OnyxSnowfall Posted October 15, 2011 Posted October 15, 2011 What was wrong with what I said? Why should I be saddled with the little rascals? Or be forced to spend time with them? When you get full custody that's what you get "full custody". Because you SPAWNED THEM? Just don't reproduce The world has enough "unwanted" beings.
aj22one Posted October 15, 2011 Posted October 15, 2011 Because you SPAWNED THEM? Just don't reproduce The world has enough "unwanted" beings. So if I were to get married, and I had kids (both of which I don't plan on anyway but still) and my ex-wife got FULL CUSTODY I should still be forced to not only pay child support (which I already committed to) but also to visit the children? That sounds completely unfair to me. And 100% beneficial to the woman.
OnyxSnowfall Posted October 15, 2011 Posted October 15, 2011 so if i were to get married, and i had kids (both of which i don't plan on anyway but still) and my ex-wife got full custody i should still be forced to not only pay child support (which i already committed to) but also to visit the children? That sounds completely unfair to me. And 100% beneficial to the woman. It isn't for the woman. It's for the CHILDREN. And it should be for you, too.
FitChick Posted October 15, 2011 Posted October 15, 2011 Why should I be saddled with the little rascals? Or be forced to spend time with them? When you get full custody that's what you get "full custody". I don't understand why men don't pay the couple thousand dollars I'm guessing it costs to have a vasectomy. Could it be that many hate women and want to be able to blame them for victimizing them by popping out kids, expecting them to pay? Men are such babies when it comes to needles.
aj22one Posted October 15, 2011 Posted October 15, 2011 It isn't for the woman. It's for the CHILDREN. And it should be for you, too. Most of the time the woman doesn't even want the father to have anything to do with the kids, tells lies about him, etc. Most would rather the new husband be the father. So this is mostly a moot point anyway. I'm just saying I'm ok with that arrangement.
snug.bunny Posted October 15, 2011 Posted October 15, 2011 This just happened a couple days ago. Ok the guy was getting revenge on his wife over a custody battle for the kids. So he kills her and other people at the salon. Why is it always men who do this? I haven't really heard of a woman doing this. So men get all uptight on here about how there is no justice for men in divorce/custody issues...gee, wonder WHY??? You couldn't be more wrong. Have you ever watched Deadly Women on Investigative ID? Watch it a few times and then reread your original post.
aj22one Posted October 15, 2011 Posted October 15, 2011 I don't understand why men don't pay the couple thousand dollars I'm guessing it costs to have a vasectomy. Could it be that many hate women and want to be able to blame them for victimizing them by popping out kids, expecting them to pay? Men are such babies when it comes to needles. As soon as my health insurance clears I'm actually considering having one. Mostly because I don't like condoms, and because of the reasons in this thread .
Woggle Posted October 15, 2011 Posted October 15, 2011 If I had kids I would do everything in my power to be a father to them but I find it funny how some feminists think child support is the only time when fathers matter. The rest of the time they are disposable sperm donors who have no real value in a family or a kids's life but let them miss a payment and it is the biggest sin in the world. I know a woman who once worked in a child support office and she outright admitted that many of these women want the man to send the check and then have little to no involvement in the child's life.
OnyxSnowfall Posted October 15, 2011 Posted October 15, 2011 Most of the time the woman doesn't even want the father to have anything to do with the kids, tells lies about him, etc. Most would rather the new husband be the father. So this is mostly a moot point anyway. I'm just saying I'm ok with that arrangement. And those types of women are generally not looking out for their children's best interest and... probably need to take a few parenting classes (at minimum) :X --- provided the biological father isn't a monster etc. And I'm just saying that you shouldn't reproduce if you don't want children.
AHardDaysNight Posted October 15, 2011 Posted October 15, 2011 I don't understand misogyny, or misandry. People are people, are people, are people. There are evil men, evil women, and both evil men and women. Starting threads like this is a pointless gender war, and is unnecessary.
OnyxSnowfall Posted October 15, 2011 Posted October 15, 2011 Starting threads like this is a pointless gender war, and is unnecessary. Pretty much...
123321 Posted October 16, 2011 Posted October 16, 2011 ... The custodial parent usually ends up paying a LOT more out of pocket for the children. ..... So what loving parent would want to take a child from a parent who loves and can afford to care for them, when they themselves cannot afford it? I don't understand why men don't pay the couple thousand dollars I'm guessing it costs to have a vasectomy. Couple hundred, circa 1994. The little more costly part is putting some kids in the freezer before but overall it was cheap, easy, and solved a world of problems.
ChessPieceFace Posted October 16, 2011 Posted October 16, 2011 This just happened a couple days ago. Ok the guy was getting revenge on his wife over a custody battle for the kids. So he kills her and other people at the salon. Why is it always men who do this? I haven't really heard of a woman doing this. So men get all uptight on here about how there is no justice for men in divorce/custody issues...gee, wonder WHY??? Yeah, women just cut off a man's penis and put it into the garbage disposal. And then it gets joked about by women on the view. Get a clue and get over yourself. Yours is the privileged gender yet you will NEVER stop complaining.
Eve Posted October 16, 2011 Posted October 16, 2011 Mainly I would say these crimes are about gaining power and control. There are undeniably more stories of men being more likely to follow the pattern of murdering their families though. Usually there is some history of domestic violence within such cases. Men can be victims of domestic violence too and the cycle can be different to each gender... but is still domestic violence none the less. In terms of dating, it is highly advisable that one is alert to potential patterns which could lead to domestic violence scenarios. Much of the time these patterns do look very similar to 'whirlwind romances'; one side is basically setting themselves up to dominate the other. It is best that individuals read up on these things and above all else never sever links to family or friends for a new partner. Take care, Eve x
carhill Posted October 16, 2011 Posted October 16, 2011 FWIW, the case I posted upthread about Larissa Schuster was an upper middle class business owner murdering her husband during a contested divorce action. He was a hospital administrator and there were two children involved. Together, they were earning close to .25MM per year back when she killed him in 2003 , which is a large income in this area. Link to details of case Since we have around 4000 women incarcerated nearby, there's bound to be some more spousal murderesses in there; I know Betty Broderick was a long-time resident but I think she's in the prison in Chino now; she killed her former husband and his new wife. Kristin Rossum, a relatively young lifer, killed her husband with poison and tried to pass it off as suicide. There's also 15-20 women on death row but I'm not up on their cases and don't know if they involved husbands/lovers or not. Nobody wins in these situation. Everyone loses. It's just sad all around.
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