Imajerk17 Posted October 8, 2011 Posted October 8, 2011 (edited) at least when it comes to women. Nothing good can come from asking a woman anything. You're a lot better just going for what you want and reading the signals she is giving, as far as whether you should back off. Put your hands on the girl you're on a date with ASAP. Don't be creepy about it, but guide her by the small of the back when you're walking. I'm a fan of going for the kiss within 20 minutes into the first date. If she rejects you for that (which is NOT the same as turning you down in the moment because she might come around) then she was never interested and you saved yourself some time. You'd be surprised though. A woman respects a man who goes for what he wants. Anyway, posting this because I see a lot of tentative guys on here. Edited October 8, 2011 by Imajerk17
ShannonMI Posted October 8, 2011 Posted October 8, 2011 at least when it comes to women. Nothing good can come from asking a woman anything. You're a lot better just going for what you want and reading the signals she is giving, as far as whether you should back off. Put your hands on the girl you're on a date with ASAP. Don't be creepy about it, but guide her by the small of the back when you're walking. I'm a fan of going for the kiss within 20 minutes into the first date. If she rejects you for that (which is NOT the same as turning you down in the moment because she might come around) then she was never interested and you saved yourself some time. You'd be surprised though. A woman respects a man who goes for what he wants. Anyway, posting this because I see a lot of tentative guys on here. You still have no tact dude. I wouldn't want a guy I don't know putting his hands on me. On my back or anywhere else. And what's wrong with asking? You don't like women very much. It's so obvious.
Author Imajerk17 Posted October 8, 2011 Author Posted October 8, 2011 (edited) For example, I have this hiking trail where I often take women for a first date. It's rocky so I extend my hand to the girl to help her out. Now I'm looking chivalrous AND I'm holding her hand! Then there's this overlook where we sit down. I put my arms around her shoulders and say something "deep" about the view (I say the same thing each time but say it like it's the first time I'm saying it haha), and if she is game (she usually is) I lean in for a kiss. And if you kiss a girl so early on, it's all on the fast track. Pretty smooth eh? Edited October 8, 2011 by Imajerk17
oaks Posted October 8, 2011 Posted October 8, 2011 For example, I have this hiking trail where I often take women for a first date. It's rocky so I extend my hand to the girl to help her out. Now I'm looking chivalrous AND I'm holding her hand! Then there's this overlook where we sit down. I put my arms around her shoulders and say something "deep" about the view (I say the same thing each time but say it like it's the first time I'm saying it haha), and if she is game (she usually is) I lean in for a kiss. And if you kiss a girl so early on, it's all on the fast track. Pretty smooth eh? Depends if she's thinking "That sounded smooth. I wonder how many other girls he brought up here and tried that line. I bet it didn't work the last time, either. :rolleyes:"
ShannonMI Posted October 8, 2011 Posted October 8, 2011 For example, I have this hiking trail where I often take women for a first date. It's rocky so I extend my hand to the girl to help her out. Now I'm looking chivalrous AND I'm holding her hand! Then there's this overlook where we sit down. I put my arms around her shoulders and say something "deep" about the view (I say the same thing each time but say it like it's the first time I'm saying it haha), and if she is game (she usually is) I lean in for a kiss. And if you kiss a girl so early on, it's all on the fast track. Pretty smooth eh? Extending your hand for the girl to take is nice, but trying to kiss her right away rarely works unless she's really into you or she's a whore. And the fast track to where exactly? Into her pants?
ShannonMI Posted October 8, 2011 Posted October 8, 2011 Trying to go for the kiss within twenty minutes of meeting her would ensure you weed out all but the most hardened of skanks. If that's the demographic you're after, it might be a good strategy. I think it's the demographic he's after for sure. He doesn't think much of women.
Author Imajerk17 Posted October 8, 2011 Author Posted October 8, 2011 Trying to go for the kiss within twenty minutes of meeting her would ensure you weed out all but the most hardened of skanks. If that's the demographic you're after, it might be a good strategy. I do wonder, how many of them were just trying to sweet-talk their way into MY pants, and just let me think this was all just myself being so smooth.
ShannonMI Posted October 8, 2011 Posted October 8, 2011 I do wonder, how many of them were just trying to sweet-talk their way into MY pants, and just let me think this was all just myself being so smooth. Well once they discover what's in your pants or what's lacking in your pants, I'm sure they move on.
Author Imajerk17 Posted October 8, 2011 Author Posted October 8, 2011 (edited) Depends if she's thinking "That sounded smooth. I wonder how many other girls he brought up here and tried that line. I bet it didn't work the last time, either. :rolleyes:" In all seriousness, you have to feel the girl out. I'm NOT advocating date-rape! No means no, OK? If you put your arm around her (while you're looking at her) and she looks away from you, she isn't ready to be kissed. It's OK. Don't let your arm linger on her shoulder though. Pull it away, caressing her back with your hands as you do so. And don't do this unless you are into the girl in some way. It's not cool to play with the emotions of the people you date. I am hiking with the girl because I do see something admirable about her, something special and unique. Edited October 8, 2011 by Imajerk17
FitChick Posted October 8, 2011 Posted October 8, 2011 I think he has the right idea but the timing is off. Too fast. Kiss her at the end of the first date only if she has favorably responded to your more subtle previous moves. If, for some reason, you were holding her hand then went to open a door for her or jump over some obstacle in the outdoors, then walked closely but did not grab her hand again but SHE grabbed yours, that is your signal. Make her wait till the end of the date and then you are more likely to get a yes to asking her out again.
thatone Posted October 9, 2011 Posted October 9, 2011 You still have no tact dude. I wouldn't want a guy I don't know putting his hands on me. On my back or anywhere else. And what's wrong with asking? You don't like women very much. It's so obvious. see, that's a cultural difference. a lot of women i've met will use "putting his hand on my back when we cross the street" as an example of little things right along with opening doors that men don't do anymore, which bothers them because they want men to do it.
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