Eve Posted October 18, 2011 Posted October 18, 2011 Woggle, next time you are on the net, look up what is the latest hot nail varnish colour. I would be interested in hearing about that and could give a female perspective very happily. I found a hot pink colour that is totally mind blowing - been getting compliments all day long. I am seriously impressed with this nail varnish. :bunny: That is a more news worthy event methinks. Well, at least it has some real life value. The stuff you are reading is boring mate because it does not benefit you. At least read a biography or two, where views end up within a narrative rather than just being views. I know not everything in life is rosey but equally, there are not problems around every corner. You don't have any problems anymore Woggle. That's been done for a while now by the looks of things.. You are wasting your freedom. I am also interested in female friendly hotel destinations in the Detroit area. Or is it Brooklyn? One of them. Take care, Eve x
Trimmer Posted October 18, 2011 Posted October 18, 2011 It just smacked me in the head: survival mode, that's why no one can reason him out of this. He's too far triggered by the time he gets in here anyways. Hope I'm not speaking in riddles. You're not speaking in riddles. You make a lot of sense.
Author Woggle Posted October 18, 2011 Author Posted October 18, 2011 It just smacked me in the head: survival mode, that's why no one can reason him out of this. He's too far triggered by the time he gets in here anyways. Hope I'm not speaking in riddles. This is true. It is like the incredible hulk. When I see misandry I turn into misogyny man or something. It just sets me off.
Mme. Chaucer Posted October 18, 2011 Posted October 18, 2011 Woggle, will you please honestly address the point I am trying to make to you with this, that I posted earlier? Completely ignoring the FACT that his audience is teeming with WOMEN who have had bad experiences (yes, maybe even more horrid than yours - Woggle) at the hands of men. Rape victims, incest survivors, sexual harassment survivors, women with cheating husbands, women in physically abusive relationships, women who believed PUA b.s. - we're all here, reading day after day about how this one man feels justified in trashing all women because of HIS bad experiences. Meanwhile, are WE doing anything like this? NO. Because it's no way to live. And it's unfair and ugly.
xxoo Posted October 18, 2011 Posted October 18, 2011 This is true. It is like the incredible hulk. When I see misandry I turn into misogyny man or something. It just sets me off. And then you set some woman off....and she sets some man off....and around and around it goes. Ultimately, we are each responsible for our own posts. Only YOU can prevent forest fires, and misogyny.
Author Woggle Posted October 18, 2011 Author Posted October 18, 2011 Woggle, will you please honestly address the point I am trying to make to you with this, that I posted earlier? I understand your point. I really do but on the other hand do you have men on here telling you that you deserved these things or at the very least getting some smug sense of satisfaction out of it? On the other hand maybe they are stronger than I am. How am I supposed to react when sometimes I feel like most of a gender hates me? I know that is not true but it feels that way sometimes.
carhill Posted October 18, 2011 Posted October 18, 2011 Relating back to the OP (and the linked post), IME the subset of women who do cheat (I'm most familiar with MW's so those are my data points) have related the dynamic of either their father's cheating or their husband's or their boyfriend's cheating/having affairs and they've communicated that they feel if a man can do it, so can they. That's one subset (my personal knowledge) of one subset (women who have had affairs) of all women (everyone). My personal experience is that 'most' women I know do not align with the opinion of the linked post. Have I felt used, unappreciated and marginalized by such women, and other women? Sure, I imagine no human is immune to such feelings. Do dark thoughts sometimes invade? Sure, another human reality. Do either have to rule me? It's my choice. What's yours, Wogs? You know, in a way, you've taught me something about the dark side and how it tugs at one's psyche. Thanks for that.
serial muse Posted October 18, 2011 Posted October 18, 2011 I understand your point. I really do but on the other hand do you have men on here telling you that you deserved these things or at the very least getting some smug sense of satisfaction out of it? On the other hand maybe they are stronger than I am. How am I supposed to react when sometimes I feel like most of a gender hates me? I know that is not true but it feels that way sometimes. YES. God. :rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:
Author Woggle Posted October 18, 2011 Author Posted October 18, 2011 YES. God. :rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes: Where? You have men saying that women deserve to be abused and mistreated?
xxoo Posted October 18, 2011 Posted October 18, 2011 Where? You have men saying that women deserve to be abused and mistreated? There are plenty of men here saying that women deserve to be cheated on. There are also men here saying that women lose their value as they age, and should be "traded in". I know you've read these views here. Like me, you probably disregard them as absurd. You could treat absurd comments from women the same way.
serial muse Posted October 18, 2011 Posted October 18, 2011 Where? You have men saying that women deserve to be abused and mistreated? Yes, Woggle. I've seen dozens of posts telling women that it's their fault when they're cheated on or beaten because women only ever want to be with bad boys and cheaters, that they're incapable of liking decent men, that they're overemotional and controlled by emotions and that's why they're driven to cheat and/or have bad people-pickers, that they're "ants" compared to men. Some of the stuff I read on here makes me shudder because it's like stepping back two centuries in time, or more. But. Do I think they represent the majority of men, or even the majority of men on LS? Of course not. Most people, I think, are pretty even-keeled overall. But those jerky people are loud and take up a lot of space on here. Still, the responsibility is ON ME to remember that they don't represent every man. It's ON ME. And it's ON YOU to develop perspective. Right now, after all these years of people answering your redundant questions, I think it's just sheer self-indulgence on your part. Like I said before, we all have baggage. It is high time you actually DEALT with yours. Stop enjoying being pissed off, for starters. I know it feeds you on some level - but that is totally ON YOU at this point. Not your mom, not your ex. You're an adult and you're making the choices. Do you really want those people to be the ones who dictate how you run your life now??
Author Woggle Posted October 18, 2011 Author Posted October 18, 2011 There are plenty of men here saying that women deserve to be cheated on. There are also men here saying that women lose their value as they age, and should be "traded in". I know you've read these views here. Like me, you probably disregard them as absurd. You could treat absurd comments from women the same way. I have never said those things. The only thing is that some people like OW/OM and people who date obvious jerks know what they are getting themselves into but I still don't cheer when they are mistreated.
xxoo Posted October 18, 2011 Posted October 18, 2011 I have never said those things. The only thing is that some people like OW/OM and people who date obvious jerks know what they are getting themselves into but I still don't cheer when they are mistreated. Maybe you didn't say it, but somebody said it, and somebody cheered, and that means at least 50% of men agree. Right? Oh, wait.....
aj22one Posted October 18, 2011 Posted October 18, 2011 Yes, Woggle. I've seen dozens of posts telling women that it's their fault when they're cheated on or beaten because women only ever want to be with bad boys and cheaters, that they're incapable of liking decent men, that they're overemotional and controlled by emotions and that's why they're driven to cheat and/or have bad people-pickers, that they're "ants" compared to men. Some of the stuff I read on here makes me shudder because it's like stepping back two centuries in time, or more. Woggle's issues notwithstanding, I've never compared women to "ants". But, I do think that anyone (man or woman) who knowingly gets into or continues a relationship with a known cheater/abuser does deserve what they get. I do have sympathy for people who were deceived/frauded into thinking their SO was a genuinely good person.
Author Woggle Posted October 18, 2011 Author Posted October 18, 2011 I don't think they deserve to be mistreated but if somebody sticks their hand on a hot over, gets burnt and then keeps sticking their hand on it over and over again eventually it is their fault.
dreamingoftigers Posted October 20, 2011 Posted October 20, 2011 I don't think that any innocent man deserves to be shamed, but if an innocent man keeps going to the corners of the world that shame him, then, um, yeah..... maybe he should stop.
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