U1987 Posted September 19, 2011 Posted September 19, 2011 So when I first joined OKC, I took that questionnaire they offer; your answers give you a 0%-100% score in a Match, Friends and Enemy category with every other member. I didn't think much of it at the time; part of me thought it would be a good tool, but now I'm worried that it's disqualifying me from a lot of girls; a lot of girls I find attractive have higher Friend and Enemy scores. I'm a pretty clean cut, conservative guy to be honest, I've kinda wanted a punk or indie girl, but of course, the punk and indie girls are all listed as 70%-80% Enemies based on our personality scores. Should I delete my questionnaire answers on OKC? If you're a girl on OKC and a guy messaged you, would you be put off if you saw he didn't answers any questions and came up 0% Match, 0% Friend, 0% Enemy?
Voldar Posted September 19, 2011 Posted September 19, 2011 Good question, I too am curious about this.
oaks Posted September 19, 2011 Posted September 19, 2011 If you have a low match score then (excepting cases where you or she only answered a tiny number of questions in common) it means that you don't share the same values and, basically, you AREN'T A MATCH for her. Even if she's hot. You can look through the answers that you and she have in common (assuming you both answered them publicly) and see what you disagreed on.
grkBoy Posted September 19, 2011 Posted September 19, 2011 I dunno U1987. If you're more conservative, then the punk/indie thing sounds more like a fetish fantasy for you. I think in the long run you won't find much in common with those women and thus be turned off. It's like when I see guys who want an educated career woman who looks fantastic...but they want her to become Ms Happy Homemaker now who cooks, cleans, raises the kids, and makes the man the head of household. You can't have it both ways. You're better off pursuing someone who shares a lot with you and not just a passing fancy. THAT...or go answer more questions honestly and see if you can find commonality with the punk/indie girls. Even ask questions into the system you think would show commonality. That system exists for a reason...to help people find others of similar qualities and mentalities.
GivenUp0083 Posted September 19, 2011 Posted September 19, 2011 I hear women look heavily into match % so you need to lie in your answers to make you seem a certain way. It's the only way to get your percentage up to where you'd match with most decent women. Just don't answer honestly, instead think of what affect the question will have on your "personality vs the average".
oaks Posted September 19, 2011 Posted September 19, 2011 I hear women look heavily into match % so you need to lie in your answers to make you seem a certain way. It's the only way to get your percentage up to where you'd match with most decent women. Just don't answer honestly, instead think of what affect the question will have on your "personality vs the average". So, it's okay to lie on a dating site in order to entice a woman into responding to you?
Mme. Chaucer Posted September 19, 2011 Posted September 19, 2011 So, it's okay to lie on a dating site in order to entice a woman into responding to you? I don't think it's okay. But it's what the OP is all about.
Calutaxi484 Posted September 19, 2011 Posted September 19, 2011 Can you read other people's surveys? That would probably be pretty useful if you might want to find out if/why you wouldn't be a good match. It's always better to kind of know that upfront. I was on a 2nd date with a woman when she said " I think teachers deserve to make as much as doctors" and that was more or less an instakill for me. If you guys don't jive well on an idealogical level how would you ever expect to have a relationship? PETA chicks don't like hunters, no amount of cute is going to make that up.
oaks Posted September 19, 2011 Posted September 19, 2011 I don't think it's okay. I wouldn't expect you to, Mme. Chaucer! But it's what the OP is all about. and GivenUp0083, it seems.
oaks Posted September 19, 2011 Posted September 19, 2011 Can you read other people's surveys? That would probably be pretty useful if you might want to find out if/why you wouldn't be a good match. Yes. Well, when you answer a question you can have your answer 'public' or 'private', and you can only see someone else's answer to a question if they have made their answer public and you have also answered that question with your answer public. Then it will even show you if the answers you gave are the ones the other person was hoping their ideal match would give (and vice versa).
