The Tiger Posted October 21, 2011 Posted October 21, 2011 Wow, calm the **** down dude. Stay out of a thread if you can't have a discussion without losing your head. Religion/Atheism is not even the subject of this thread. I'm pretty sure there's an off topic section somewhere in this forum.
ChessPieceFace Posted October 21, 2011 Posted October 21, 2011 Wow, calm the **** down dude. Stay out of a thread if you can't have a discussion without losing your head. Religion/Atheism is not even the subject of this thread. The atheists made it the topic when they chimed in to collectively slander all faith and religion. Since that action was unopposed by anyone else, here we are. The OP asked "why" and I also answered that previously, so feel free to respond to that on-topic question or response. I also addressed the OP's topic specifically, once again, at the end of my last post.
AHardDaysNight Posted October 21, 2011 Posted October 21, 2011 I don't think a person's clothing reveals whether or not they're a Christian. I have a t shirt that says "I got this shirt for my girlfriend...nice trade." Keep in mind that I've never had a girlfriend. Does that suddenly make me a hypocrite? Also, a lot of women don't see the clothing they wear as being slutty, or...whatever. If they have a nice body, they view fashion as creativity, and being fashionable for women does require a lot of body showing off. That doesn't necessarily mean that they don't believe in God. Just leave God out of it. If you have a problem with the way these women dress, then just don't approach them! And since you aren't "Christian and serious about it", perhaps they're the wrong women for you?
bigguy02 Posted October 21, 2011 Posted October 21, 2011 Religion is "happening" apparently? Religion has been around for thousands of years. What's "happening" to humanity right now is the general erosion of all moral and ethical principles. But, bottom line -- atheists never EVER listen. Thus, you are not worth talking to. I'm just popping in to tell you how wrong you are. I hope that feeds your constant bitterness, cause that's all you deserve for your life choice. Sadly you assumed im a atheists. I have an idea of what a "god" might be, I just feel strongly aginst an abrahamic god, and its associated relgions. Also The Flying Spaghetti Monster makes clames that are just as valid as any other god. I am very willing to listen to any argument you have other wise.
orion1010 Posted October 21, 2011 Posted October 21, 2011 (edited) people are so judgemental when it comes to religion... Edited October 21, 2011 by orion1010
OnyxSnowfall Posted October 21, 2011 Posted October 21, 2011 Goodness what is going on in here? By the way, I like the yummy coffee avatar *drools* (Chess, I know you're really delusional and you won't believe me but... the difference between you and what you're raging against is... minimal )
orion1010 Posted October 21, 2011 Posted October 21, 2011 The atheists made it the topic when they chimed in to collectively slander all faith and religion. Since that action was unopposed by anyone else, here we are. The OP asked "why" and I also answered that previously, so feel free to respond to that on-topic question or response. I also addressed the OP's topic specifically, once again, at the end of my last post. What's your problem with atheists? Is it that they don't believe what you do? They don't believe in a God and you need to respect that. There is nothing you can do about it and there is nothing wrong with what they believe in. You need to open yourself up to other cultures and what other people believe in instead of being judgmental claiming they "slander all faith and religion." Who's religion? Yours? If you're so religions and believe in a "God" aren't you committing a sin being so judgemental towards them? To each their own. A person's worth is not what they believe in but how they treat others, their ethics, and love for humanity. You're going too far with your atheist crap. Have you lived a sheltered life and not experienced the chance to visit synagougues (Judaism) or a Mosque (Allah) or any other house of worship or at least respectfully talked with anyone who thinks differently than you? Well I have. I won't tell you my personal religion bt I havehad the honor to visit many different "house of worship" and afterward, sit and feast with some of these people afterwards and it was the most rewarding. I respect everyones beliefs, including atheists. To me, religion is romantic. Everyone believes in a higher power but just calls their "God" something different. Atheists are no different and should not be looked down upon. Grow up. Open your mind and be a little more respectful to others. Or you are doomed to ignorance the rest of your life. You don't have to believe in what everyone else does, bu at least respect how they feel when it comes to religion and don't look down upon them because you think you or what you believe in is superior. There is never a "better" but difference of beliefs. We are all human so let's act like it.
