ShannonMI Posted October 19, 2011 Posted October 19, 2011 I honestly think it depends on the guy you're asking. Guys that associate female traits like independence and being opinionated with being a bitch might tend to be insecure and require some sort of control or superiority in their lives. They may not get to experience that control or "superiority" because they either dont believe in themselves or just legitimately suck at life. Therefore, he seeks that from weak-willed women. If a woman challenges him with her own sense of self, then he labels her a bitch, because he feels like less of a man. Mere speculation... Could very well be the case. I haven't read this bitch book, so I wonder what the author's definition of a bitch is. A bitch is also a female dog. And who doesn't love dogs?:laugh:
mr_sexxxy Posted October 19, 2011 Posted October 19, 2011 I know several, more than several men, who are in relationships with emotionally abusive, manipulative women. These guys have very low self-esteem and don't think they can be in a relationship with another woman. The females in these relationships get off on the power they have other their "man."
AHardDaysNight Posted October 19, 2011 Posted October 19, 2011 Anybody that likes someone that is mean and cruel, regardless of gender, is not a good person.
ShannonMI Posted October 19, 2011 Posted October 19, 2011 I know several, more than several men, who are in relationships with emotionally abusive, manipulative women. These guys have very low self-esteem and don't think they can be in a relationship with another woman. The females in these relationships get off on the power they have other their "man." Ok so that was USMCHokie's theory. Could very well be men who love bitches are lacking in the self esteem and testicle department:laugh:
USMCHokie Posted October 19, 2011 Posted October 19, 2011 Ok so that was USMCHokie's theory. Could very well be men who love bitches are lacking in the self esteem and testicle department:laugh: Not exactly...take my "theory" and switch the genders, where the woman is the insecure one who lacks control in her otherwise unremarkable life and preys on weak-willed men.
coolheadal Posted October 19, 2011 Posted October 19, 2011 Stuck with a B- woman is the worst type of the woman you could be with. I had that sort of woman for 13 years. Now I don't have that type to deal with ever again. Funny her brothers won't even go after such woman like there sister either. I guess it what goes around comes around today. If you want a woman to tell you what to do daily, how to eat, dress and etc.. Then get a B- woman and you'll be stuck with her until you figure out what your dealing with.
Sugarkane Posted October 19, 2011 Posted October 19, 2011 I completely agree with Jane100. It's about being assertive not a man hater or ball breaker! If you think men don't like bitches, how come my ex dumped me for not being assertive enough?
alphamale Posted October 19, 2011 Posted October 19, 2011 I personally don't think men love a bitch. I think it's the opposite. I think men love a woman who is her own person, has her own life, respects herself and him, and can challenge him in a healthy way, for example in a conversation, or healthy debat... I think many men like women that have the potential to be a bitch one day and then a saint the next day... Your posts never fail to crack me up:laugh:
thatone Posted October 19, 2011 Posted October 19, 2011 I completely agree with Jane100. It's about being assertive not a man hater or ball breaker! If you think men don't like bitches, how come my ex dumped me for not being assertive enough? you don't have to be a bitch to be assertive.
SingleinSouth Posted October 19, 2011 Posted October 19, 2011 you don't have to be a bitch to be assertive. I like you so much!
SWAN808 Posted October 20, 2011 Posted October 20, 2011 not read all the thread - just dropping in to say - I do NOT love Bitches. I really dislike them. Sure - there may be a small amount of initial attraction caused by the aloof attitude - but personally I quickly see through that and find it unattractive. I really like a nice, kind and caring girl.
Ruby Slippers Posted October 20, 2011 Posted October 20, 2011 The title is over the top for marketing purposes. The author isn't actually advocating being a bitch -- she's advocating being a self-reliant woman with your own life whose every decision doesn't revolve around what your man wants. Kind of the "No More Mr. Nice Guy" for women. Not every bit of the advice is great, but the basic message is a good one.
simpsonic Posted October 20, 2011 Posted October 20, 2011 The title is over the top for marketing purposes. The author isn't actually advocating being a bitch -- she's advocating being a self-reliant woman with your own life whose every decision doesn't revolve around what your man wants. Kind of the "No More Mr. Nice Guy" for women. Not every bit of the advice is great, but the basic message is a good one. The author says that the word "bitch" derives from the first letters in the following phrase: Babe In Total Control of Herself. And yes, this is exactly what she is advocating.
SWAN808 Posted October 20, 2011 Posted October 20, 2011 The author says that the word "bitch" derives from the first letters in the following phrase: Babe In Total Control of Herself. And yes, this is exactly what she is advocating. are right. stupid name. yes obviously a marketing trick.
BeyondtheClouds Posted October 20, 2011 Posted October 20, 2011 I think many men like women that have the potential to be a bitch one day and then a saint the next day... Could you elaborate for us?
