Another question about porn

[Elysian Powder]

When is this the case? I think most of us joke about being able to live without the other sex but I doubt there is any truth to it. In reality, we like what the other gender has to offer us.

 

Wait until the economical crisis grows to the point of men having no option but to retreat from the dating world since they can't pay for the dating/marriage/alimony/child-support, and also, because men are going to grow increasingly intolerant of the games/whishy-whash behavior of many women. Porn will be instantly banned, and you'll have to attach yourself to a woman, lest you want to pay massive taxes.

 

They picked the sperm banks apart by making child-support mandatory for all of the man who gave their sperm to the sperm bank; it quite seems to me that men are starting to live without women.

[Ginger Beer]

Well I have a question for all the guys who think that all women have a problem with porn.

Why is it that it is okay for you to have your porn, but in my case I have seen men 100% jealous of my own personal collection with my favorite performers that mixes well with my silver bullet.

Men get all moody and jealous about it too? Why is this?

 

Because when I've finished watching porn, I don't even think about the people involved in the videos. Don't slate me for this but I've seen posters on here make the point that when women have affairs, they're emotionally driven.

 

And I've had bad experiences with my ex, too. When I compliment women, celebrities or real life, it'd be something like 'yeah she's attractive' or something, but with her it'd be 'he is actually beautiful, I love him'.

 

And to me that feels really hurtful. But I wouldn't have a problem with any girlfriend watching porn as long as it was done in the right way.

[udolipixie]

If this is how they really feel about shouldn't they be glad that many of us are looking at our porn and playing our video games and leaving them the hell alone?

 

If men want to find some joy without women why is this a bad thing since all we hear about is how happier they are without men?

 

The women who say those things about men and yet get upset about p*rn most likely don't like the thought of being so easily replaced.

 

Just like the men who think women are nothing but cum dumpsters. Shouldn't often get upset at the thought that there are women who are capable of providing for themselves and don't need men.

 

Some people like to think they are superior and that their is no alternative or anything better than them.

Why not let men have our happiness with porn and leave women alone?

With this question lack of leaving these women alone.....I'm going with perhaps because some of the women complaining about p*rn aren't the women who have the feelings that men are overgrown babies.

 

It's like saying since some men think women are cum dumpster why not let women have their happiness using men...rather than using these men.

[udolipixie]

I attended a work party 6 months ago and wound up sitting with a large number of female colleagues. One was explaining how disgusting she felt knowing that her boyfriend had once owned and used a blowup doll for masturbatory purposes. Every woman at the table wrinkled her nose and agreed that it's simply nasty for a guy to do something like that. I scratched my head and asked the lady if she owned a dildo... and she replied that she in fact owned two.

 

I think hypocrisy is such a natural state for most women they fail to even notice it.

 

I think hypocrisy is a natural state for most people.

 

As for comparing a dildo to a blow up doll...while both are masturbatory tools. The dildo objectifies male genitalia while the blow up doll is more of a replacement of a woman and objectifying a woman's body. Maybe the level of objectification she perceived was what disgusted her?

 

A better comparing would be asking if she uses a blow up doll.

 

If her bf had used a pocket p*ssy then asking if she used a dildo would have been a nice comparison.

[udolipixie]

hypocrisy? No. It's all about power and survival; most women had absolute power over the sexuality of men, right before porn, prostitution, and even religion were created. Without a man's interest in a woman's sex; what can a woman offer to a man?

 

Love? LOL

Are you aware that LOL applies to men as well?

 

Both genders are capable of offering love, compassion, and companionship....keyword capable.

 

Even when love is given stat wise only 1/10 couples remain in love.

 

 

Something I noticed when I visited the uk. Women will (try) insult men by calling them ''wankers''. Well, most people masturbate, but women refined a natural act into a sort of shaming tool; the time the man is spending on masturbation is time(and resources) not spent on a woman, a state of things that women abhor.

 

Pretty overreaching there.

 

That's just like saying men use women dressing fashionably as a sort of shaming tool..the time women spend on looking physically attractive for themselves and not spent looking sexually attractive for men is a state of things that men abhor.

 

Fashion excluding lingerie and erotica is about artistic expression or looking physically attractive. Just because most get sexually attracted to those they find physically attractive does not mean that was the intent that's just a by product.

 

It's more like a confusion..guys mistaking their sexual attraction as being the intent of the dress..girls getting upset that he would prefer solo time to actual women.