OnyxSnowfall Posted September 19, 2011 Posted September 19, 2011 (edited) It's an attempt to determine compatibility. If you're being disqualified based on the matching percentage, it's probably for a reason (doesn't mean it's necessarily a good one...but it could very well be) The system is certainly not unerring... and it cannot ascertain a true match with someone. I mostly viewed it as giving people a more definitive place to start in doing so... and also partially as a fun way to explore some questions people probably wouldn't otherwise ask each other (though there were certainly some serious and important ones...). If someone's profile was written eloquently and seemed interesting to me, I wouldn't care if they hadn't answered any of the questions. Some of the questions *were* just silly and a lot of them didn't have an option for the actual answer I'd at least give... With that said, if you are going to answer them, it's just counter-productive to be untruthful. It *can* be a good tool to use when looking for someone, if prudent judgment is exercised and clarification is sought... (Although, the few times I ever accepted the WTF reports [or whatever they're called], I did so because the enemy scores from those men were actually really high. Curiosity led me to discover those men answered questions that implied they were generally into drugs, porn stars / one night stands / debauchery, didn't have qualms with violent illegal activities, didn't appreciate art, didn't care about accumulating skills and or knowledge, mocked spirituality, disliked nature etc. Matters that are quite important to me in one way or another =B... while there was one I specifically recall as differing in ultimately trivial ways [and they claimed to have not put a lot of thought into their answers... and just didn't want to *skip* any]) Edited September 19, 2011 by OnyxSnowfall
Mme. Chaucer Posted September 19, 2011 Posted September 19, 2011 Can you read other people's surveys? That would probably be pretty useful if you might want to find out if/why you wouldn't be a good match. It's always better to kind of know that upfront. I was on a 2nd date with a woman when she said " I think teachers deserve to make as much as doctors" and that was more or less an instakill for me. If you guys don't jive well on an idealogical level how would you ever expect to have a relationship? PETA chicks don't like hunters, no amount of cute is going to make that up. To all the helpful people: THE OP IS NOT LOOKING FOR A RELATIONSHIP. HE DOES NOT CARE IF HE IS COMPATIBLE WITH A WOMAN ON ANY LEVEL WHATSOEVER, AS LONG AS SHE IS "HOT". HE DISLIKES SPENDING TIME DOING ANY ACTIVITY WITH WOMEN (BESIDES SEX, EXCEPT THAT NEVER ACTUALLY HAPPENS). HE WANTS CASUAL SEX ONLY, BUT IS NOT OPEN TO REVEALING THIS. SO, HE IS PRETENDING TO BE INTERESTED IN A RELATIONSHIP IN THE HOPES OF "TRICKING" SOME EXTREME HOTTIES INTO ALLOWING HIM TO USE HER ORIFICES. I recommend tailoring your helpful posts so that they will be in line with his actual goals.
OnyxSnowfall Posted September 19, 2011 Posted September 19, 2011 To all the helpful people: THE OP IS NOT LOOKING FOR A RELATIONSHIP. HE DOES NOT CARE IF HE IS COMPATIBLE WITH A WOMAN ON ANY LEVEL WHATSOEVER, AS LONG AS SHE IS "HOT". HE DISLIKES SPENDING TIME DOING ANY ACTIVITY WITH WOMEN (BESIDES SEX, EXCEPT THAT NEVER ACTUALLY HAPPENS). HE WANTS CASUAL SEX ONLY, BUT IS NOT OPEN TO REVEALING THIS. SO, HE IS PRETENDING TO BE INTERESTED IN A RELATIONSHIP IN THE HOPES OF "TRICKING" SOME EXTREME HOTTIES INTO ALLOWING HIM TO USE HER ORIFICES. I recommend tailoring your helpful posts so that they will be in line with his actual goals. ... well in that case... .. I don't think people should be *helped* into deceiving others for selfish gain. For shame!
Art_Critic Posted September 19, 2011 Posted September 19, 2011 Even if she's hot. U1987.. if it's been a while since you took the tests then why not delete them and redo them as people and their views change over time. I doubt just deleting them will give you more matches, it would most likely look to the other viewers that you were too lazy to finish filling out your profile and might count against you in the grand scheme of things.