KathyM Posted October 21, 2011 Posted October 21, 2011 Does anyone who use OkCupid notice this? Let's of the extremely hot girls put "Christian and serious about it" on their "religion" tab on their profile, but these girls are wearing mini-skirts and cocktail dresses in nightclubs in their photos. Is this a trick or something? A deterrent against guys who're looking for an easy hookup or something? These women take their religion seriously and they are looking for men who do also. It's not a trick. The fact that they wear mini skirts or cocktail dresses doesn't mean they are not religious. Christians wear stylish clothes also. Attractive clothes. They may be Christian, but they still want to look attractive. They also go dancing and to nightclubs sometimes. Nothing wrong with that. Did you think they should wear burkas or something?
ChessPieceFace Posted October 21, 2011 Posted October 21, 2011 (Chess, I know you're really delusional and you won't believe me but... the difference between you and what you're raging against is... minimal ) Without dignifying yet another personal attack on me, this fact remains: The difference between atheists coming into this thread to openly slander and mock religion and faith, and me subsequently defending religion and faith, is enormous. It's sad you don't realize that. What's your problem with atheists? I actually don't have ANY problem with atheists who leave people alone. I do have a problem with atheists who openly mock religion and faith, which is why my comments were directed at those kinds of atheists. In my experience, though, and in my analysis of atheism I have come to see that most atheists are in fact this way, and it is an inherent byproduct of their depressing worldview. They want to spread their own unhappiness with life by destroying the faith and joy of others, since those are things they can never truly have. Their self-worth is also largely based on their supposed intellectual superiority over the "stupid religious idiots", thus having a mass group troll against religion is a very common occurrence on many forums. This is the main way that atheists get together as a group to reinforce their shared belief system - by attacking the belief systems of others, rather than having ANYTHING of value in their own. These women take their religion seriously and they are looking for men who do also. It's not a trick. The fact that they wear mini skirts or cocktail dresses doesn't mean they are not religious. Christians wear stylish clothes also. Attractive clothes. They may be Christian, but they still want to look attractive. They also go dancing and to nightclubs sometimes. Nothing wrong with that. Did you think they should wear burkas or something? Agreed. However, I still find it questionable to have those kinds of profile pics. _I_ certainly wouldn't want those kinds of pics on my profile, because I wouldn't feel they were representative of who I am. Also, most (not all) of the real Christians I know would feel similarly. So to me, the pics are an INDICATION that maybe something is off in the integrity of their beliefs. But, it's not proof. It's not as if they have pictures of an orgy...
OnyxSnowfall Posted October 21, 2011 Posted October 21, 2011 (edited) Without dignifying yet another personal attack on me, this fact remains: The difference between atheists coming into this thread to openly slander and mock religion and faith, and me subsequently defending religion and faith, is enormous. It's sad you don't realize that. Slandering "slanderers" is the way to go, yep... somehow that makes you a more tolerant person, I agree. Also, I am not an atheist... but I can't seem to fit my idea of God into any kind of constructed religion, nor can I seem to believe I am capable of even fully (closely?) perceiving God --- Regardless, if a belief or value is swayed by this horrible "slandering" that was done... it was never strong to begin with, and deserved to fall. But often times such oppositions serve to "strengthen" them... whether they're true or not. (Many people would do well to question their beliefs more thoroughly... regardless...) Edited October 21, 2011 by OnyxSnowfall
KathyM Posted October 21, 2011 Posted October 21, 2011 Without dignifying yet another personal attack on me, this fact remains: The difference between atheists coming into this thread to openly slander and mock religion and faith, and me subsequently defending religion and faith, is enormous. It's sad you don't realize that. I actually don't have ANY problem with atheists who leave people alone. I do have a problem with atheists who openly mock religion and faith, which is why my comments were directed at those kinds of atheists. In my experience, though, and in my analysis of atheism I have come to see that most atheists are in fact this way, and it is an inherent byproduct of their depressing worldview. They want to spread their own unhappiness with life by destroying the faith and joy of others, since those are things they can never truly have. Their self-worth is also largely based on their supposed intellectual superiority over the "stupid religious idiots", thus having a mass group troll against religion is a very common occurrence on many forums. This is the main way that atheists get together as a group to reinforce their shared belief system - by attacking the belief systems of others, rather than having ANYTHING of value in their own. Agreed. However, I still find it questionable to have those kinds of profile pics. _I_ certainly wouldn't want those kinds of pics on my profile, because I wouldn't feel they were representative of who I am. Also, most (not all) of the real Christians I know would feel similarly. So to me, the pics are an INDICATION that maybe something is off in the integrity of their beliefs. But, it's not proof. It's not as if they have pictures of an orgy... I guess it depends on how extreme their clothing is. If they're dressing very provacatively on a dating profile and then claiming to want a serious Christian, then I would agree that something is off there. But mini skirts and cocktail dresses are not necessarily too outrageous. It depends on the dress.