 

And far more risky; stds, child-support, alimony, false rape-reports, and sexual addiction. Any smart man is not going to make sex or women his focus on life.

Being with either gender is risky. Women get the stds, sexual assault, and rape.

 

On the note of stds men are twice more likely to give an std to a woman than to get one.

[udolipixie]

because men are going to grow increasingly intolerant of the games/whishy-whash behavior of many women.

Plenty of women are tired of the games/whishy-whash behavior of many men. Plenty of women are also tired of men who think their personality/good qualities should compensate for her not being attracted to him...odd how these types of men usually think their personality should compensate for their looks yet choose women they are attracted to.

 

 

it quite seems to me that men are starting to live without women.

 

That actually seems to be going both ways.

 

There were articles about both Japanese males and females not interacting with each other. Men preferring p*rn, friendship, hobbies, sports, and video games to dating with women preferring career, planned single parenthood, hobbies, and traveling to dating.

[AHardDaysNight]

I think hypocrisy is a natural state for most people.

 

As for comparing a dildo to a blow up doll...while both are masturbatory tools. The dildo objectifies male genitalia while the blow up doll is more of a replacement of a woman and objectifying a woman's body. Maybe the level of objectification she perceived was what disgusted her?

 

A better comparing would be asking if she uses a blow up doll.

 

If her bf had used a pocket p*ssy then asking if she used a dildo would have been a nice comparison.

 

I think men who use blowup dolls are pretty much laughingstocks, because they're essentially buying something that resembles a woman, but doesn't mimic a real woman.

 

It's like having sex with someone who's dead. A necrophiliac I would compare to someone who owned a blowup doll.

 

I know of a member here who has a real doll. And those things creep me out. However, he seems to be happy with it, and in that sense, I suppose it works for him.

 

I've found some things that some women do as completely disgusting, even within a sexual relationship. Anal sex, for instance. I'd rather pay someone for a blowup doll than engage in anal sex, even with a hot girl.

[OnyxSnowfall]

Because, many of those same men DO NOT leave me alone.

 

I've had men up in arms when I've told them I'm not interested in more with them because of their porn use etc... several of those men *still* pursued me. Some even said they reduced their viewings by half / one third / enter amount here and that I should give them a chance because of it one was so proud of himself, that he stopped viewing "illegal" stuff for me, what was my problem? He then proceeded to insult me and call me a stuck-up bitch... and then apologized the next day and asked me out

 

Yes, have at the unhealthy lifestyle, just don't try to bring me into it.

 

I still wouldn't recommend it for those who are seeking to improve their own well-being and life but... I'm not going to lose sleep over such choices that others make.

[AHardDaysNight]

Illegal porn?

 

Anything 18 and over is legal, so are you talking about minors? If so, I don't blame you for avoiding those creeps; pedos are so sick!

 

If you're talking just regular porn, no it's not illegal. As long as minors aren't involved, it's probably legal.

[fortyninethousand322]

Women don't like me anyway, why should I care if they don't like the fact that I watch porn? It's not like if I stopped they'd suddenly like me...

[AHardDaysNight]

Women don't like me anyway, why should I care if they don't like the fact that I watch porn? It's not like if I stopped they'd suddenly like me...

 

I feel the same way.

 

I like what I like. It's clear that women, for whatever reason, don't like me as I am. What would change if I suddenly stopped watching porn, other than I would get horny and get lots of inappropriate erections in public around hot girls?

[OnyxSnowfall]

I haven't read all the responses but...

 

Without a man's interest in a woman's sex; what can a woman offer to a man?

 

AFFECTION... SUPPORT... CONNECTION...

 

At least, my partner has appreciated the ways I've put him before me (and vice versa). Even just making him meals and cleaning up after him... or my in-put in regards to his projects or in regards to his ideas and theories... or surprising him with things that let him know I've been listening to him and have been considering him etc...

 

both men and women can offer one another companionship.

 

Sex is one aspect of a relationship --- admittedly I find it a crucial one within my chosen long-term companion... but there's a whole lot more to a relationship than just sex.

 

IF someone is seeking a meaningful relationship, chances are they will find it.

 

IF someone is seeking a superficial relationship, chances are they will find it.

 

Don't bind yourself to anyone who may just be using you and who is not interested in your well-being... IF you want someone who truly cares and if you are looking for someone to truly care about. That much is just common sense.

