Citizen Erased Posted October 17, 2011 Posted October 17, 2011 I am going to have kids one day and be a wonderful mother Sorry to disappoint you all It's not about that and you know it. Nobody on here is going to condone the use of abortion as a birth control method, your attitude is both unexpected and frightening to me. I hope it was just an offhand remark that you didn't think through. You will be a wonderful mother, I don't doubt it. But unless you want one now, you need to be smart about the methods you use to protect yourself from getting pregnant. For your own sake, cos the last thing you want is an unwanted pregnancy in a new relationship.
Author Eternal Sunshine Posted October 17, 2011 Author Posted October 17, 2011 I have never had an abortion and at 32, that's more than a lot of you preachers. It was an offhand remark and taken way out of context. If I were to become pregnant, I imagine it would all be a lot more complex than "oh I will have an abortion." I'm sick of people waiting for me to say the wrong thing and then jumping down my throat.
Star Gazer Posted October 17, 2011 Posted October 17, 2011 It was an offhand remark and taken way out of context. No it wasn't, you're backpedaling. Most women don't think, "I can always get an abortion" when it comes to considering their birth control options. But you, you do think it.
Mme. Chaucer Posted October 17, 2011 Posted October 17, 2011 It was an offhand remark and taken way out of context. Really? I don't think so. I took it in exactly the context in which it was written. I'm sick of people waiting for me to say the wrong thing and then jumping down my throat. Reality check: nobody was "waiting" for you to say or to do anything. It kind of seems like you just wanted an influx of drama and attention so you posted something incendiary (that, incidentally, made you look so very nasty). And you got a reaction. I don't think that there's any way you are going to be able to turn this into a chance for you to play a victim role. We'll soon see, I guess. I'll preemptively say that if a handful of people read, are as grossed out by that comment as I was and react to it in your thread here, this does NOT mean that they are "ganging up" on poor ES. It simply means that more than one person has a strong reaction to hearing somebody glibly stating that abortion is a birth control method preferable to condoms or birth control pills, due to the various discomforts or inconvenience of those. Anyway, abstinence is the way for you to go, and it seems like your boyfriend will be happy with that.
Citizen Erased Posted October 17, 2011 Posted October 17, 2011 I have never had an abortion and at 32, that's more than a lot of you preachers. It was an offhand remark and taken way out of context. If I were to become pregnant, I imagine it would all be a lot more complex than "oh I will have an abortion." I'm sick of people waiting for me to say the wrong thing and then jumping down my throat. We're not preaching, in fact I'm sure that we're all pro-choice. So even if you have had an abortion, we wouldn't hold it against you, even if you appear to not be able to extend the same courtesy given your remark above. But what you said, it's so rare to find any self respecting adult that would even think that way, let alone be ok with it. Be prepared for people to call you out when you say something like that. I am not sure of the others, but I wasn't waiting for you to write anything. But I was disappointed to read it and it's not something that I personally would just dismiss and not hold anyone accountable for.
OliveOyl Posted October 17, 2011 Posted October 17, 2011 No it wasn't, you're backpedaling. Most women don't think, "I can always get an abortion" when it comes to considering their birth control options. But you, you do think it. Well honestly, a lot of women DO think that way. Doesn't sound good but it's true.
Nexus One Posted October 17, 2011 Posted October 17, 2011 The method is unsafe because there's such a thing called pre-cum. He certainly isn't pulling out when that's going into you. This. It happens nearly every time well before a man actually climaxes, and that's all I'm going to say about it.
louise_23 Posted October 17, 2011 Posted October 17, 2011 There's always abortion worse comes to worst. i dont think thats a good method of contraception at all! what a horrible thing to read.
Els Posted October 17, 2011 Posted October 17, 2011 I have never had an abortion and at 32, that's more than a lot of you preachers. It was an offhand remark and taken way out of context. If I were to become pregnant, I imagine it would all be a lot more complex than "oh I will have an abortion." I'm sick of people waiting for me to say the wrong thing and then jumping down my throat. ...I'm not sure what logical process led you to blame others for reacting to what you said exactly. There have been cases where people 'waited to jump down your throat', and I had defended you then (although you probably didn't notice, given your predisposition). But in this case, anyone who said it would have been 'jumped down'. Especially in writing, you can't type things and then blame people for taking them exactly as they were written. But yes, I agree with Mme that you're saying all this just to get a reaction. At least, I really hope so, because I find it to believe that any person above sixteen years of age can actually say, "I can always get an abortion" as an excuse to not use contraception, and there's a good reason people aren't allowed to have sex at twelve.
oaks Posted October 17, 2011 Posted October 17, 2011 I have never had an abortion and at 32, that's more than a lot of you preachers. Then, with respect, you're probably not in a great position to really consider this as a primary method of birth control. Or, to put it a different way, you wouldn't want to try it a second time. It was an offhand remark Fair enough. Still, find a method of birth control you're both happy with unless you want babies. The pulling out method isn't a method.