Calutaxi484 Posted September 19, 2011 Posted September 19, 2011 To all the helpful people: THE OP IS NOT LOOKING FOR A RELATIONSHIP. HE DOES NOT CARE IF HE IS COMPATIBLE WITH A WOMAN ON ANY LEVEL WHATSOEVER, AS LONG AS SHE IS "HOT". HE DISLIKES SPENDING TIME DOING ANY ACTIVITY WITH WOMEN (BESIDES SEX, EXCEPT THAT NEVER ACTUALLY HAPPENS). HE WANTS CASUAL SEX ONLY, BUT IS NOT OPEN TO REVEALING THIS. SO, HE IS PRETENDING TO BE INTERESTED IN A RELATIONSHIP IN THE HOPES OF "TRICKING" SOME EXTREME HOTTIES INTO ALLOWING HIM TO USE HER ORIFICES. I recommend tailoring your helpful posts so that they will be in line with his actual goals. Ahh ok in that case... buy a whore cause your hookup is probably never going to happen. A "10" is going to have dudes falling all over her everywhere she goes. She goes to the gas station to buy a pack of gum, dudes there are hitting on her. While she's at work, dudes are hitting on her. While she walks her dog, dudes are hitting on here. In all likelyhood some of those dudes are going to be good looking and have some money. That's what you're competing with.
Art_Critic Posted September 19, 2011 Posted September 19, 2011 To all the helpful people: THE OP IS NOT LOOKING FOR A RELATIONSHIP. HE DOES NOT CARE IF HE IS COMPATIBLE WITH A WOMAN ON ANY LEVEL WHATSOEVER, AS LONG AS SHE IS "HOT". HE DISLIKES SPENDING TIME DOING ANY ACTIVITY WITH WOMEN (BESIDES SEX, EXCEPT THAT NEVER ACTUALLY HAPPENS). HE WANTS CASUAL SEX ONLY, BUT IS NOT OPEN TO REVEALING THIS. SO, HE IS PRETENDING TO BE INTERESTED IN A RELATIONSHIP IN THE HOPES OF "TRICKING" SOME EXTREME HOTTIES INTO ALLOWING HIM TO USE HER ORIFICES. I recommend tailoring your helpful posts so that they will be in line with his actual goals. I'm trying to figure out where this came from ? The OP hasn't discussed anything on this thread relating to what you are speaking about. and by the way.. Posting in All Caps like that is considered shouting/yelling on a web forum.
OnyxSnowfall Posted September 19, 2011 Posted September 19, 2011 I'm trying to figure out where this came from ? The OP hasn't discussed anything on this thread relating to what you are speaking about. and by the way.. Posting in All Caps like that is considered shouting/yelling on a web forum. I think that's the point... s/he is yelling it out ... it's not truly yelling anyway and I at least don't find it offensive. Perhaps you should look into the slew of his posting history? I don't intend to, but his other recent post is similar and certainly insinuates that his primary concern is banging hotties
Art_Critic Posted September 19, 2011 Posted September 19, 2011 I think that's the point... s/he is yelling it out ... it's not truly yelling anyway and I at least don't find it offensive. Perhaps you should look into the slew of his posting history? I don't intend to, but his other recent post is similar and certainly insinuates that his primary concern is banging hotties Well.. if his other threads talk about that then that belongs on those threads... This thread wasn't about how to bang hotties...
Mme. Chaucer Posted September 19, 2011 Posted September 19, 2011 I'm trying to figure out where this came from ? The OP hasn't discussed anything on this thread relating to what you are speaking about. and by the way.. Posting in All Caps like that is considered shouting/yelling on a web forum. I know - sorry. I was yelling (on purpose) because the OP's MO angers me. I have participated in the OP's threads before and I am angry and offended that he feels perfectly justified in misrepresenting his intentions in order to "trick" women into having sex with him. For the record, I am perfectly fine with people having consensual casual sex together (where both parties are signing up for casual). Sexual morality is not my problem here. It's the idea that this guy "needs" to have sex with women who are very beautiful, is somehow "entitled" to that, and the only way he is going to achieve it is by misleading them, so it's perfectly okay. Also, for the record, I'm not remotely concerned about any women actually falling prey to his clumsy machinations, especially gorgeous ones (as they are likely to be pretty experienced with being pursued) because I am quite certain it will never, ever happen in this lifetime. It's probably a blessing that he spurns women who he considers below an "8," because plainer women might be more vulnerable to being purposefully mislead. The idea of a profoundly selfish end justifying ANY means always gets my hackles up. Especially when it entails people using other people (don't care about the genders). This time it resulted in me yelling about it. I'll use my inside voice for the rest of the day.
