superchiefs Posted October 21, 2011 Posted October 21, 2011 I have heard of lots of ways to make a living, but I recently had a conversation with a woman that makes her living by marrying men, taking half of their assets and then moving on to the next. This seems rather ridiculous to me. I have also had numerous discussions with divorced people about marriage and the general consensous from them is that marriage was the worst thing they ever experienced and some went as far as saying that it should be outlawed. Another thing I am curious about, why has the divorce rate gone up so much over the past several years? Is it because people dont really pay attention to their vows when they promise to spend the rest of their lives together?
PegNosePete Posted October 21, 2011 Posted October 21, 2011 Would it not make sense to reform divorce laws rather than banning marriage? Here in the UK what you describe is not possible, you do not instantly get half of your spouse's assets. In a short marriage both parties take out what they brought in. As for discussing marriage with divorced people well what did you expect? If you discussed marriage with happily married people they would probably tell you a different story completely. Same applies to anything. Ask someone who lost a million on the stock market and they will tell you it was the worst thing they ever did. Ask someone who made a million, it's the best thing they ever did. Duh.
Glove_slap Posted October 21, 2011 Posted October 21, 2011 not outlawed but reformed. there's a reason we have marriage and that's because it's the most stable form of passing on our genetics and continuing the survival of the human race. it took us centuries of trial and error to end up with the institute of marriage but like all things...marriage needs some ****ing reforms.. -__- Women like that are leeches, one of the reason I find it hard to trust them now because to a certain extent almost all women are the same.... except my mommy i wuv her
Woggle Posted October 21, 2011 Posted October 21, 2011 We should just get the law out of it and make it an agreement between people that the courts have no involvement with.
vsmini Posted October 21, 2011 Posted October 21, 2011 I have also had numerous discussions with divorced people about marriage and the general consensous from them is that marriage was the worst thing they ever experienced and some went as far as saying that it should be outlawed. I like how these people say that marriage was the worst thing that happened to them as if it was brought on them by force. Why should it be outlawed? That's what I would ask them - it's not marriage the ruins things...it is the two people in the relationship and how they were towards each other that made it a bad experience. Marriage isn't some deadly poison that infiltrates a home and ruins relationships. It's not a bad idea for the people that believe in marriage and want to enter into one with each other. Some people know a marriage will be hell at some periods in their lives but they are willing to try and get through it because they want that companionship when they raise children and grow old. Others get married with the best intentions but it gets too difficult and they want out. To each their own.
Woggle Posted October 21, 2011 Posted October 21, 2011 It might not have been brought on by force but there is a lot of false advertising when it comes to marriage.
vsmini Posted October 21, 2011 Posted October 21, 2011 It might not have been brought on by force but there is a lot of false advertising when it comes to marriage. I don't know about that. As someone who is seriously considering getting married right now I don't feel like I've got rose-colored glasses on. I know it's impossible to understand until you are in it and it is a constant learning process about yourself, the other person and the relationship but I feel pretty confident in the fact that I can expect it to get pretty rough, tough and grueling sometimes. I've never been married. What do you mean by false advertising? Because I would assume anyone with 1/2 a brain can see through that said advertising. Unless I'm the dim one
Metis Posted October 22, 2011 Posted October 22, 2011 Superchiefs: Ordinarily, I take what people say at face value, but this story sounds less like what someone told you and more like a movie. A silly movie, in fact. Probably one with Susan Sarandon and Jennifer Love Hewitt in it. I don't know about other countries, but in the US, "taking half his stuff" isn't actually the reality. You often hear this expression from people who have conveniently forgotten that "his stuff" was bought with half her money. In any event, pre-marital property isn't subject to distribution in divorce, the divorce process itself is really long and complicated (particularly when there is a lot of property involved), and if it is a marriage of short duration, courts generally have people walk away with whatever they came into the marriage with. Unless the husband is a celebrity and there is some hugely embarrassing revelation at stake (although to be honest, is there any kind of embarrassment these days that a good PR agent can't handle?), I really don't see a woman marrying a man, then quickly divorcing him and taking half his property, or any significant fraction of it. I can imagine a situation where a well-heeled man would be willing to pay "nuisance" to save on legal costs -- though this very rarely happens in divorce -- but even relying on this highly unlikely possibility, it's still a very lousy way to make money. Think about it. You have to meet the guy, date him, enter a long term relationship and somehow "get" him to marry you. That takes what, a couple of years, at least? Then you have to live with him, I would say, for at least a year in order to avoid the risk of a straight-up annulment. Then once you start the divorce proceedings, one where you want to get a chunk of his property, would take another couple of years, at least. So now, we are 5 years into this "project". She can't get "half his property" anyway, so how much is "nuisance value"? 50K, give or take? That's 10K per year -- less, in fact, if you take present value into account. Geez, she'd make more money answering phones. And given how much time is involved (plus additional time that you spend on long-term relationships that don't lead to marriage), how many times over can this woman really do it? Sorry, OP, but Hollywood movies aren't a good source of info on the state of divorce law in this country.
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