Most of the men aged 25-30 are taken...

[SpleenPoetry]

it's like most decent (nice and kind) men aged 25-30 are taken...

 

what's your opinion on this? Do you know many men in the age range 25-30 that are single? Or are most of them taken?

[fortyninethousand322]

There are some on this forum who are single, some of them can't get a date to save their lives (some never have). I figure those aren't the kind of "single" men you're looking for though.

[ChessPieceFace]

There are some on this forum who are single, some of them can't get a date to save their lives (some never have). I figure those aren't the kind of "single" men you're looking for though.

 

Yeah really. Translation: "All the hot, charismatic alpha males in my age range are taken! WHY??"

[Carlos S]

You don't want most of the taken men anyway

 

I can say that about taken women too

[zengirl]

That's my current dating range, and I didn't have problems when I was single. Of course, the BEST one I found is taken now, as I made him my BF. But he was single when I found him earlier this year.

 

"All the good ones are taken" in ANY age group is ALWAYS a myth, I say, but that age group is still young enough to be quite easy, frankly. If all the ones you want are taken, I suggest adjusting your people-picker.

[ascendotum]

Yeah really. Translation: "All the hot, charismatic alpha males in my age range are taken! WHY??"

 

haha probably, and who managed to snap all these decent men....the beautiful in looks & nauture women, or did most somehow get bamboozled by women below their league. Some of these great guys will go from ST relationship to relationship, you'll still be able to get a crack at them, you just need to be a bit more proative in flirting with guys that take your fancy or hit the online dating site and filter for 25-30.

[ffw]

Do you know many men in the age range 25-30 that are single? Or are most of them taken?

 

Yes, I know one & its me

[udolipixie]

what's your opinion on this?

My opinion is:

Most attractive decent men in your age range are taken.

 

The attractive decent men that aren't taken are mostly dating younger women in their early 20s

 

Do you know many men in the age range 25-30 that are single?

Yes I know plenty of men 25-30 that are single.

 

Most aren't decent men.

 

Those that are decent men aren't attractive at best they are average looking. And average looking isn't the appearance of the majority of these decent men.

 

Or are most of them taken?

No most men 25-30 aren't taken.

 

Most attractive decent men that age are taken or dating younger women in my opinion.

[Andy_K]

There's a lot of truth to the above post. Being a guy in my late twenties, I know quite a few other guys who fall into that age range. They are typically either

 

- Already coupled up

- Unattractive

- Not good boyfriend material

- Date girls in their early twenties

 

As for myself, at 28 I'm yet to get into a relationship with any girl over the age of 23.

[fortyninethousand322]

There's a lot of truth to the above post. Being a guy in my late twenties, I know quite a few other guys who fall into that age range. They are typically either

 

- Already coupled up

- Unattractive

- Not good boyfriend material

- Date girls in their early twenties

 

As for myself, at 28 I'm yet to get into a relationship with any girl over the age of 23.

 

Right on the money on all four counts.

[udolipixie]

Right on the money on all four counts.

 

Yet most guys on here claim men have it harder in the dating scene.

 

Dating is hard for both genders.

[azsinglegal]

They're all being taken up by cougars because there's no commitment.

[fortyninethousand322]

Yet most guys on here claim men have it harder in the dating scene.

 

Dating is hard for both genders.

 

I think that's a different argument altogether though. That post was asserting that most men in their mid to late 20s are either coupled up, unattractive, or not good boyfriend material. All of that is true: if you are a guy who has gotten to age 25 (give or take) and are still single, there's a reason for that and it's not a good reason; it's because you're not a catch. I don't know if the same can be said of women, I'm not saying it's not the case but I just don't know that it is.

 

It's a fact that I've realized and I've tailored by own goals to that reality.

[chucksagent]

Here is some advice if you want the single, successful, have their own place, their own car, not gonna cheat on you, guys who are between 25 and 30. DON'T IGNORE THEM WHEN THEY ARE 18-25 BECAUSE THEY AREN'T THE COOL, TALL, SEXY GUYS, WHO DO DRUGS, AND WILL ULTIMATELY HURT YOU!!!

 

Women are their own worst enemies with relationships, I swear to god they are. I have soooo many female relatives and it's always the same crap. Druggy.....loser....lives with his parents....bum...no job...WHY EVER DATE SOMEONE FROM THE WORD GO THAT HAS DEALBREAKERS FOR YOU!?!?!

 

Women...listen up...(I am screaming in your face as loud as I can and don't get mad at me its for your own good)

 

STOP HOPING MEN WILL CHANGE AFTER YOU START DATING THEM IT WILL NEVER NEVER NEVER NEVER NEVER NEVER NEVER HAPPEN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

And if it does, you are in the tiniest %ile ever, so play the lottery instead - you will win much more.

 

Answer to your question: Secure the good men when they are young.

[udolipixie]

They're all being taken up by cougars because there's no commitment.

 

What's the age range for these cougars taking men 25-30 years old?

 

I'm guessing i 50-70 years old....

 

Not sure how many 25 year old guys are f*cking 50 year old women first off.

