. And should you realize that you were wrong, you gained a valuable experience (hey, rejection sucks, but you can also see it from a positive side, you're a tiny little bit smarter than before). I'm one of these people who do stupid things over and over again although people tell me not to, although reason tells me not to, but I always have this nagging thought inside of me that wants certainty. I can now comfortably say, I'm not going to ask men out anymore. The kind of guy I like does not want to be asked out by women or not by me or whatever, in any case, it doesn't work for me. If a guy is into me, he will make some move. If he doesn't do anything, he's either in a relationship or not interested.
PlumPrincess Posted October 28, 2011 Posted October 28, 2011 I don't think you owe anybody a hug because they paid for your meal. It's a nice gesture when a guy pays for my meal, but that doesn't mean that I will have to express my gratitude in any physical way, how insignificant it may appear.
somedude81 Posted October 28, 2011 Posted October 28, 2011 OK, lets assume she hugged you, thank you and took her wallet out. Does that change anything? It seems she was not into you, Better to know right away than to leave you wandering. Why did you expect her to pay? That is quite awkward. Actually it would have changed things. I would have thought she had class and was into me. I didn't expect her to pay, just to offer to be polite. She actually did leave me wondering, which is why I am posting on here. I mean the date was not bad. I think she is just a bad dater and that is why she is using online dating. I'm using it also, but I don't have any other ways to meet women outside of bars. It seemed like she had a large social network and college to met guys through. I hope you weren't waiting for her to make the first gestures for a hug. As a man, it's your job to make that first move. Getting a hug on hello is basically expected. And if by chance she rejected the hug then you can have an idea on how the date is going to to.
dispatch3d Posted October 28, 2011 Posted October 28, 2011 Stop reading into everything. Call her again. Also lol to the replies in this thread about common courtesy and on and on and on holy crap guys.
Untouchable_Fire Posted October 28, 2011 Posted October 28, 2011 She sounds like an entitled bitch then if she can't even say thank you for a meal. Maybe she is interested. From what the OP said, it doesn't sound like it. I don't give "fake" hugs. When a guy is a gentlemen and takes me out for a dinner, weather I'm interested or not, I hug him. What's wrong with that? Doesn't mean I'm fake. If the guy is a complete douchebag, then he's not getting a hug. Simple as that. There's nothing wrong with not being interested in someone but still being nice enough to give them a parting hug and a thank you. The worst thing that could happen to OP is REJECTION!! If he's ok with rejection, then go for it and call her. My guess is she's going to say, "I wasn't feeling a connection" or I'm not intrested." It's like you have never met a woman before. They come in all shapes and sizes... and that goes for attitude too. Most truly entitled bitches that I have dated act very nice and polite up front. Women who bordered on blunt and rude often were just tough on the outside. Of course he is Ok with rejection! What kind of man cowers in fear of being turned down? Look, when you are a male learning to make rejection an old friend is essential. We bear all of the upfront costs of relationships. I'm thinking i'm going to call her again and just assume she won't return it. I mean what do I have to lose? I'll never see her again. Thats one of the few positives about online dating. Plus i've never been turned down for a second date so I'm making the bet that she just is a bad dater. Seriously... persistence pays! I've had women that were not initially attracted to me, who eventually went head over heels after I kept trying.
ShannonMI Posted October 28, 2011 Posted October 28, 2011 It's like you have never met a woman before. They come in all shapes and sizes... and that goes for attitude too. Most truly entitled bitches that I have dated act very nice and polite up front. Women who bordered on blunt and rude often were just tough on the outside. Of course he is Ok with rejection! What kind of man cowers in fear of being turned down? Look, when you are a male learning to make rejection an old friend is essential. We bear all of the upfront costs of relationships. Seriously... persistence pays! I've had women that were not initially attracted to me, who eventually went head over heels after I kept trying. I've met a lot of women in my day and I have to say I don't like many of them. For various reasons. I realize there are all sorts of different people out there. Not thanking someone who paid for your meal is rude in my book, but apparently I don't know what I'm talking about. Hahahahahahaha persistence does pay when the person you are pursuing is interested. If she's not, then she may think you are a stalker and can't take a hint. Hints such as: not giving you a friendly hug or thanking you for the dinner you paid for. If she rejects you when you call a second time, let it go and move on.
Author henderson14 Posted October 29, 2011 Author Posted October 29, 2011 Some of these posters are pissing me off. Now I'm going to call her and try to get another date just to spite some of you. Who cares if she doesn't return it. And I've never been called a stalker. From past experience, when I continue to pursue a girl it usually pays off.
PhillyDude Posted October 29, 2011 Posted October 29, 2011 Women do not use men they're not interested in for a free meal. I suspect she was interested from their online interaction, but upon meeting and talking over dinner, changed her mind. It happens in the gross majority of online dates. Excuse me???? Women don't do what??????????? I been used for a free meal a few years ago when it was originally a coffee date and she asked was I hungry and like a fool I thought she wanted to spend more time with me not realizing she wanted a free meal lol
PhillyDude Posted October 29, 2011 Posted October 29, 2011 Some of these posters are pissing me off. Now I'm going to call her and try to get another date just to spite some of you. Who cares if she doesn't return it. And I've never been called a stalker. From past experience, when I continue to pursue a girl it usually pays off. The best way to find out if s girl is interested after the 1st date is text her on the way home or when you get home. If she responds then it's a good chance she is interested. One of the easiest things to do on this planet is to IGNORE A TEXT LOL
alphamale Posted October 29, 2011 Posted October 29, 2011 One of the easiest things to do on this planet is to IGNORE A TEXT LOL really?? I do it all the time
PhillyDude Posted October 29, 2011 Posted October 29, 2011 really?? I do it all the time That's what I said, if a guy sends a girl a text after the date or 2 hours after the date it's very easy for her to ignore it. Which is why I said that's a good way to see if she is interested in going on another date.
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