Lilmisus Posted September 18, 2011 Posted September 18, 2011 I really think I found "the one" with my boyfriend. Like him and I have said...we're just amazing together, and everyone (family, friends, coworkers) loves seeing us together since we're just the "cutest couple." Last night, we went out with some of his best friends and some of my best friends, and spent the night at their hotel after partying, and all of them have said multiple times how happy I make him and how he's upgraded from his ex. Even his mom, who apparently hasn't liked any but one of his exes - loves me, and loves us together. When I got into my accident earlier this week, she was freaking out more than anyone and tried to help take care of me That's just the problem though: his ex. More specifically, the fact that they have a son together and she doesn't want him to see or talk to him anymore, and I think it's because we're dating. Some back story on his ex: They met over two years ago when he was stationed in Texas (he's in the Marines). They spent a weekend together, and then the next weekend she came back out to see him again, and they spent another weekend together. He didn't hear from her for a couple months, when she told him that she was pregnant (at this point, he realized she was a complete b*tch), and he didn't hear from her again till a few months after that. All this time, he was apparently "the other guy" which he didn't realize until afterward, and she told her boyfriend that HE was the father, and didn't mention my boyfriend at all, until a few months after he was born. My boyfriend came back on leave, saw his son for the first time at 8 months old, did a paternity test, and even though she had a boyfriend and he was the other guy, he wanted to try to become a family with him so he didn't have just a "baby mama." They tried for the past couple years, but according to him (and everyone else) he just pretended to be happy for his son's sake, and she put him through hell with all the drama and expecting so much from him. All along, she was still on and off with her other boyfriend, and would talk to him behind my boyfriend's back, which was pretty easy to do, considering he didn't come back from overseas till March. Anyway. Long story short, he broke up officially with her in July after trying hard to work things out, and after finding out she was living with her boyfriend again (and lying about it of course..her boyfriend verified it), and like some of you know, we started dating at the end of August after being close friends. Apparently, she was keeping an eye on me before we started dating since I'd post things on his wall, comment on things and what not, but when she found out that we started dating, she flipped out. Since, she's blocked him and I, and has refused to let him talk to his son for the most part anymore, and my boyfriend is really torn up over it. He doesn't want to be with her of course, but he does want to see his son, and has threatened to try to get custody, and as of now is looking for a good lawyer. The reason? She thinks that he spends all his money on me and "amazing dates" since she saw a few statuses and comments on Facebook, and that he's making up excuses to not pay child support...which isn't the case at all. She's also torn up because she thinks he moved on so quickly after their break up even though he told her for months that it just took one more thing and they were through. Regardless, I feel like it's my fault that he can't see or talk to his son anymore and I hate it. His son is the most important person in his life, and I don't like seeing him so torn up over something that I feel I'm apart of. He says that's not the case at all, that he loves me, and that I'm the best thing that's happened to him recently, and is talking about our future together, but still though...how do you ignore that feeling that you're part of what's causing someone so much pain? But what do y'all think I should do, if anything? Just ride this along, and hope that she gets over her jealousy issues, or do something else? I have no clue what else I could do besides breaking up with him (not an option...unless it's that serious).
country_gurl Posted September 18, 2011 Posted September 18, 2011 She thinks that he spends all his money on me and "amazing dates" since she saw a few statuses and comments on Facebook, and that he's making up excuses to not pay child support. So does that mean he's NOT paying child support? If not, why the heck isn't he?
Imajerk17 Posted September 18, 2011 Posted September 18, 2011 (edited) I'll say this again, and I mean this in the most constructive way possible: You seem to really really love drama. It's not just your boyfriend, but your ex, and your best friend, so it's NOT a coincidence. The question *I* think you really need to be asking yourself: What attracts you to these people? Edited September 18, 2011 by Imajerk17
Author Lilmisus Posted September 18, 2011 Author Posted September 18, 2011 So does that mean he's NOT paying child support? If not, why the heck isn't he? According to him: He was for a long while there, and she said that she needed "so and so money" to pay for their son to get his circumcision surgery, but when he found out that none of the money was going to the hospital bills or to the surgery, he stopped giving it. That wasn't too long ago though that he stopped giving it, and when he visited him in July, he bought all the necessity items his son needed to help her out so he knew where the money was going. Since then, his money that he was expecting from the military has been delayed for one reason after another, and he told her that regardless, he'd send her money after working his shifts. Multiple times (I've seen the texts) she's said "no, I don't need your money, my boyfriend takes care of me" or "send it when you get your money" or "we're fine right now, send it when you can" but according to her, she's just saying this stuff just to see how he reacts and to see if he'll send it regardless. Just playing mind games really. But, he's told me that he's setting it up that a certain amount of money each month is deposited into an account for his son, money that he can get when he's older and going to college, that way, his ex doesn't spend it on unnecessary things again like he has proof of her doing multiple times now.
Author Lilmisus Posted September 18, 2011 Author Posted September 18, 2011 I'll say this again, and I mean this in the most constructive way possible: You seem to really really love drama. It's not just your boyfriend, but your ex, and your best friend, so it's NOT a coincidence. The question *I* think you really need to be asking yourself: What attracts you to these people? Though I agree that I've been in very dramatic issues in the past, and been around it a lot, I still don't agree that I'm attracted to those types of people.My boyfriend and I have a very drama free relationship, and it's filled with nothing but love, support, and happiness, and I couldn't be happier (is it cause we just started dating, I dunno). It feels so amazing to be in this healthy of a relationship I thought we would before we started dating (I was worried about his flirting, working with a coworker again, his drinking, etc) but none of those things have been issues. THIS is the only issue, which I'm thankful for that..but I hate it since he misses his son so much I've seen him shed a couple tears over it. I just wish I knew what to do to help, if anything, ya know?