ChessPieceFace Posted October 21, 2011 Posted October 21, 2011 Slandering "slanderers" is the way to go, yep... somehow that makes you a more tolerant person, I agree. Red herring. I have not claimed, and would never claim to be tolerant. I am in fact very intolerant of things that are ethically wrong. Such as people coming onto threads, unprovoked, with the purpose of slandering and mocking others. Also, I am not an atheist... but I can't seem to fit my idea of God into any kind of constructed religion, nor can I seem to believe I am capable of even fully (closely?) perceiving God --- That's good, you are an independent thinker and are open to possibilities. If the militant atheists who trolled this thread were like that, we wouldn't be having an issue right now. Regardless, if a belief or value is swayed by this horrible "slandering" that was done... it was never strong to begin with, and deserved to fall. But often times such oppositions serve to "strengthen" them... whether they're true or not. I don't know whether screaming at atheists behaving poorly would help or harm the faith of any individual. That's out of my control. But I do know that when I see wrong being done, like the behavior I so eloquently described in my previous post, I confront it.
Jynxx Posted October 21, 2011 Posted October 21, 2011 Except by naming "spaghetti monster" you reveal that you are another hateful, condescending atheist who equates all religious ideas of god and a universal creator to the most ridiculous thing atheists made up, for the sole purpose of mocking people. Yeah you caught me, I'm an atheist. But how is saying I don't care if people believe in something ridiculous insulting to everyone who believes in something? I couldn't care less if any outspoken atheists continued breathing. And I mean that sincerely, it's from the heart. I think we're even now. By the way, I'm not religious so good luck painting that on a religion. Simply put -- I'm just better than you. You're not religious and you wish every atheist dies? Suicidal much? Like you infest threads to inflict your atheism on people? "OHH they brought up religion in this thread HAHAHA it's time to troll!! Fellow atheists, unite! Let's mock these suckers!" Truly pathetic. I read a thread, I want to add my opinion to it, I do so. That's what happens on a forum. If you can't stand the heat, get out of the kitchen.
thatone Posted October 21, 2011 Posted October 21, 2011 "i'm better than you". sums it up pretty well. isn't it great to have a lot of people around to tell you that you're right no matter how wrong you are? as long as you don't value honesty nearly as much, anyway.
grkBoy Posted October 21, 2011 Posted October 21, 2011 Does anyone who use OkCupid notice this? Let's of the extremely hot girls put "Christian and serious about it" on their "religion" tab on their profile, but these girls are wearing mini-skirts and cocktail dresses in nightclubs in their photos. Is this a trick or something? A deterrent against guys who're looking for an easy hookup or something? Some of them I think do it simply because they really are devout Christians. Many others simply are Christians, but want to put a message that says "I don't put out easily...so move on if you're seeking a hookup." Regardless, the biggest mistake many men make is they think the "Christian" woman is suddenly this sweet "good girl" who will date a bland average looking guy or even the ugly guy...because he's a Christian. I believe they still want a "good looking guy" as much as the other women simply based on how many Average Joes popped up on these boards complaining how the "Christian" woman rejected them, or how they saw the "Christian" woman out getting hammered and making out with some douchebag.
Cypress25 Posted October 22, 2011 Posted October 22, 2011 There's a lot of people who don't practice what they preach, and a lot of girls are easy despite the fact that they're religious. A girl isn't easy just because she wears a mini skirt.
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