ShannonMI Posted October 20, 2011 Posted October 20, 2011 Could you elaborate for us? I think what he means is every woman has the potential to be a bitch. Even the women who are otherwise nice and easy going. I agree with that. I'm usually a very nice, laid back person, but when my buttons are pushed or when I'm on the rag, I turn into a f*cking psycho bitch. It just comes out of me. As many women can relate to, I'm sure.
vsmini Posted October 20, 2011 Posted October 20, 2011 I was so into this book when I was in my last relationship around 2 years ago. I thought the advice was great and it worked! Why did it work? Because I was dating an emotionally unavailable jergoff who responded to half the games this book recommends you play. Now I'm in a healthy relationship with a guy that loves me and doesn't have me resort to self-help sections. Good lord I'm glad that's over. Yea - I used to be a fan but in retrospect I think the book doesn't help those in bad relationships - mostly just delay the inevitable.
thatone Posted October 20, 2011 Posted October 20, 2011 I was so into this book when I was in my last relationship around 2 years ago. I thought the advice was great and it worked! Why did it work? Because I was dating an emotionally unavailable jergoff who responded to half the games this book recommends you play. Now I'm in a healthy relationship with a guy that loves me and doesn't have me resort to self-help sections. Good lord I'm glad that's over. Yea - I used to be a fan but in retrospect I think the book doesn't help those in bad relationships - mostly just delay the inevitable. exactly correct, imo.
Woggle Posted October 20, 2011 Posted October 20, 2011 I was so into this book when I was in my last relationship around 2 years ago. I thought the advice was great and it worked! Why did it work? Because I was dating an emotionally unavailable jergoff who responded to half the games this book recommends you play. Now I'm in a healthy relationship with a guy that loves me and doesn't have me resort to self-help sections. Good lord I'm glad that's over. Yea - I used to be a fan but in retrospect I think the book doesn't help those in bad relationships - mostly just delay the inevitable. Exactly. It does do anything to help a person find a healthy relationship.
nofool4u Posted October 20, 2011 Posted October 20, 2011 Hey! So, in my last thread, I talked about a book I read called "Why Men Love Bitches" by Sherry Argov. I've been getting lots of mixed feedback about the book. Parts of it I LOVED and other parts just left me completely confused. Opinions, if you've read it? The only "b!tch" that I was with was the one I married and divorced. Too many men, like women, go for the adonis, the goddess....at least in the realm of looks anyway. With people like that, its looks first, personality 2nd. And the personality can be severely lacking and a man or woman will go for that person anyway because they look good. then they b!tch whine and moan afterwards about how they can't find a good man/woman. Sure, attractions is what gets the ball rolling. but I've never had to have the perfect face/body, etc. I actually am attracted to women who don't look like supermodels. I get to know them, then develop a relationship if I think they aren't superficial beyotches. and when I say that, its not to imply I'm not attractive. I think I'm quite attractive and keep myself fit. but most superficial people are continually looking for the bigger, better deal.
Mrlonelyone Posted October 20, 2011 Posted October 20, 2011 I think it needs to be said that this sort of book is not for emotionally mature adults seeking other emotionally mature adults. This sort of book is for wallflower women who need to, instead of waiting to be asked to dance, need to go and ask a man to dance with them. Young immature people are attracted to shiny things, flashing lights, and loud noises. They are like babies with money, sexual maturity and a drivers license. To such men a *ithcy woman who's attractive gets their attention and so has a shot at getting their romantic attention. A woman who's not *itchy is boring to such men. Yes young immature men can be just as bad as young immature women when it comes to judging character.
betterdeal Posted October 21, 2011 Posted October 21, 2011 Hmm. There are many reasons to like a bitchy woman. One, it's easy to not fall in love with her and maybe you're not in the mood for a long term relationship but rather you want to work out some energy and have tempestuous sex for the moment. Two, they're real, apparent, immediate, in the here and now. Time flies and the world stands still in their company because they are so present they fill the room. They minds, bodies and souls are working in perfect harmony to convey what they are at that time. Three, just like their bad boy counterparts, it does what it says on the tin. This is someone who plays by their own rules and is fearless in many respects. Who wouldn't want a slice of that? To tap into that wildness, to have that untamed raw energy coursing through their own veins. When upset, they show it. When aroused, they show it. They are their feelings. It's a call to the wild. Four, they're not like out mothers, and who wants to date their mother? Five, they are actively selling their goods. It's on display, in public, they're on the market. They are available. That's just for starters. There's loads of reasons.
OnyxSnowfall Posted October 21, 2011 Posted October 21, 2011 (edited) Well I asked my boyfriend why he still stays with me / loves me and one of his answers was: "Because it's more meaningful when I finally do please you, and I know it's genuine" Poor guy... Edited October 21, 2011 by OnyxSnowfall
Woggle Posted October 21, 2011 Posted October 21, 2011 Many of these types of women are really as soft as a jellyfish underneath that hard exterior. Most of the time it's just a suit of armor they wear in front of the world. I find that the women who on the surface seem very nice and sweet often have the most inner strength.
Ascension Posted October 21, 2011 Posted October 21, 2011 I dunno what most of you would define a bitch as, but a bitch is a bitch to me. I never heard of that book, but I'd probably be inclined to disagree. I wouldn't want a relationship with a bitch. Likewise, I wouldn't want a bitch as a pet, a dog that constantly barks and bites. I will say this though, and that is that ****ing a bitch is probably one of the greatest feelings because it's like a power thing, you're putting her in her place. I don't mean to sound domineering or misogynistic. Think of it like a woman wanting to be with the bad boy. It's thrilling. Probably the only time you can slap a woman and get away with it with dirty talking (just kidding).
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