 

Not sure how many 50 year old women would be that attractive to have a guy wanting to have sex with her consistently.

 

Unless by cougar you mean 30-40 year old women? Cougars are generally much older than the guy. A 30 year old with a guy in the range 25-30 isn't a cougar. The average couple has the guy being 5 years older and it's not seen as an old man/young woman couple

 

I can get how 40 can be cougar for the 25-29 year olds not sure how it's cougar for the 30 year old men...seeing as how 40 year old men with 30 year old wives often don't see it as an old man/young woman couple.

[somedude81]

There's a lot of truth to the above post. Being a guy in my late twenties, I know quite a few other guys who fall into that age range. They are typically either

 

- Already coupled up

- Unattractive

- Not good boyfriend material

- Date girls in their early twenties

 

As for myself, at 28 I'm yet to get into a relationship with any girl over the age of 23.

 

Right on the money on all four counts.

So which one am I then?

 

I guess the one that fits me the best is unattractive.

 

It's funny how people keep telling me that my height isn't a reason why I'm single when deep down they know it's the truth.

Yet most guys on here claim men have it harder in the dating scene.

 

Dating is hard for both genders.

Because it's true.

 

Hard for a woman is filtering out 100 guys that want her.

 

Hard for a man is finding a girl that would let her date him, and there could be a huge gap of time in between that.

 

While some women are never single longer than two weeks.

[udolipixie]

I think that's a different argument altogether though.

It's a different topic yes so it is a different argument.

 

 

That post was asserting that most men in their mid to late 20s are either coupled up, unattractive, or not good boyfriend material.

I was saying that what those assertions show that guys claims on here that men have it harder in dating is bs and that both genders have it hard.

 

Dating is about finding a partner you are attracted to who is boyfriend/girlfriend material.

 

The posts assertions show achieving that can be and often is difficult for women.

 

 

I don't know if the same can be said of women,

For women in my experiences it's usually:

1. they're not a catch

2. they were dating casually

^ nothing wrong with that it's just that they soon reach an age where good catches for serious relationships and eventual marriage are hard to find

3. they weren't interested in dating when younger

4. they weren't interested in dating when younger since guys thier age weren't serious about it

5. they weren't interested in dating when younger since guys their age were usually focused on sex

 

It's not surprising a lot of women are attracted to older men. If a woman wants to have an attractive guy whose boyfriend material who may later be marriage material the best bet is the older guy when she's young. That way she's not hard pressed finding a good catch when she's mid to late twenties and even harder pressed when older.

 

After all when young the guys her age will usually be not boyfriend material, not into a serious relationship, interested in mainly sex, and if they are looking for a relationship it tends not to last long.

 

Those with relationships when young usually are dating good guys and having happy/healthy relationships however they didn't settle down with any of them. So mid to later twenties women in the position of seeing the good catches are essentially hard to find.

[fortyninethousand322]

So which one am I then?

 

I guess the one that fits me the best is unattractive.

 

It's funny how people keep telling me that my height isn't a reason why I'm single when deep down they know it's the truth.

 

Because it's true.

 

 

Man do you remember what I told you in the other thread? I'm an overly pessimistic person on this particular issue (women and dating), especially in regards to my own situation. I believe everyone is capable of finding someone except me. I'm guessing that's exactly how you feel too though.

 

In any occasion I know several short guys (one is a kind of short pudgy, middle eastern dude) who have girlfriends, pretty good looking ones too. So it's not the height.

 

If anything you almost qualify as the last option "date girls in their early twenties" since that's the age range you usually go for.

[veggirl]

I know one decent guy in this age range who can't get a girl for some reason and wants one BADLY.

I know a bunch in this age range who could probably get girls if they wanted, but they are players and don't want committment.

 

I'd say it's 50/50 in my pool of acquaintences as to in a relationship or not, but I'd also say the majority of those not in one, DON'T want to be in one. Still "sowing their oats" or something, I guess.... they prob won't settle down til they are firmly in thier 30s. (and these are late 20s guys, not 25)

Edited October 14, 2011 by veggirl
clarification

[somedude81]

 

I was saying that what those assertions show that guys claims on here that men have it harder in dating is bs and that both genders have it hard.

 

Dating is about finding a partner you are attracted to who is boyfriend/girlfriend material.

Who do you think is going to have an easier time doing that?

 

The person who can go on dates with eight different people a month or the person who can on dates with two different people a month?

[azsinglegal]

What's the age range for these cougars taking men 25-30 years old?

 

I'm guessing i 50-70 years old....

 

Not sure how many 25 year old guys are f*cking 50 year old women first off.

 

Not sure how many 50 year old women would be that attractive to have a guy wanting to have sex with her consistently.

 

Unless by cougar you mean 30-40 year old women? Cougars are generally much older than the guy. A 30 year old with a guy in the range 25-30 isn't a cougar. The average couple has the guy being 5 years older and it's not seen as an old man/young woman couple

 

I can get how 40 can be cougar for the 25-29 year olds not sure how it's cougar for the 30 year old men...seeing as how 40 year old men with 30 year old wives often don't see it as an old man/young woman couple.

