Wolf18 Posted October 18, 2011 Posted October 18, 2011 When you're fat, short, or jobless and suddenly your situation changes, so does your love life. This is essentially proof that what's inside...doesn't really matter. I got rejected by some girl today that i've gotten to know; she's in love with some guy that's making 6 figures, has a nice car, etc. He cheats on her all the time and she told me that she broke it off with him, but now is back together with him. his guy is kind of dweeby and boring but he has a good computer engineering career. I bet that when he was in college the girls ignored him, but now hes living it up and has little remorse about it. This girl tried to call me later on after rejecting me...to whine about him. I politely told her I didn't want to hear about her ****ing boyfriend and that I'm not a girl so I don't care. She probably would've ignored him in college just like she's frigid towards me (underemployed, not tall, not muscular, no car I have nothing women want), so now it's his turn to have his 15 minutes in the spotlight. Romantic love for love's sake, is a lie. Your animal instinct to build a nest or sleep with a beefcakeis what's real, when you try to philosophize it just makes us realistic people laugh.
OnyxSnowfall Posted October 18, 2011 Posted October 18, 2011 (edited) ............. Edited October 18, 2011 by OnyxSnowfall
fishtaco Posted October 18, 2011 Posted October 18, 2011 Sounds about right. But you can fix the employment, muscle, and car part. Here's the trick. You don't need to excel at anything, but you need to suck at nothing. Do you need big muscles? Nope. Only a small percentage of women are into meatheads. As long as you look like you take care of yourself, you're fine. Do you need to make six figures? Nope, but it helps to not be struggling financially. Car and a decent place to live are important, but you don't need a Porche, and you don't need a mansion. But, if you can't hit average at one of the traits, then you can compensate with being very good at another trait. Good news, you get to pick which one is your "edge", as long as you have one. I know, the employment thing is rough right now due to the economy. And I feel bad for you. But personally I would rank that more important than getting women. In fact, f-k women. I need to get my sh-t together first. When I lost my job I didn't date, I didn't party, I didn't do crap. I found a job, then another one, and I worked two jobs for a whole year, and I didn't even bother looking at women. I pulled myself out, and I even had enough extra money (because I literally didn't do anything, I just worked) that I bought my current truck with cash. I can tell you, it's very difficult to date when your own life isn't in order. Get your life in order, don't worry about women.
ChessPieceFace Posted October 18, 2011 Posted October 18, 2011 Yeah Wolf, your as-usual negative rant has its measure of truth. But I must ask you -- do you honestly believe that "what's inside" of you is so fantastic? Because what comes out of your mind on these forums isn't. How long you think you can exist in such a terribly negative place? The world isn't gonna change. Look elsewhere for happiness buddy, cause it sounds like you're too bitter to find happiness with women. Plenty of other things in the world. Just some advice from a fellow bitter rejected man like yourself.
aj22one Posted October 18, 2011 Posted October 18, 2011 In my experience, it isn't that all women like the kind of guy you describe (cheating, d-baggery, etc.) but that those kinds of men never have any issues attracting women in general. Just don't look for any sympathy from women on here or in real life because they'll usually give you all kinds of excuses as to why this is, even though it's inexcusable. The reality is that some women do not want good guys, they enjoy being cheated on because it means they have a really "good catch". Not all women to be sure, but more than enough to keep the players in business. This shouldn't anger you though, it should amuse you. I usually laugh (in front of her) when a women tells me that a guy she's dating has cheated on her for the ninth time. You pays your money and you takes your choice in this world.
Ross MwcFan Posted October 18, 2011 Posted October 18, 2011 Just try to keep in mind that not all women are like that.
WhiteChocolate Posted October 18, 2011 Posted October 18, 2011 Sounds about right. But you can fix the employment, muscle, and car part. Here's the trick. You don't need to excel at anything, but you need to suck at nothing. Do you need big muscles? Nope. Only a small percentage of women are into meatheads. As long as you look like you take care of yourself, you're fine. Do you need to make six figures? Nope, but it helps to not be struggling financially. Car and a decent place to live are important, but you don't need a Porche, and you don't need a mansion. But, if you can't hit average at one of the traits, then you can compensate with being very good at another trait. Good news, you get to pick which one is your "edge", as long as you have one. I know, the employment thing is rough right now due to the economy. And I feel bad for you. But personally I would rank that more important than getting women. In fact, f-k women. I need to get my sh-t together first. When I lost my job I didn't date, I didn't party, I didn't do crap. I found a job, then another one, and I worked two jobs for a whole year, and I didn't even bother looking at women. I pulled myself out, and I even had enough extra money (because I literally didn't do anything, I just worked) that I bought my current truck with cash. I can tell you, it's very difficult to date when your own life isn't in order. Get your life in order, don't worry about women. I agree with fishtaco. And it's not really the money, car, or physique that matters. It's how you are handling your life that matters. Who wants to date someone who treats his life like a slob?
