Would you color your hair darker if you knew your bf's preference are brunettes?

October 18, 2011

My sister was a lifelong blonde - starting off natural and then dyeing as she aged. One day when she was maybe 32 or 33, she dyed her hair a reddish brunette. It took me forever to get used to it, but she still looks lovely.

If you have naturally brown hair and are used to dyeing it, then you can experiment like my sister did. You can have a lot of fun with your look because you already are familiar with how to have it dyed properly. You can experiment with all sort of shades.

But do it for you and not your boyfriend. Do it because you would enjoy it.

October 18, 2011

If you are a natural brunette, just stop coloring it and and see how he likes it.

I think the color isn't the issue he just wants you to be more natural.

October 18, 2011

It is good to consider your partner's preferences, but not to value them above your own.

I agree.

I'd only change your color if you feel like trying out something new or you have concerns about hair damage from excessive coloring. Try out an inexpensive brunette wig, just to get a general feel if you'd be comfortable with a darker color.

October 18, 2011

I think the color isn't the issue he just wants you to be more natural.

She already said he liked the pictures of her wearing a lot of makeup. Very few men really want women to look more "natural". Compared to all the hyper-dyed hair that most women have these days, natural hair often looks dull and lifeless in comparison. When it comes to attracting most men, synthetic beats natural every time.

Here's an example of dark blonde/light brown hair that has not been dyed.

October 18, 2011

Most men, prefer the natural hair color of women. SO MANY women dye their hair blonde. Most women are doing it WRONG. *slams fist on desk*

They're doing it wrong because they fail to get it to look natural. Those women think they look blonde, but the truth of the matter is that the white in their hair looks chemically burned into it. ES's boyfriend has noticed that, I notice that, I'll bet a lot of guys notice that.

I've seen it most among women in Eastern Europe. Most of the girls there naturally have hair like Natalie Portman, HOWEVER a lot of them dye their hair blonde, destroying their look in the process. It looks trashy, they think they look classy that way, but they make themselves look like North American trailer trash or Euro trash. It's disappointing in my opinion.

Take Mila Kunis for example who is also Eastern European, she's even darker, but she's one of the most beautiful women in the world (in my opinion) WITH HER NATURAL HAIR COLOR. She would look ridiculous as a blonde I suspect.

Emma Stone has it down pat, she's a natural blonde (Swedish descent) http://bit.ly/qhS7Bm , but she looks natural both as a blonde and with auburn hair. Unless you can dye your hair that well or have it done that well for you, then just don't dye your hair.

Natalie Portman probably understands that her natural hair color fits her best. She can't outdo her own natural beauty anyway, just like most women by the way.

It's about taste, but also about evolution. Do you really think chemically burning your hair white will outdo millions upon millions of years of human evolution? Most women, can not outdo their own natural beauty. You'd have to have pretty good taste and an artistic eye and skills to be able to do that.

He already liked quite a few pictures when I had darker hair on FB and subtly told me that I should stop destroying my hair by bleaching it so yeah, he would like it.

Stop dying your hair. That is not hard to do.

In any event most men like the natural look in women.

Your boyfriend says it, Pierre says it, I say it and believe me when I say most guys prefer it natural and the reason for that is probably because most women just plain suck at dying their hair. From what I can remember from your avatars ES, you sometimes got it right, but you also got it wrong (Eastern European style) a lot of the times. (i.e. your blonde dye job)

When you got it right, it did enhance your looks, when you got it wrong it downgraded your looks. So my advice is to do it right, or don't do it at all.

And yes I realize this is somewhat a harsh post, but it annoys me a bit that so many women do this. And just look at the difference in the type of replies men give and the type of replies women give here. Do you want enhance your look for men or do you just want to think you enhanced it?

That being said, dying your hair blonde is not the holy grail of beauty. More women downgrade their level of beauty by doing it rather than enhance it. That's my opinion on the matter. Besides, a blonde woman isn't necessarily more beautiful than a woman with any other natural hair color.

Edited October 18, 2011 by Nexus One

October 18, 2011

She already said he liked the pictures of her wearing a lot of makeup. Very few men really want women to look more "natural". Compared to all the hyper-dyed hair that most women have these days, natural hair often looks dull and lifeless in comparison. When it comes to attracting most men, synthetic beats natural every time.

Here's an example of dark blonde/light brown hair that has not been dyed.

Ruby:

I have to disagree with you.

I remember the very 1st beauty pageant in Russia after the fall of the Berlin Wall and the end communism in the USSR. The contestants had natural hair, little make-up and a very exotic look that was not plastic or refined to hypervanity levels. It is very refreshing to see a woman that is not vane. Raw natural beauty cannot be beaten. I love women that go out without make up, just like men do. That is true beauty!!

