justagirrl Posted October 19, 2011 Posted October 19, 2011 Hey! So, in my last thread, I talked about a book I read called "Why Men Love Bitches" by Sherry Argov. I've been getting lots of mixed feedback about the book. Parts of it I LOVED and other parts just left me completely confused. Opinions, if you've read it?
alphamale Posted October 19, 2011 Posted October 19, 2011 most people like a challenge and dislike a doormat, regardless of gender
thatone Posted October 19, 2011 Posted October 19, 2011 women writing books to other women about men. kinda like a bunch of men sitting at a football game telling each other they have women all figured out.
geegirl Posted October 19, 2011 Posted October 19, 2011 Agree with the doormat message but some of it was a bunch of game playing.
Author justagirrl Posted October 19, 2011 Author Posted October 19, 2011 I agree Geegirl, A lot of the book seemed like it was plotting a game for you to play with a guy and its like "well, if it works it works...if it doesn't you did it wrong"
geegirl Posted October 19, 2011 Posted October 19, 2011 I agree Geegirl, A lot of the book seemed like it was plotting a game for you to play with a guy and its like "well, if it works it works...if it doesn't you did it wrong" Yep, and if you have to go through all that trouble plotting and scheming to get him to come your way, you're better off being without him.
MaxNoob Posted October 19, 2011 Posted October 19, 2011 I won't date a bitch. If I see her getting angry at anyone without a damn good reason, it's over, because I know eventually that kind of anger will be directed at me. I will not let myself be dragged down by someone else's hatred and pessimism.
Woggle Posted October 19, 2011 Posted October 19, 2011 People who write books like this remind me of intellectuals who study cultures they don't actually live and then think they know everything. How many of those authors actually have successful relationships?
alphamale Posted October 19, 2011 Posted October 19, 2011 I won't date a bitch. If I see her getting angry at anyone without a damn good reason, it's over, because I know eventually that kind of anger will be directed at me. I will not let myself be dragged down by someone else's hatred and pessimism. what if she swallows and gives you anal??
Imajerk17 Posted October 19, 2011 Posted October 19, 2011 Men don't love bitches, but we don't like doormats either. Canceling your plans last-minute to be with a guy who ONLY seems to value you "for one thing" is being a doormat. You're like the guy who keeps buying flowers and dinner for a girl who tells him that she wants to take it slow and hasn't kissed him yet. From what you've written, you're just a booty-call, justagirl. "Talking about it" won't fix it. Saying no just might.
orion1010 Posted October 19, 2011 Posted October 19, 2011 I personally don't think men love a bitch. I think it's the opposite. I think men love a woman who is her own person, has her own life, respects herself and him, and can challenge him in a healthy way, for example in a conversation, or healthy debat...
USMCHokie Posted October 19, 2011 Posted October 19, 2011 I haven't seen the book, but is it supposed to be the female response to the whole PUA genre of literature?
ShannonMI Posted October 19, 2011 Posted October 19, 2011 what if she swallows and gives you anal?? Your posts never fail to crack me up:laugh:
somedude81 Posted October 19, 2011 Posted October 19, 2011 I've got no interest in a bitch. Why should I even bother? If she isn't nice to me and fun to be with, I'm not going to waste my time. It doesn't matter how hot she is.
ShannonMI Posted October 19, 2011 Posted October 19, 2011 Some men like women that take charge, are independant, speak their minds, etc. etc. Some would consider that a "bitch." It depends on what they consider bitchy qualities and if they dig that or not.
OnyxSnowfall Posted October 19, 2011 Posted October 19, 2011 Some men like women that take charge, are independant, speak their minds, etc. etc. Some would consider that a "bitch." It depends on what they consider bitchy qualities and if they dig that or not. This. (10 chars).
Easyguy14 Posted October 19, 2011 Posted October 19, 2011 Hey! So, in my last thread, I talked about a book I read called "Why Men Love Bitches" by Sherry Argov. I've been getting lots of mixed feedback about the book. Parts of it I LOVED and other parts just left me completely confused. Opinions, if you've read it? I haven't read it nor do I intend to because I disagree about liking bitches. no one in there right mind would want a miserable, self-loathing person in no respect unless they have some serious mental issues going on.
ShannonMI Posted October 19, 2011 Posted October 19, 2011 What traits make a woman a bitch? What do you men think?
USMCHokie Posted October 19, 2011 Posted October 19, 2011 What traits make a woman a bitch? What do you men think? Overheightened sense of self...or complete lack of humility...everything else is derived from that...in my opinion...
Woggle Posted October 19, 2011 Posted October 19, 2011 What traits make a woman a bitch? What do you men think? A sense of entitlement that she should be treated like a princess just because A tendency to criticize everything a man does A man hating attitude.
ShannonMI Posted October 19, 2011 Posted October 19, 2011 Ok so those are all really negative things. So yeah, no wonder you men don't like bitches. At least the way you guys are describing a bitch. I'm assuming the author of this bitch book is talking more of the independent, opinionated, don't take no sh*t from anyone type of chick. Those could also be considered bitchy qualities am I right? Is that a turn on or no?
Woggle Posted October 19, 2011 Posted October 19, 2011 Ok so those are all really negative things. So yeah, no wonder you men don't like bitches. At least the way you guys are describing a bitch. I'm assuming the author of this bitch book is talking more of the independent, opinionated, don't take no sh*t from anyone type of chick. Those could also be considered bitchy qualities am I right? Is that a turn on or no? I like strong and independent women but not women who go around telling people how strong and independent they are. Usually it means they are just impossible to deal with.
carhill Posted October 19, 2011 Posted October 19, 2011 6. Plain old mean. I've never purposely loved a bitch in my life. However, some women I've loved have changed into aspects of the 'mean' part, either globally or situationally. My mistake was thinking more sympathy and understanding and love would help ameliorate the mean streak. The best help was losing them, permanently. What I've noticed is that some of this subset of women are quite pleasant and convincing in the 'hook him' stage, kinda like abusive men are charming in the beginning. Then it starts. A little here. A little there, remarkably well timed to analysis of increasing emotional investment. They're good, I'll give 'em that. In retrospect, I think my exW turned into 'mean' to get rid of me; to 'sour the milk'. Push me far enough and I'd make a mistake. I did. She guessed right. I gotta give her credit for that. Good show. The difference was, antithetical to the premise of the OP, once she turned 'mean', my love went bye-bye.
thatone Posted October 19, 2011 Posted October 19, 2011 I like strong and independent women but not women who go around telling people how strong and independent they are. Usually it means they are just impossible to deal with. because strong/independent people don't need to point it out, only people who aren't but want people to think they are need to point it out.
USMCHokie Posted October 19, 2011 Posted October 19, 2011 Ok so those are all really negative things. So yeah, no wonder you men don't like bitches. At least the way you guys are describing a bitch. I'm assuming the author of this bitch book is talking more of the independent, opinionated, don't take no sh*t from anyone type of chick. Those could also be considered bitchy qualities am I right? Is that a turn on or no? I honestly think it depends on the guy you're asking. Guys that associate female traits like independence and being opinionated with being a bitch might tend to be insecure and require some sort of control or superiority in their lives. They may not get to experience that control or "superiority" because they either dont believe in themselves or just legitimately suck at life. Therefore, he seeks that from weak-willed women. If a woman challenges him with her own sense of self, then he labels her a bitch, because he feels like less of a man. Mere speculation...
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