SteveC80 Posted October 18, 2011 Posted October 18, 2011 Women are in a tricky spot becasue whats good for thme and what traits they like in a person isnt necassarily what turns them on and gets their panties wet Sure theyd love a guy with kindness and a good heart but raw power domination and social status are what they inhernetly repspond to subconsciously Its all about masculine enegy not being a kind thoguhtful person when turning women on in the most natural raw way
Johnny85 Posted October 18, 2011 Posted October 18, 2011 Women are in a tricky spot becasue whats good for thme and what traits they like in a person isnt necassarily what turns them on and gets their panties wet Sure theyd love a guy with kindness and a good heart but raw power domination and social status are what they inhernetly repspond to subconsciously Its all about masculine enegy not being a kind thoguhtful person when turning women on in the most natural raw way I agree to a certain extent (just like men enjoy feminine qualities in women, women enjoy masculine qualities in men). But different people are attracted to different qualities in a partner. Just go to Europe and many men dress well and would most certainly come across as "metrosexual" here in the U.S. for wearing pink. All of this talk about power domination and social status is just a bit silly to me. When you truly love a person, qualities like "kindness", respect, sense of humor, "good heart" and other positive virtues are far more important than what kind of a car or job someone has (social status). And if she is only into you for those pretentious qualities and materialistic possessions, you probably wouldn't want to have a long-term relationship with her. Or maybe you would? But I know that you have a valid point, for I have seen several gold diggers go after my friends who drive nice cars and earn a good living. It is usually a mutual deal, however, for the guy gets laid, and the girl gets a free dinner. Then it ends!
mike111 Posted October 18, 2011 Posted October 18, 2011 Romantic love for love's sake, is a lie. Your animal instinct to build a nest or sleep with a beefcake is what's real, when you try to philosophize it just makes us realistic people laugh. I hear you. I just wish people could look beyond that and recognize that we are not animals f**king in the forest. mike
azsinglegal Posted October 18, 2011 Posted October 18, 2011 Women are in a tricky spot becasue whats good for thme and what traits they like in a person isnt necassarily what turns them on and gets their panties wet Sure theyd love a guy with kindness and a good heart but raw power domination and social status are what they inhernetly repspond to subconsciously Its all about masculine enegy not being a kind thoguhtful person when turning women on in the most natural raw way Reading men try to say how women think and what they want makes me LOL.
Audrina Posted October 18, 2011 Posted October 18, 2011 My boyfriend has all the qualities that I look for in a man, and he's not what many other women would consider attractive. To me he is. I love his smile and dimples. He's not in shape, he sits around and plays video games and drinks beer... I LOVE my boyfriend. He accepts me for who I am. I accept him for who he is and together we make each other laugh. I feel safe in his arms and he provides for me emotionally and physically. Yes, as women we cannot overcome our biological nature to find someone who can provide for us and a family, this is because it is our burden to carry a child and is ingrained in our minds. There is no overcoming this. I know my boyfriend can provide for me, he may live paycheck to paycheck but if it came down to it, he'd walk to the end of the earth for me. It's only what's inside that matters to me. If you find yourself continually being shut down by women, you're probably looking at the wrong group of women.
louise_23 Posted October 18, 2011 Posted October 18, 2011 When you're fat, short, or jobless and suddenly your situation changes, so does your love life. This is essentially proof that what's inside...doesn't really matter. I got rejected by some girl today that i've gotten to know; she's in love with some guy that's making 6 figures, has a nice car, etc. He cheats on her all the time and she told me that she broke it off with him, but now is back together with him. his guy is kind of dweeby and boring but he has a good computer engineering career. I bet that when he was in college the girls ignored him, but now hes living it up and has little remorse about it. This girl tried to call me later on after rejecting me...to whine about him. I politely told her I didn't want to hear about her ****ing boyfriend and that I'm not a girl so I don't care. She probably would've ignored him in college just like she's frigid towards me (underemployed, not tall, not muscular, no car I have nothing women want), so now it's his turn to have his 15 minutes in the spotlight. Romantic love for love's sake, is a lie. Your animal instinct to build a nest or sleep with a beefcakeis what's real, when you try to philosophize it just makes us realistic people laugh. you seen full metal jacket? you look like pile in that picture, if its you. anyway, job status hasnt ever been very important to me. attitude, however, goes a long way. self pity is very unattractive.
OnyxSnowfall Posted October 18, 2011 Posted October 18, 2011 (edited) If you find yourself continually being shut down by women, you're probably looking at the wrong group of women. Agreed. (Not to state he doesn't have any accountability for it anywhere either, though...) But this part... Yes, as women we cannot overcome our biological nature to find someone who can provide for us and a family, this is because it is our burden to carry a child and is ingrained in our minds. There is no overcoming this. I must respectfully disagree with. Plenty of women do not want to bear children. Plenty of women also want to be a provider, and not provided for (and in that group, some of them don't want families of their own, while some of them do). Now, I'm not saying it's not true for you or other women (or certain men lol), but it doesn't "biologically" encompass women. Edited October 18, 2011 by OnyxSnowfall
Audrina Posted October 18, 2011 Posted October 18, 2011 Agreed. This part though... I must respectfully disagree with. Plenty of women do not want to bear children. Plenty of women also want to be a provider, and not provided for (and in that group, some of them don't want families of their own, while some of them do). Now, I'm not saying it's not true for you or other women, but it doesn't "biologically" encompass all of them. We cannot outrun our biological nature. As HUMANS we are reproductive machines, built for sex. It doesn't matter if a woman makes the choice to not have children or a family of their own or not. We are biologically controlled and driven by certain forces that we aren't even aware of. And while yes, obviously some women want to be a provider, as I said, these are mechanisms that happen in our brain that are completely out of our control because they happen on a level we aren't even aware of. We don't even know they are happening. We can overcome and push aside our conscious drive, or choices, naturally, but the very very core of what drive us forward, the part of us that keeps us in motion without us being aware of it, we can't ... and there's nothing wrong with that. Men are the same way, but driven by different innate needs and wants.