To assume that men like too much make up and plastic dyed hair is a bit odd, but in the end most women dress for other women and never bother to ask men. And if you ask men they will lie and not tell you they prefer a natural look. Any man that wants sex always agree with the female.

The other men that like that un-natural look are the metrosexuals.:laugh:

October 18, 2011

Thing is, ES's shade/tone doesn't look natural. It doesn't go with her skin tone, and it's too solid blonde.

October 18, 2011

She already said he liked the pictures of her wearing a lot of makeup. Very few men really want women to look more "natural". Compared to all the hyper-dyed hair that most women have these days, natural hair often looks dull and lifeless in comparison. When it comes to attracting most men, synthetic beats natural every time.

Here's an example of dark blonde/light brown hair that has not been dyed.

I think he was more focused on her hair color than her makeup.

As for the hyper-dyed hair most women have, that's something they are doing for themselves and other women. It's almost as if women are in a race with each other to stand out the most and men don't care either way. As long as the hair isn't grey, it's all good.

BTW your picture doesn't work.

October 18, 2011

IMO, Nature gets it right every time. I've seen plenty of brunettes who go blonde and they don't look nearly as good as they did natural. Same can be said for blondes who go dark.

Mess around with the shade all you want but don't stray too far from your natural color. OP, from the pictures you've posted your hair's always looked too dyed. It washes you out. At least darken it some.

October 18, 2011

Eastern Europe? And hair color?

It depends. Have you seen women from Romania?

October 18, 2011

This thread is hilarious. It's amazing how brainwashed men are about female "beauty". It's very amusing to see you desperately clinging to the idea that your favorite celeb crushes are "natural".

This woman's hair color is far from natural. If you want a clue as to what her natural hair color is, look at her eyebrows (dark brown). But many celebs and people with a bank roll get their eyebrows dyed, too, so it's not a totally reliable tell.

Same for her. Look at the eyebrows. Medium brown -- not nearly so eye-catching a color as the deep brown DYED hair color.

Every single picture in this thread, except the one I posted, shows women with heavily dyed hair. Some are closer to their natural color than others, but they are all totally synthetic hair treatments.

No matter how much your fantasy self would like to believe it's true, your celeb crushes were not born that way. It's FAKE. And you're gullible enough to buy it.

October 18, 2011

Actually most Eastern European women do have fair hair, especially in the Baltic region. Mila Kunis is Jewish so genetically she is closer to Middle Eastern (semitic) than Eastern European. She also doesn't look EE to me. Here are examples of more typical EE women (just in terms of facial features and complexion. I don't know what their natural hair color is):

http://images.nymag.com/fashion/models/vzelyaeva/vzelyaeva_profile.jpg
http://30.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lbd7m35IMV1qangyxo1_500.jpg
http://celebritywonder.ugo.com/picture/Polina_Frantsena/ModelPolinaF_Kambouris_58638373.jpg

Emma Stone's hair in that photo is clearly dyed because it doesn't fit with the rest of her coloring, even though you're right that it's well-dyed. It would be very unlikely with someone with her coloring to have white-blonde hair. If she's natural blonde I bet it's dark blonde.

This thread is hilarious. It's amazing how brainwashed men are about female "beauty". It's very amusing to see you desperately clinging to the idea that your favorite celeb crushes are "natural".

This woman's hair color is far from natural. If you want a clue as to what her natural hair color is, look at her eyebrows (dark brown). But many celebs and people with a bank roll get their eyebrows dyed, too, so it's not a totally reliable tell.

Same for her. Look at the eyebrows. Medium brown -- not nearly so eye-catching a color as the deep brown DYED hair color.

Every single picture in this thread, except the one I posted, shows women with heavily dyed hair. Some are closer to their natural color than others, but they are all totally synthetic hair treatments.

No matter how much your fantasy self would like to believe it's true, your celeb crushes were not born that way. It's FAKE. And you're gullible enough to buy it.

Emma Stone's eyebrows are auburn because she plays an auburn "redhead" in nearly all her movies. In that photo she has already dyed her eyebrows or not (fully) cleared them from dye. She's a natural blonde, that is her natural hair color.

Besides, it doesn't surprise me most women in this thread simply don't get it. I'm not just (slightly) annoyed by this stuff because women downgrade their own looks, but also because there's a factor of denial involved.

October 18, 2011

This thread is hilarious. It's amazing how brainwashed men are about female "beauty". It's very amusing to see you desperately clinging to the idea that your favorite celeb crushes are "natural".

