Woggle Posted October 12, 2011 Posted October 12, 2011 We always hear things like. Men are hardwired to spread their seed so that is why they cheat. Women are hardwired to seek out sperm from scumbags so that is why they lust after jerks. There are also plenty of other excuses that reduce human beings to the level of unfeeling and unthinking animals. Human beings have accomplished great things in science, technology, medicine and other areas but somehow we are completely incapable of controlling ourselves when it comes to sex and relationships?
vsmini Posted October 12, 2011 Posted October 12, 2011 It's just a lame excuse. As someone who worked her butt off in college to get a degree in Genetics with a concentration in human evolution it burns my cookies to see people use the excuse that it's just "natural." I don't think so buddy - first off these people don't know sh*t about biology and second - don't talk to me about natural. We live in an age where we are so far removed from a natural way of living that the point is obsolete. We have facebook, internet dating, McDonalds and space programs - don't pull out the caveman card on me. Sure, people get the urge to fantasize or want to be with another man or woman aside from their SO....I think that's natural. But if you've made a committment and then break it and blame it on evolution that's crap. We're capable of controlling ourselves. The want might be a natural urge but the act itself is not.
Sanman Posted October 12, 2011 Posted October 12, 2011 Because it is easier to come up with a rationalization for poor behavior than it is to accept that you may not be as good a person as you think you are. Everybody wants to feel like they are a good person and doing the right thing. I'm sure Hitler felt that way about himself too.
Feelin Frisky Posted October 12, 2011 Posted October 12, 2011 Those are gross generalizations that are not near accurate and thus are largely unhelpful in communicating reality. I wouldn't bother getting upset about it. There are lots of gross generalizations being cast daily in which people try to give themselves power through expedient characterization or mischaracterization.
LittleTiger Posted October 12, 2011 Posted October 12, 2011 We always hear things like. Men are hardwired to spread their seed so that is why they cheat. Women are hardwired to seek out sperm from scumbags so that is why they lust after jerks. There are also plenty of other excuses that reduce human beings to the level of unfeeling and unthinking animals. Human beings have accomplished great things in science, technology, medicine and other areas but somehow we are completely incapable of controlling ourselves when it comes to sex and relationships? I don't know where you read this stuff Woggle. I've never seen anyone write what you've said here - that people can't control themselves because of biology (Women are hardwired to seek out sperm from scumbags???Come on, nobody ever said that surely?). Maybe it's in the infidelity section that I don't read because I find it too depressing - perhaps you would do well to steer clear of that area too? I do believe we can't control our natural urges and desires and we can't control who we are attracted to BUT we can control whether we act on those urges, desires and attractions. Anyone who says otherwise is just trying to excuse their own behaviour. Why do they do it? Because when someone is cheating they will justify it in any way they can.
Author Woggle Posted October 12, 2011 Author Posted October 12, 2011 You always hear about how women will have a baby with a player but then get a dependable guy to provide for it while sometimes making him think he is the father.
LittleTiger Posted October 12, 2011 Posted October 12, 2011 You always hear about how women will have a baby with a player but then get a dependable guy to provide for it while sometimes making him think he is the father. You may always hear about such women Woggle, I don't know anyone like this personally and nor have I heard about someone doing this - except from you. If you know or hear of women who do such things I suggest you find a different set of people to hang out with.
EasyHeart Posted October 12, 2011 Posted October 12, 2011 We always hear things like. Men are hardwired to spread their seed so that is why they cheat. Women are hardwired to seek out sperm from scumbags so that is why they lust after jerks. There are also plenty of other excuses that reduce human beings to the level of unfeeling and unthinking animals. Human beings have accomplished great things in science, technology, medicine and other areas but somehow we are completely incapable of controlling ourselves when it comes to sex and relationships?Because it relieves them from responsibility for their behavior. Evolutionary psychology is a legitimate field of study, but it's easy for people to misuse science.
Mme. Chaucer Posted October 12, 2011 Posted October 12, 2011 Because it relieves them from responsibility for their behavior. Evolutionary psychology is a legitimate field of study, but it's easy for people to misuse science. That's the answer. Woggle, I sincerely appreciate a thread from you about why people do this or that funky thing, rather than only women.
carhill Posted October 12, 2011 Posted October 12, 2011 IMO, the 'why' is rooted in the ego and id; a web of rationalization to spin poor behavior into justifiable behavior. The nebulous of biology, and in particular our ancient drives, is perfect fodder for such webs. Here's an interesting post from another thread which touches upon your topic. I must say, as much as I'd like to argue that point, it aligns with the *actions* of nearly every MW I've encountered in life and the *words* they justify those actions with. Are such people a marked minority? Perhaps. That said, understanding the dynamic and accepting it makes for wiser people-picking IMO. Armed with that information and insight, I'm looking forward to encountering more and more exceptions to past commonalities. Biology evolved.
Author Woggle Posted October 12, 2011 Author Posted October 12, 2011 You may always hear about such women Woggle, I don't know anyone like this personally and nor have I heard about someone doing this - except from you. If you know or hear of women who do such things I suggest you find a different set of people to hang out with. Read the infidelity forum and you always see this come up. The way I read this forum is just clicking on new posts. To me LS is just one big forum instead of a bunch of sub forums.
AHardDaysNight Posted October 12, 2011 Posted October 12, 2011 I think there is some truth to the "biology." Women have gone after the same type of man for millions of years. It's not suddenly going to change.
LittleTiger Posted October 12, 2011 Posted October 12, 2011 Read the infidelity forum and you always see this come up. The way I read this forum is just clicking on new posts. To me LS is just one big forum instead of a bunch of sub forums. LS certainly is one big forum and presumably you don't have the time nor the inclincation to read every single post? As in real life, we have a choice about what to read on here and, for anyone who has a tendency to think badly of at least half the human race I would have thought the infidelity forum was the last place you'd want to visit! In what way does feeding your hatred and insecurity benefit you? I'm genuinely curious!
Yamaha Posted October 13, 2011 Posted October 13, 2011 Evolutionary psychology ^^^^^This..... It gives a reason to the emotions/intellect you want to enact.
AHardDaysNight Posted October 13, 2011 Posted October 13, 2011 What I mean by biology is... Women are generally attracted to big muscles. They're generally attracted to confidence. They're generally attracted to classically beautiful features. They're generally attracted to someone with high social status. Generally, however, is a pretty big word, and it doesn't encompass ALL women. There are women that defy the norm, same as there are men who defy the norm of general attractiveness, and end up in relationships. How well you do with dating really boils down to evolutionary psychology, genetics, circumstances, and a hell of a lot of luck!
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