xxoo Posted October 17, 2011 Posted October 17, 2011 You know who really uses birth control religiously? Parents Seriously, it is one thing to have never been pregnant and think "Oh, there is always abortion" or "it would be kind of nice to have a baby with him". It is a TOTALLY differently perspective once you've gone through a pregnancy, changed your entire life to fit a baby into it, or gone through with an abortion. You don't romanticize "accidents" after that. Withdrawal puts the fate of you reproduction ENTIRELY in his control. He can do it correctly, or not, but you have no control over what he does. But he is not the one who will get pregnant. Think about it.
zengirl Posted October 17, 2011 Posted October 17, 2011 I have never had an abortion and at 32, that's more than a lot of you preachers. It was an offhand remark and taken way out of context. If I were to become pregnant, I imagine it would all be a lot more complex than "oh I will have an abortion." I'm sick of people waiting for me to say the wrong thing and then jumping down my throat. After reading your threads for over a year now, I still have one question for you: Why don't you ever take ownership of your own words or actions? Nobody made you say it, no one wanted you to say it, no one took it out of context, they simply reacted to the statement. You said it. Why backpedal?
Star Gazer Posted October 25, 2011 Posted October 25, 2011 So, what happened, ES? I'm curious why you had another thread deleted on this subject. Can you tell us?
Dorie Posted October 25, 2011 Posted October 25, 2011 I was looking for that thread to comment this morning. How does one so easily and repeatedly get threads deleted when others request the same and are denied? There was a lot of good advice on that thread.
Star Gazer Posted October 25, 2011 Posted October 25, 2011 I was looking for that thread to comment this morning. How does one so easily and repeatedly get threads deleted when others request the same and are denied? There was a lot of good advice on that thread. GREAT question...
RiverRunning Posted October 25, 2011 Posted October 25, 2011 We always end up working out that way. :/ We're usually weekend-sex people. Sometimes it's great - two or three times in a day. But then it's another full work week without it, if not more sometimes. It depends on the reason. For a long time, my partner had an irrational fear that I would get pregnant. He's mostly gotten over that and our sex life has improved because of it. For a long time, I felt it was because he wasn't attracted to me. I started taking birth control roughly around the time I started losing weight, so after dumping 40 pounds, I was convinced it was because he was more attracted to me that we started having more sex. Maybe it was part of it, though. I lost my libido after he constantly rejected me for sex. It's usually at least a little begrudging on my end to sleep with him. I've started experiencing pain recently too, so that's hindered the sex life all the more. I think it's because I'm depressed too that I've lost desire. Sooner or later we'll work this out, I'm sure. I used to want it 3 - 4 times a week. Once or twice a week is depressing.
Mme. Chaucer Posted October 25, 2011 Posted October 25, 2011 I was looking for that thread to comment this morning. How does one so easily and repeatedly get threads deleted when others request the same and are denied? There was a lot of good advice on that thread. I believe it's possible that a person with great programming skills can hack this system and delete their own thread. ES has said in other threads that she and her bf have discussed her posting here. It would be righteous, yet very painful, if he'd found his way to that thread.
anne1707 Posted October 25, 2011 Posted October 25, 2011 I believe it's possible that a person with great programming skills can hack this system and delete their own thread. ES has said in other threads that she and her bf have discussed her posting here. It would be righteous, yet very painful, if he'd found his way to that thread. But this is not the first of ES's threads about this relationship to be deleted. The options are that LS security is very weak and that her threads are a specific target for deletion (highly doubtful) or that she is able to repeatedly persuade the Mods to delete her threads (yet elsehwere they say that mass deletions are only done if a court order is issued). All very mysterious....
Mme. Chaucer Posted October 25, 2011 Posted October 25, 2011 But this is not the first of ES's threads about this relationship to be deleted. The options are that LS security is very weak and that her threads are a specific target for deletion (highly doubtful) or that she is able to repeatedly persuade the Mods to delete her threads (yet elsehwere they say that mass deletions are only done if a court order is issued). All very mysterious.... I know. Since I've been here, quite a few of her threads have magically disappeared after she's gone to some very unpleasant places in them. Don't you think that a person with well honed programming skills could manage to hack in here and delete stuff?
anne1707 Posted October 25, 2011 Posted October 25, 2011 I know. Since I've been here, quite a few of her threads have magically disappeared after she's gone to some very unpleasant places in them. Don't you think that a person with well honed programming skills could manage to hack in here and delete stuff? Possibly. But it also makes me wonder whether others are enabling her in the sense that her threads generate traffic on this sight
Mme. Chaucer Posted October 25, 2011 Posted October 25, 2011 Whatever. It's ridiculous that out of ALL the regular posters, ONLY ES manages to have absolute editing privileges awarded to her by the powers that be here at LS. Like the "rules" don't apply to her alone? Unless she's hacking, herself, in which case, I think she's awesome.
Author Eternal Sunshine Posted October 25, 2011 Author Posted October 25, 2011 I guess you will never know
Nexus One Posted October 25, 2011 Posted October 25, 2011 Aristocrates! Nous voulons l'égalité! *Drags a guillotine into Loveshack's townsquare*
Nexus One Posted October 25, 2011 Posted October 25, 2011 (edited) I guess you will never know You bribed the mod. Edited October 25, 2011 by Nexus One
OliveOyl Posted October 25, 2011 Posted October 25, 2011 So what's the story? Did you change your mind about the relationship, ES? Is that why your threads disappear?
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