Woggle Posted October 16, 2011 Posted October 16, 2011 I came home today all in a good mood and then I see this. http://www.loveshack.org/forums/showpost.php?p=3680383&postcount=15 It really makes me wonder sometimes why I even bother trying to be less bitter and hateful.
Queen Zenobia Posted October 16, 2011 Posted October 16, 2011 Sounds like a troll, Woggle. But you knew that already. You're just using it as a perverse justification of your warped worldview. Cheating is bad no matter who does it. Everyone should live by the Golden Rule. The end.
Jynxx Posted October 16, 2011 Posted October 16, 2011 I came home today all in a good mood and then I see this. http://www.loveshack.org/forums/showpost.php?p=3680383&postcount=15 It really makes me wonder sometimes why I even bother trying to be less bitter and hateful. You've been here for 6 years and judging from your postcount you average multiple hours a day reading these forums, and you still manage to get trolled by an account registered this month
denise_xo Posted October 16, 2011 Posted October 16, 2011 Woggle, I read two articles about men raping women today, and another one about a man committing incest towards his fourteen year old daughter. Does it make me bitter against all men? No. Should it? No.
verhrzn Posted October 16, 2011 Posted October 16, 2011 And why exactly does that make you bitter and resentful?? It's merely one poster pointing out that there's been a double standard for cheating, and now it's no longer such a double standard... Now, women can cheat without the heavy social consequences that men have been enjoying for hundreds of years. It's just a "Karma's a b*tch" "Taste of your own medicine" deal. Unless you think it still should be that men are socially excused to cheat and women must still bear all the culture repercussions?
Author Woggle Posted October 16, 2011 Author Posted October 16, 2011 I know I know that everybody is right but I just feel like sometimes I am fighting with everything I have not to be a misogynist prick when sometimes I feel like just going off.
Queen Zenobia Posted October 16, 2011 Posted October 16, 2011 And why exactly does that make you bitter and resentful?? It's merely one poster pointing out that there's been a double standard for cheating, and now it's no longer such a double standard... Now, women can cheat without the heavy social consequences that men have been enjoying for hundreds of years. It's just a "Karma's a b*tch" "Taste of your own medicine" deal. Unless you think it still should be that men are socially excused to cheat and women must still bear all the culture repercussions? He's trying to say that no one should cheat. That women shouldn't be given a free pass because men were given one in the past. All free passes should be done away with. That sort of thing. Basically that today's men shouldn't be held accountable for what men did in the past. Karma should be a personal thing not a group thing. He's right of course, but only trolls disagree with him and he lets the trolls dictate his emotions apparently.
Author Woggle Posted October 16, 2011 Author Posted October 16, 2011 And why exactly does that make you bitter and resentful?? It's merely one poster pointing out that there's been a double standard for cheating, and now it's no longer such a double standard... Now, women can cheat without the heavy social consequences that men have been enjoying for hundreds of years. It's just a "Karma's a b*tch" "Taste of your own medicine" deal. Unless you think it still should be that men are socially excused to cheat and women must still bear all the culture repercussions? I am against it all together. This really makes me think that maybe I should have just been a cheating dog all my life since I get told we deserve to be treated this way anyway. If I get the punishment anyway might as well commit the crime. All the times I could have cheated and I passed it up because I thought faithfulness meant something.
denise_xo Posted October 16, 2011 Posted October 16, 2011 I am against it all together. This really makes me think that maybe I should have just been a cheating dog all my life since I get told we deserve to be treated this way anyway. If I get the punishment anyway might as well commit the crime. You do realise that YOU are the one punishing all women for the crimes of some, right?
carhill Posted October 16, 2011 Posted October 16, 2011 Wogs, empowerment gives people the freedom to be who they are. That men have long enjoyed empowerment is evidenced in their historical behaviors. As women have become more empowered over the last century, same. We are who we are, man, woman, young, old, regardless of race, culture or faith. We're all human and unique. As you've often advised posters, if the person in front of them is acting in an unhealthy way, avoid that person. My personal indication of a woman (or man) 'feeling' in a manner aligning with that referenced post would be in the case of a revenge affair. The 'avenger' knows how much it hurt them and they willfully choose to inflict that same hurt upon another. They have a myriad of choices in front of them and they choose that precise one. They felt 'empowered' to be who they really are. At that moment, it was who they are. Are they that way forever? Unknown. Change is the primary constant of life.
Author Woggle Posted October 16, 2011 Author Posted October 16, 2011 You do realise that YOU are the one punishing all women for the crimes of some, right? If I deserve to get punished for crimes I did not commit why can't I punish women collectively?
Queen Zenobia Posted October 16, 2011 Posted October 16, 2011 I am against it all together. This really makes me think that maybe I should have just been a cheating dog all my life since I get told we deserve to be treated this way anyway. If I get the punishment anyway might as well commit the crime. All the times I could have cheated and I passed it up because I thought faithfulness meant something. Except you do have a good marriage, right? Why should you care what anyone else thinks?