azsinglegal Posted October 18, 2011 Posted October 18, 2011 Agreed. This part though... I must respectfully disagree with. Plenty of women do not want to bear children. Plenty of women also want to be a provider, and not provided for (and in that group, some of them don't want families of their own, while some of them do). Now, I'm not saying it's not true for you or other women, but it doesn't "biologically" encompass women. I so hate stereotypes. I'm a woman and I don't want kids. EVER. I had my tubes tied. I don't have a "motherly instinct" to reproduce. I don't understand women and "baby fever". I don't run every time a woman gets engaged to look at her ring. I don't read Cosmo, Glamour or Vogue. I don't take "love quizzes" to see if my man and I match. I don't do several "typical female" things...that 99% of women do. I've been providing for myself my entire life. I have my own home, car and items. Not because I have to, but because I don't want to have to rely on someone to enhance my life. I don't want to "trap my man". I already have a dog.
InJest Posted October 18, 2011 Posted October 18, 2011 I so hate stereotypes... I don't run every time a woman gets engaged to look at her ring. I don't read Cosmo, Glamour or Vogue. I don't take "love quizzes" to see if my man and I match. I don't do several "typical female" things...that 99% of women do. I just found this kinda funny.
ptp Posted October 18, 2011 Posted October 18, 2011 We cannot outrun our biological nature. As HUMANS we are reproductive machines, built for sex. It doesn't matter if a woman makes the choice to not have children or a family of their own or not. We are biologically controlled and driven by certain forces that we aren't even aware of. And while yes, obviously some women want to be a provider, as I said, these are mechanisms that happen in our brain that are completely out of our control because they happen on a level we aren't even aware of. We don't even know they are happening. We can overcome and push aside our conscious drive, or choices, naturally, but the very very core of what drive us forward, the part of us that keeps us in motion without us being aware of it, we can't ... and there's nothing wrong with that. Men are the same way, but driven by different innate needs and wants. Audrina, I tend to agree with you in that humans have basic instincts pre-programmed into us from thousands of years of evolution. However, isn't it fair to say that some women are programmed differently? Nature is always trying out different traits and allows the environment to select which traits are the most successful.
azsinglegal Posted October 18, 2011 Posted October 18, 2011 I just found this kinda funny. Ironic, huh?
OnyxSnowfall Posted October 18, 2011 Posted October 18, 2011 We cannot outrun our biological nature. As HUMANS we are reproductive machines, built for sex. It doesn't matter if a woman makes the choice to not have children or a family of their own or not. Men are the same way, but driven by different innate needs and wants. HUMANS are driven by different needs and wants. Perhaps it has more to do with what ptp has brought up --- nature is experimental / ever-changing ... there's no clear cut defining points and I'm just tired of listening to people blame and attribute enormous things to "biology" --- because people CAN have a lot of control over what they "believe" they "can't help"... Also, most sex does not result in reproduction. Humans have been designed to be sexual --- but obviously not just for reproductive purposes. Unless you think humans are "defective"... and in which case, I'm capable of conceding... (though I still don't think that's good enough of an explanation heh).
mike111 Posted October 18, 2011 Posted October 18, 2011 Men are the same way, but driven by different innate needs and wants. Men go crazy over big boobed women in bikinis. Those are our reproductive instincts at work. Doesn't matter what she's got otherwise, so long as she's hot and has the big headlights. Women look for men who are strong, confident, reasonably attractive and have cash and assets. Perfect reproductive specimen.
OnyxSnowfall Posted October 18, 2011 Posted October 18, 2011 Men go crazy over big boobed women in bikinis. Those are our reproductive instincts at work. Doesn't matter what she's got otherwise, so long as she's hot and has the big headlights. Women look for men who are strong, confident, reasonably attractive and have cash and assets. Perfect reproductive specimen. Taking you seriously... What about gay men? What do you call their "reproductive" instincts at work?
mike111 Posted October 18, 2011 Posted October 18, 2011 Taking you seriously... What about gay men? What do you call their "reproductive" instincts at work? Good question. Are there any gay males who can answer this?
somedude81 Posted October 18, 2011 Posted October 18, 2011 Homosexuality is an anomaly. It's a genetic dead-end. For the other 98% of men, mike111 is right.
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