 

Cougars are divorced, rich 45+ women. In Arizona...yes, there are TONS of them. We have bars that are known as "cougar dens" where they hang out. Men they're after 25-35 yr olds.

 

Cougars are NOT 30-40 because that's my age range and I'm not divorced nor rich. Younger women 30-40 I think are called Pumas if they search after 25-30 yr old men.

 

I dated a guy 10 yrs my junior when I was 36. He was dumb as a box of rocks, but oh so fun.

 

I like younger men, but men normally want women younger then them - depending on what they want out of life. Men my age (38) if they're looking ot have kids normally want to date women 25-30. Men who want to date me are normally in the 40-50 age range.

 

So I guess there's no solid answer to your question...age matters mostly on what someone is looking for in a relationship and not so much how many years have passed on the calendar.

[somedude81]

Man do you remember what I told you in the other thread? I'm an overly pessimistic person on this particular issue (women and dating), especially in regards to my own situation. I believe everyone is capable of finding someone except me. I'm guessing that's exactly how you feel too though.

Yeah and I see no reason to believe otherwise.

 

BTW, aren't you several years younger than me, I'm 30.

In any occasion I know several short guys (one is a kind of short pudgy, middle eastern dude) who have girlfriends, pretty good looking ones too. So it's not the height.

 

If anything you almost qualify as the last option "date girls in their early twenties" since that's the age range you usually go for.

Yeah, I'm not exactly dating girls in their 20's. I've been trying to do that for the last 10 years. I wasn't always older than the girls I was interested. So why was I single then?

[udolipixie]

I guess the one that fits me the best is unattractive.

 

It's funny how people keep telling me that my height isn't a reason why I'm single when deep down they know it's the truth.

It's unreasonable that your height is why you're unattractive.

 

Height could be a reason...keyword a...there's body shape, facial features, and facial proportions when talking about attractiveness

 

Hard for a woman is filtering out 100 guys that want her.

Even if that were true what a woman's definition of hard is quantity doesn't mean quality.

 

Those 100 guys could not be relationship material, boyfriend material, they could be boyfriend material but not marriage material, she could not be attracted to them, and they could be incompatible.

 

"100 guys that want her"...want her for what..sex, marriage, dating. Those 100 guys may not want her for the same things she wants.

 

So essentially it's just 100 guys not 100 guys who are relationship material who'd be good boyfriend/husbands for her that want what she wants.

 

Both genders "filter".

 

Or would you be okay and consider it easy if you had 100 unattractive, non relationship material, non boyfriend material, non marriage material, and incompatible girls you aren't attracted wanting you? Don't confuse wanting...they may not want the same things you do.

 

While some women are never single longer than two weeks.

Keyword...some.

 

Dating is about having a person you're attracted whose compatible and relationship/bf or gf/husband or wife material.

 

Just because women can at times find a guy to date easier than men can find a girl to date doesn't mean they have it easier getting that.

 

Never being single for long doesn't mean you have that.

 

Yeah some women can get a guy in a day. However she may not be attracted to the guy, he may want only to f*ck her, they could incompatible, they could have different goals (him-casual & her-serious).

[fortyninethousand322]

Dating is about finding a partner you are attracted to who is boyfriend/girlfriend material.

 

Dating for me is about finding someone half decent/not totally repulsive. I've given up on finding someone I'm uniquely drawn to since that never works out anyway.

 

 

 

It's not surprising a lot of women are attracted to older men. If a woman wants to have an attractive guy whose boyfriend material who may later be marriage material the best bet is the older guy when she's young. That way she's not hard pressed finding a good catch when she's mid to late twenties and even harder pressed when older.

 

After all when young the guys her age will usually be not boyfriend material, not into a serious relationship, interested in mainly sex, and if they are looking for a relationship it tends not to last long.

 

Those with relationships when young usually are dating good guys and having happy/healthy relationships however they didn't settle down with any of them. So mid to later twenties women in the position of seeing the good catches are essentially hard to find.

 

But see I don't think that when guys get older they suddenly become good boyfriend/marriage material. You either are or you're not. Certainly a lot of people (men and women) go through casual stages, but I don't think a guy who wasn't good boyfriend material at 20, suddenly becomes one at 35.

 

What I was trying to get at that I personally am not good boyfriend material, if I was I wouldn't be single right now. It's very likely that I never will be, and certainly my lack of relationship history is a very big red flag to any women I try to date. It's not that big of a deal anyway since women have more choices (due to the higher ratio of young men to young women) so no one is really going to suffer because I'm not in the dating pool.

[udolipixie]

Who do you think is going to have an easier time doing that?

 

The person who can go on dates with eight different people a month or the person who can on dates with two different people a month?

More opportunities doesn't mean easier.

 

Unless the majority of those opportunities have what you want. Or there is more of what you want vs what you don't want.

 

Quantity doesn't mean you'll get quality, quantity doesn't mean most of those will be quality, or that you'll have a better chance getting it.

 

You can go through 8 people and not one of them can give you that. While you can date 2 people a month and get it.