Author Woggle Posted October 16, 2011 Author Posted October 16, 2011 So you are going to cheat on your wife because women on a forum say men deserve it, regardless of the fact that she is your wife who has nothing to do with the cheating women out there? How can you not see that you are your worst enemy in life? No. I am just sick and tired of being told to give up this hatred when nobody ever tells women to stop hating men. This is the same crap I got from many women I know offline after my ex cheated on me even though I turned down temptation countless times for her. I even refused to go to a strip club with the boys on a trip halfway across the country out of respect for her but still I deserved it when she screwed half the town while I was at work because I as a man was getting a taste of my own medicine. I wish I did go to that strip club and I wish I did cheat on her when she cut me off for nearly a year. If am going to be serving the sentence regardless might as well commit the crime.
Queen Zenobia Posted October 16, 2011 Posted October 16, 2011 How was that person a troll? They were shining light on the double standards that has plagued women for centuries, and now, women are doing it too. They never said it was "right". It is not right that women do it now TOO, but it also wasn't right that men did it for centuries against women and society deeming it "okay" because they are "men" and that's what "men do". None of it is okay, but that isn't what the "troll" was saying to begin with. Not everyone who says something you disagree with is a "troll", dear. God. Well "dear" here's what that poster said: Again, they're merely playing the same game men have played since the dawn of time. Sorry guys, my heart ain't bleeding for you. Your gender has been notorious for thinking with your di*cks and apparently, women seem to be doing the same thing, now. Note the part that I bolded. Apparently the poster seems to think that men should not complain about women cheating because men did so for years. They should suck it up and soak in all the bad Karma that they accumulated because of the actions of other men. That's just dumb, and the statement reeks of trolling. It's not just about whether I disagree with the statement or not.
Author Woggle Posted October 16, 2011 Author Posted October 16, 2011 I get the feeling this poster is Woman In Blue. Reading this just ruined what was a great morning.
Author Woggle Posted October 16, 2011 Author Posted October 16, 2011 WOW. And they users on here say I AM bitter and angry. I feel sorry for you. You haven't let go of what your ex did to you, and now your wife will have to suffer. You will never be happy, and that is a shame... I am bitter because I realize no matter how much I try not to hate women this is the way a good number of them feel about me and honestly you are one of the ones agreeing with it.
carhill Posted October 16, 2011 Posted October 16, 2011 I get the feeling this poster is Woman In Blue. Here's a topical sample from that poster Another point of interest is one of proactivity and disclosure. Historically men *appeared* to cheat far more than women and were more often accused of having 'harems' or 'black books' or similar. Who were the members of the harem and the inhabitants of the black book? Certainly not other men, right? All were seeing now is the empowerment to openly and blatantly do things which have always been done. Prior, security was a factor. Now, due to 'equality', most women make their own security and don't have to modify their intrinsic behavior set to retain a source of security. That subset of women is being who they are, openly. Isn't that great information?
Author Woggle Posted October 16, 2011 Author Posted October 16, 2011 How do you know what I agree with when you don't even understand what the "troll" you quoted was even saying? You're so blinded with hate for women you can't even read straight. I don't hate women but I get the feeling many of them hate me. I would never cheat on my current wife but one of my biggest regrets in life is not going wild in New Orleans with my friends because I had too much respect for my ex. She sure as hell had no respect for me.
Author Woggle Posted October 16, 2011 Author Posted October 16, 2011 YOU'RE BACKSLIDING. Do you agree with what was posted in the link?
Author Woggle Posted October 16, 2011 Author Posted October 16, 2011 I have never met anyone who says the things you say..."I'm pretty sure women hate me...". That is just such an odd thing to say. And to still be dwelling on what your ex did even after you married is also odd. Was this even a while ago? Jeez...I think you need counseling. You have a twisted way of thinking. I honest to god do think a large number of women seem to enjoy or at least get some smug satisfaction out of a man being hurt. I remember when my ex cheated on me there were women I thought were friends and who I was on good terms with that all sided with her and later I found out were helping her.
aj22one Posted October 16, 2011 Posted October 16, 2011 I honest to god do think a large number of women seem to enjoy or at least get some smug satisfaction out of a man being hurt. I remember when my ex cheated on me there were women I thought were friends and who I was on good terms with that all sided with her and later I found out were helping her. So? Who cares? They'll get theirs too man. What goes around comes around.
Eddie Edirol Posted October 16, 2011 Posted October 16, 2011 (edited) I know I know that everybody is right but I just feel like sometimes I am fighting with everything I have not to be a misogynist prick when sometimes I feel like just going off. What are you fighting? People lie to get what they want, they always have, its not just in the last 50 years. You have been on this board for 6 years, you should be able to pick up on a liar by now. You cant be mad at all women because you picked the wrong ex, or neglected her and ignored her signs that she emotionally disconnected to you. Youre still living in blind ignorance? Edited October 16, 2011 by Eddie Edirol
Author Woggle Posted October 16, 2011 Author Posted October 16, 2011 What are you fighting? People lie to get what they want, they always have, its not just in the last 50 years. You have been on this board for 6 years, you should be able to pick up on a liar by now. You cant be mad at all women because you picked the wrong ex, or neglected her and ignored her signs that she emotionally disconnected to you. Youre still living in blind ignorance? I am not fighting. I am just venting.
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