This woman's hair color is far from natural. If you want a clue as to what her natural hair color is, look at her eyebrows (dark brown). But many celebs and people with a bank roll get their eyebrows dyed, too, so it's not a totally reliable tell.

Same for her. Look at the eyebrows. Medium brown -- not nearly so eye-catching a color as the deep brown DYED hair color.

Every single picture in this thread, except the one I posted, shows women with heavily dyed hair. Some are closer to their natural color than others, but they are all totally synthetic hair treatments.

No matter how much your fantasy self would like to believe it's true, your celeb crushes were not born that way. It's FAKE. And you're gullible enough to buy it.

Ruby baby:

Don't change the angle of the thread.

When you see a celeb on a magazine that is one selected photo out of hundreds. These celebs can afford better beauticians than the average female. However, look at these women when the paparrazi catches then in the grocery store doing their shopping. They look just like the girl next door with overdone hair.

October 18, 2011

No matter how much your fantasy self would like to believe it's true, your celeb crushes were not born that way. It's FAKE. And you're gullible enough to buy it.

I agree about the celebrity pics....

But men still prefer the more natural looks over the more extreme.

Natalie Portman's hair may not be her natural color, but it looks like A natural color. It looks almost exactly like mine, completely natural. It is just pretty hair to complement a pretty face--not LOOK AT MY AWESOME HAIR!!!

October 18, 2011

Emma Stone's eyebrows are auburn because she plays an auburn "redhead" in nearly all her movies. In that photo she has already dyed her eyebrows or not (fully) cleared them from dye. She's a natural blonde, that is her natural hair color.

You are totally brainwashed. The hair color in the photo is so obviously not natural, it's not even funny. If she is a natural blonde, the natural color is almost certainly far darker, blander, and mousier than the synthetic color you see in the picture. But that's cool. If you're happy being blissfully ignorant, that's your business.

Besides, it doesn't surprise me most women in this thread simply don't get it. I'm not just (slightly) annoyed by this stuff because women downgrade their own looks, but also because there's a factor of denial involved.

Most women don't have thousands of dollars to blow on hair and grooming stylists like celebrities do. And for you to "slam your fist" and insist that we "get it right" like they do is just... sad and adolescent.

October 18, 2011

Most women don't have thousands of dollars to blow on hair and grooming stylists like celebrities do. And for you to "slam your fist" and insist that we "get it right" like they do is just... sad and adolescent.

It's true, men have no idea how much effort goes into those media images.

But the guys have a point. Most men don't like when hair and make up is "done" to a point that it overshadows the natural beauty. Hair and make up is done "right" if men can't tell that it's been done. If the average guy can tell, it is probably too much.

October 18, 2011

You are totally brainwashed. The hair color in the photo is so obviously not natural, it's not even funny. If she is a natural blonde, the natural color is almost certainly far darker, blander, and mousier than the synthetic color you see in the picture. But that's cool. If you're happy being blissfully ignorant, that's your business.

Good grief, I've seen interviews with her where she talked about her hair. Emma Stone is known for switching between her natural hair color and an auburn dye color, it's one of her trademarks.

Most women don't have thousands of dollars to blow on hair and grooming stylists like celebrities do. And for you to "slam your fist" and insist that we "get it right" like they do is just... sad and adolescent.

Obviously you missed I was joking with that, sheesh.

It's not a major issue to me, just a minor thing that's a bit of a pity/shame, nothing more, nothing less. To emphasize my point I sometimes kind of jokingly throw some gimmicky statements into my post to make it a more interesting read, rather than just writing a bland emotionless sounding post. Sue me.

Edited October 18, 2011 by Nexus One

October 18, 2011

It's not a major issue to me, just a minor thing that's a bit of a pity/shame, nothing more, nothing less.

Aren't you the guy who used to constantly post your creepy wall of celebrity pics and rhapsodize endlessly about the physical characteristics of your ideal woman? Something tells me this is a major thing for you.

It's true, men have no idea how much effort goes into those media images.

But the guys have a point. Most men don't like when hair and make up is "done" to a point that it overshadows the natural beauty. Hair and make up is done "right" if men can't tell that it's been done. If the average guy can tell, it is probably too much.

I get what you're saying, definitely. My point is simply that most men turn their nose up at real "natural" beauty. Beauty that looks natural and meets the approval of your average mainstream man is, in 99% of cases, completely NOT natural. It's just very convincingly fake.

I don't know why I'm still so surprised that men are so brainwashed and cling so desperately to the idea that the beauty of their crushes is more natural than that of other women. I think it's that the brainwashing machine is just getting more powerful, and men are more effectively brainwashed with each generation. I find it sad that more men don't think for themselves.