grkBoy Posted September 19, 2011 Posted September 19, 2011 I hear women look heavily into match % so you need to lie in your answers to make you seem a certain way. It's the only way to get your percentage up to where you'd match with most decent women. Just don't answer honestly, instead think of what affect the question will have on your "personality vs the average". I'm replying to this on the idea that I didn't know of U1987's true intentions. The problem with this logic is you end up failing then when you meet the girl. So let's say you're into staying home and watching TV, or sitting in bars and watching sports...while you tailor your questionnaire to attract the hot/outgoing girls. Now you're stuck with women who will bug you to take them out clubbing...when you might find those places repulsive. Unless you're trying to trick/con them into a date or two so you can try to lay them, there's no point in falsely representing yourself. You just end up with women who annoy you or reject you. To all the helpful people: THE OP IS NOT LOOKING FOR A RELATIONSHIP. HE DOES NOT CARE IF HE IS COMPATIBLE WITH A WOMAN ON ANY LEVEL WHATSOEVER, AS LONG AS SHE IS "HOT". HE DISLIKES SPENDING TIME DOING ANY ACTIVITY WITH WOMEN (BESIDES SEX, EXCEPT THAT NEVER ACTUALLY HAPPENS). HE WANTS CASUAL SEX ONLY, BUT IS NOT OPEN TO REVEALING THIS. SO, HE IS PRETENDING TO BE INTERESTED IN A RELATIONSHIP IN THE HOPES OF "TRICKING" SOME EXTREME HOTTIES INTO ALLOWING HIM TO USE HER ORIFICES. I recommend tailoring your helpful posts so that they will be in line with his actual goals. Didn't know. Frankly, if he can't seem to land the easy hookups in real life or on a dating site, then he needs to give up or drastically change. IMHO, you need the body, face, money, charm, and/or confidence to just land pretty women into bed easily. He can keep looking for some magic solution that will make average or ugly guys get laid easily...only possibility then are hookers.
oaks Posted September 19, 2011 Posted September 19, 2011 I'll use my inside voice for the rest of the day. No. Please yell all you like. I think it was justified this time.
Art_Critic Posted September 19, 2011 Posted September 19, 2011 I have participated in the OP's threads before and I am angry and offended that he feels perfectly justified in misrepresenting his intentions in order to "trick" women into having sex with him. Got it... I seriously doubt that he is trying to do harm to women.. He is just trying to figure out how to find a girl that he thinks is hot go out with him.. that isn't rocket science to believe that.. that kinda is what many people do i dating.. right ? Isn't the attraction of looks the first thing that pulls people together ? I'll use my inside voice for the rest of the day. See.. that is sooo much better
OnyxSnowfall Posted September 19, 2011 Posted September 19, 2011 Isn't the attraction of looks the first thing that pulls people together ? Many people... looks can be highly deceiving online / in screens though... (someone either seems more physically attractive than they are [have edited their photos etc etc etc] or they could just not be photogenic but are lovely looking in person). I preferred online correspondence because it allowed for things to be better conveyed without the cloud/haze of physical chemistry skewing things ... if you're just after the physical chemistry, I don't know if online is the most ideal medium...
Red Arremer Posted September 19, 2011 Posted September 19, 2011 So if you're not after a relationship but you don't want to deceive anyone either, what are your options? Here's how it looks to me, on the outside looking in: 1) Spend a lot of time at clubs, where you are being bombarded by awful music and competing with the experienced players. 2) Join a normal dating site, check the "casual sex" box. Be instantly blocked forever by 99% of the women on the site, essentially destroying any chance of ever eventually finding a relationship there. 3) Join an adult dating site, and spend $30 a month to be advertised to by spambots and escorts. I'm sort of at a loss here.
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