 

Some people DO get genuinely deceived by others, and it is tragic.

 

But some people DO genuinely fall in love and make efforts to prioritize one another before themselves... they persevere through the struggles in life and can BOND from it...

 

Like I stated before, money can buy empty services... but those, at their core, aren't worth much.

[OnyxSnowfall]

Illegal porn?

 

Anything 18 and over is legal, so are you talking about minors? If so, I don't blame you for avoiding those creeps; pedos are so sick!

 

If you're talking just regular porn, no it's not illegal. As long as minors aren't involved, it's probably legal.

 

Pedophilia yes. He made mention of snuff films...... I didn't inquire further.

[udolipixie]

I think men who use blowup dolls are pretty much laughingstocks, because they're essentially buying something that resembles a woman, but doesn't mimic a real woman.

I think men who buy blow up dolls should upgrade to robotic women..they exist now and you can program them with sexual personalities. Some even mimic eating and can have quite a range of ai conversation.

 

I know of a member here who has a real doll. And those things creep me out. However, he seems to be happy with it, and in that sense, I suppose it works for him.

No need to put his business out there especially when you find it so distasteful and in the same post pretty much called him a laughingstock. Hopefully this member didn't reveal this information to you in confidence.

[AHardDaysNight]

Pedophilia yes. He made mention of snuff films...... I didn't inquire further.

 

Snuff films don't exist.

 

There's a bunch of fake stuff out on the internet. But as for "real snuff films", nah he probably was yanking your chain.

 

I'm sure the police have real snuff films in their vault. Unless he had access to those, or was making them himself (which is scary!), he probably was lying.

[AHardDaysNight]

As for the member who I said that about, no I didn't call him a laughingstock. I said that most people who own blowup dolls are *considered* laughingstocks.

 

But feel free to put words in my mouth. I was eating right then, anyway. I can chew on someone else's words, however distasteful they are.

[udolipixie]

As for the member who I said that about, no I didn't call him a laughingstock. I said that most people who own blowup dolls are *considered* laughingstocks.

 

But feel free to put words in my mouth. I was eating right then, anyway. I can chew on someone else's words, however distasteful they are.

 

I didn't put any words in your mouth.

 

You didn't state most people who own blowup dolls are considered laughingstocks. You stated you think men who use them are pretty much laughingstocks.

 

If that's a misunderstand the "I think" part without Society regards or in general are considered threw me off.

 

I think men who use blowup dolls are pretty much laughingstocks, because they're essentially buying something that resembles a woman, but doesn't mimic a real woman.

 

It's like having sex with someone who's dead. A necrophiliac I would compare to someone who owned a blowup doll.

I know of a member here who has a real doll. And those things creep me out. However, he seems to be happy with it, and in that sense, I suppose it works for him.

 

I've found some things that some women do as completely disgusting, even within a sexual relationship. Anal sex, for instance. I'd rather pay someone for a blowup doll than engage in anal sex, even with a hot girl.

 

My response:

No need to put his business out there especially when you find it so distasteful and in the same post pretty much called him a laughingstock. Hopefully this member didn't reveal this information to you in confidence.

[D-Lish]

Woggle, you can't stop HATING women, you're never going to get better. You've been on here almost as long as me, and you've never made a true step forward. It seems you make minor progress and then you go back so far, it's evident you aren't someone that can be helped or saved.

 

Just live the rest of your life believing all women are whores and ball-busters.

[Woggle]

Is it not obvious that many women feel this way? Just look at the walkway wife epidemic and how often you hear about how women think of men as overgrown babies and would rather be single. If this is the way they really feel why get mad when men find some sexual release on our own.

[udolipixie]

Is it not obvious that many women feel this way? Just look at the walkway wife epidemic and how often you hear about how women think of men as overgrown babies and would rather be single.

 

It's obvious that there are women that feel that way.

 

As for the walkway wife epidemic...ever thought fading feelings, abuse, incompatibility, sexual imbalance are also contributors? It's like saying since men stat wise cheat more often that's a reason to hate men or say men are less serious about relationships than women. Since with divorces and cheating there can be a lot of factors.

 

As for how often you hear about how women think of men as overgrown babies and would rather be single...I see tons of negative comments and generalizations about women on here more than about men..my turnarounds to show ridiculousness in gender hate don't count

 

I also hear negative comments about women from men in my life and pretty sure there are women on here who have heard it as well...cum dumpsters...men don't need women.