October 18, 2011

I get what you're saying, definitely. My point is simply that most men turn their nose up at real "natural" beauty. Beauty that looks natural and meets the approval of your average mainstream man is, in 99% of cases, completely NOT natural. It's just very convincingly fake.

I don't know why I'm still so surprised that men are so brainwashed and cling so desperately to the idea that the beauty of their crushes is more natural than that of other women. I think it's that the brainwashing machine is just getting more powerful, and men are more effectively brainwashed with each generation. I find it sad that more men don't think for themselves.

No one can compete with PhotoShop.

October 18, 2011

Ruby is right. Guys want a Laura Mercier version of natural, but that's still totally made up. They have no clue.

October 18, 2011

Ruby is right. Guys want a Laura Mercier version of natural, but that's still totally made up. They have no clue.

I know! Men are pretty much the last people that should be dolling out beauty tips. No idea what it takes to look "natural". My hair alone is 2 hours and $200 of keeping it "natural".

It's all well and good to please your bf, but you should be able to look in the mirror and feel like you're looking your best. It's not like you're shaving your head and getting a tattoo of a butterfly on your dome. You are allowed your preferences too ES.

Edited October 18, 2011 by Citizen Erased

October 18, 2011

My point is simply that most men turn their nose up at real "natural" beauty.

Oh? And where do you get that idea from?

October 18, 2011

I love that ES's threads always turn into debates, no matter what.

In my experience, some men do appreciate women au naturel (pun intended). I hardly ever have time for make up, haven't colored my hair since 1998, consider it a good day when I get to dry it, sometimes run out of the house with the first things I could find in my closet. I don't even watch what I eat! And still, I manage to land some great guys (who I think are goodlooking).

I think I attract guys who like natural beauty... Because I don't bother much with my looks. If I was someone who had the knowledge, time and resources to dress up, wear make up and maximize my looks, than I would probably attract guys who appreciate women who take the time to enhance their beauty.

The bottom line is: it all works out. I attract the kind of guys who are attracted to low-key women. They obviously exists, else I would have had no love life.

Edited October 18, 2011 by Kamille

October 18, 2011

I don't think most guys really care whether a girl's hair is dyed or natural because I agree with those who say that most of them don't even know what truly "natural" looks like -- they just want someone who APPEARS natural, even if she uses makeup/hair dye to acheive that look. So most guys care when it's OBVIOUSLY dyed and therefore looks fake/damaged, like when a girl with dark hair tries to go blonde and it just doesn't look right, or she chooses a shade that doesn't go with her skin tone. I see SO many women who automatically assume that blonde is better, and they have these brassy, trashy bleached looks, or just a bad dye job. It's hard to get dyed blonde right, IMO, and that's probably what the OPs boyfriend doesn't like. And, even if a girl has dyed her hair darker, it's more likely to appear "natural" than hair that's been dyed blonde.

October 18, 2011

Aren't you the guy who used to constantly post your creepy wall of celebrity pics and rhapsodize endlessly about the physical characteristics of your ideal woman?

Yeah that'd be me. I posted the thing like 4 times I think, mostly in threads asking people to list celebrities they find attractive or in threads talking about women's body types (slender vs curvy). So it's not like I post it out of context.

My last crush looked like Emma Stone, so that might have something to do with me posting about it. This is after all a love forum.

Something tells me this is a major thing for you.

I've always, always indicated on this forum that attraction is based on three things for me, looks, personality and intelligence. You make it seem as if I just focus one thing. Creating a bond/connection is also very important to me.

I get what you're saying, definitely. My point is simply that most men turn their nose up at real "natural" beauty. Beauty that looks natural and meets the approval of your average mainstream man is, in 99% of cases, completely NOT natural. It's just very convincingly fake.

Yeah, but what does that have to do with me? I don't feel attracted to 99% of the women in the mainstream media. I'm selective about the type of women I like, but that's part of me. That being said, just because I have a preference, doesn't mean I don't feel attracted to women outside that preference. It's a preference, it's not a cold hard standard I'm setting.

I don't know why I'm still so surprised that men are so brainwashed and cling so desperately to the idea that the beauty of their crushes is more natural than that of other women. I think it's that the brainwashing machine is just getting more powerful, and men are more effectively brainwashed with each generation. I find it sad that more men don't think for themselves.

I sense a bit of bitterness in your posts in this thread rather than you actually having solid arguments that debunk the ones of the guys.

You have me wrong if you think I'm all about externals.

Edited October 18, 2011 by Nexus One

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