 

As for the single thing haven't men conquered, idealized, and admired the whole bachelor forever lifestyle?

 

 

If this is the way they really feel why get mad when men find some sexual release on our own.

The issue here is that you're not just asking why do women with issues with men or hate men get mad at men watching p*rn. You're also suggesting that all/most/many women have these issues or hate men.

[OnyxSnowfall]

Is it not obvious that many women feel this way? Just look at the walkway wife epidemic and how often you hear about how women think of men as overgrown babies and would rather be single. If this is the way they really feel why get mad when men find some sexual release on our own.

 

No it's not obvious.

 

Especially when a woman herself does NOT feel that way towards her current partner, and perhaps past partners.

 

Let's be real, the present generations of males are growing up with pornography before even fully fathoming what sex itself is. It's not something they're resorting to because of a sexless relationship with a woman etc --- it's what "they know" before they're even in one.

 

Not to say there are NOT men who resort to it around today etc...

 

Anyway,

 

Ultimately I agree with D-Lish. I haven't even BEEN here that long and I agree

[Woggle]

Do you think that I don't try to really see women in the most positive light? I try so hard to look for examples of woman who prove me wrong but I can only find a few.

 

Just look at the divorce statistics these days and the way women seem to think living with a man is some horrible hell. Loving relationships and certainly marriages are concepts that are on their death bed. Why not let some of these men just find joy on their own?

[OnyxSnowfall]

Do you think that I don't try to really see women in the most positive light? I try so hard to look for examples of woman who prove me wrong but I can only find a few.

 

Just look at the divorce statistics these days and the way women seem to think living with a man is some horrible hell. Loving relationships and certainly marriages are concepts that are on their death bed. Why not let some of these men just find joy on their own?

 

Um, what about the men who complain about their worthless, nagging bitchy wives?

 

it's about HUMANS.

 

HUMANS.

 

Not gender... HUMANS. There are weak people. There are people who spread their misery. There are people who are unhappy. There are people who use others. There are people who are abusive. There are people who cheat, lie, deceive. There are people who don't have values. There are people who are selfish.

 

THEN there are PEOPLE who are strong. People who try not to spread their misery and instead strive to understand / forgive / have compassion. There are people who are happy. Who sacrifice. Who treat others with kindness. Who are honest. Who have values. Who try to be considerate.

 

ETC.

 

PEOPLE.

 

Man or woman.

 

...

[udolipixie]

Do you think that I don't try to really see women in the most positive light? I try so hard to look for examples of woman who prove me wrong but I can only find a few.

 

I do think you don't really try.

 

You advocate women do what you seem very unwilling to do.

 

You often use the same tactics you claim to detest that women use when hating or negatively commenting on men.

 

You continue to make statements about what one women did so it must mean all women think this way.

 

My ex made fun of me for crying over a friend's murder so that shows what they think of men crying.

 

Would you be upset if in a discussion about 'what do men think about rape' if a woman stated "I know of a guy who laughed and said women deserved to be rape so we know what they think about rape"?

 

 

Just look at the divorce statistics these days and the way women seem to think living with a man is some horrible hell. Loving relationships and certainly marriages are concepts that are on their death bed.

 

Look at cheating statistics and look at some mens view on rapes, sexual assaults, and sexual harassment.

 

Look at how the way some men seem to think a woman is easily replaceable and offers nothing while he himself offers something of superior quality simply because he has a d*ck. Look at how the way some men seem to think living with a woman is some horrible hell.

 

Look at how only 1/10 couples remain in love.

 

The negatives doesn't validate only viewing the negatives and brushing off the positives. Focusing on one aspect whether it's the positive or the negative and brushing off the other is ridiculous and unhealthy.

 

 

Why not let some of these men just find joy on their own?

Once again this isn't the issue. The issue seems to be that you way of suggesting that the way these women who hate men think are the way all/most/many women think.

[xxoo]

Why not let some of these men just find joy on their own?

 

Who is stopping a grown man from using porn?

 

I'd likely regard a man who indulged in hours of porn and video games daily as an overgrown baby. Doesn't mean I'm stopping him. We make our choices, and create our destinies.

 

As for why women don't just leave men alone--probably because they are looking for men who don't act that way?