country_gurl Posted September 18, 2011 Posted September 18, 2011 According to him: He was for a long while there, and she said that she needed "so and so money" to pay for their son to get his circumcision surgery, but when he found out that none of the money was going to the hospital bills or to the surgery, he stopped giving it. That wasn't too long ago though that he stopped giving it, and when he visited him in July, he bought all the necessity items his son needed to help her out so he knew where the money was going. Since then, his money that he was expecting from the military has been delayed for one reason after another, and he told her that regardless, he'd send her money after working his shifts. Multiple times (I've seen the texts) she's said "no, I don't need your money, my boyfriend takes care of me" or "send it when you get your money" or "we're fine right now, send it when you can" but according to her, she's just saying this stuff just to see how he reacts and to see if he'll send it regardless. Just playing mind games really. But, he's told me that he's setting it up that a certain amount of money each month is deposited into an account for his son, money that he can get when he's older and going to college, that way, his ex doesn't spend it on unnecessary things again like he has proof of her doing multiple times now. Sorry to say it but he IS obligated to pay child support and she has every single right to go to court (or whatever the legal process is) and have it documented by a judge that he has to pay HER (she's obviously the custodial parent) "X amount" of money each month for THEIR child. What she does with it, frankly, is none of his business. By law he's still required to pay it...........now, not have money aside for the child later. And if he's apparently waiting for money from the military, how does he have the money to take you out and spend weekends drinking and out at hotels with his friends? Money for his child should be his first priority, over his fun. He should not have been having unprotected sex with someone, obviously knowing the risk of pregnancy, if he is not now ready and able and willing to pay child support on a regular basis. It doesn't matter one iota that he buys things for the child directly. That's not some bonus, he should be doing that regardless because that's his flesh and blood and that poor baby didn't ask to come into the world by 2 young irresponsible parents who are no longer together. And none of you should be posting your mushy gushy crap on FB where you had to have KNOWN she was going to read it. Come on now. Judging from your past posts, you've only been with this guy for what, 3 weeks now?....and you're both so in love, you actually believe that everyone loves seeing you 2 together because you're such a cute couple? That's kind of arrogant, don't you think? It all sounds like a bunch of drama to me, on many levels. Hope to God that you're at least taking extra, extra precautions to ensure that you don't get knocked up.
Imajerk17 Posted September 18, 2011 Posted September 18, 2011 Though I agree that I've been in very dramatic issues in the past, and been around it a lot, I still don't agree that I'm attracted to those types of people.My boyfriend and I have a very drama free relationship, and it's filled with nothing but love, support, and happiness, and I couldn't be happier (is it cause we just started dating, I dunno). It feels so amazing to be in this healthy of a relationship I thought we would before we started dating (I was worried about his flirting, working with a coworker again, his drinking, etc) but none of those things have been issues. THIS is the only issue, which I'm thankful for that..but I hate it since he misses his son so much I've seen him shed a couple tears over it. I just wish I knew what to do to help, if anything, ya know? I feel your pain, but look at it this way: You knew about his issues with his son, and as far as the rest (drinking, flirting, and whatnot, it's still early days. But you still got involved anyway! Whether or not it is "his fault" for the issues regarding his son, if you get seriously involved with him, it will become your problem too. Just as you will end up getting tied in with your best friend's affair if you stick with her.
Calutaxi484 Posted September 18, 2011 Posted September 18, 2011 According to him: He was for a long while there, and she said that she needed "so and so money" to pay for their son to get his circumcision surgery, but when he found out that none of the money was going to the hospital bills or to the surgery, he stopped giving it. That wasn't too long ago though that he stopped giving it, and when he visited him in July, he bought all the necessity items his son needed to help her out so he knew where the money was going. Since then, his money that he was expecting from the military has been delayed for one reason after another, and he told her that regardless, he'd send her money after working his shifts. Multiple times (I've seen the texts) she's said "no, I don't need your money, my boyfriend takes care of me" or "send it when you get your money" or "we're fine right now, send it when you can" but according to her, she's just saying this stuff just to see how he reacts and to see if he'll send it regardless. Just playing mind games really. But, he's told me that he's setting it up that a certain amount of money each month is deposited into an account for his son, money that he can get when he's older and going to college, that way, his ex doesn't spend it on unnecessary things again like he has proof of her doing multiple times now. I'm not sure where you're at, but anything other then "official (that is state overseen) child support" is irrelevant. If he's just giving her money, he's just giving her money. That's not child support. A lot of people really have misconceptions about child support. Her using it for the house,food,bills, that's all part of providing a home for the child. Most places don't stipulate that X amount of money has to go to clothes,toys etc. Really the best, way to resolve this situation is to get into court ASAP. You don't even have to have a lawyer to go to court, you're allowed to represent yourself. If he gets court mandated visitation and she doesn't comply they she can be held liable for custodian interferance and/or contempt of court. Both things are a pretty big deal.
country_gurl Posted September 18, 2011 Posted September 18, 2011 Though I agree that I've been in very dramatic issues in the past, and been around it a lot, I still don't agree that I'm attracted to those types of people.My boyfriend and I have a very drama free relationship, and it's filled with nothing but love, support, and happiness, and I couldn't be happier (is it cause we just started dating, I dunno). It feels so amazing to be in this healthy of a relationship I thought we would before we started dating (I was worried about his flirting, working with a coworker again, his drinking, etc) but none of those things have been issues. THIS is the only issue, which I'm thankful for that..but I hate it since he misses his son so much I've seen him shed a couple tears over it. I just wish I knew what to do to help, if anything, ya know? According to your post on Sept 2 (link below), you became a 'couple' a mere 3 weeks ago, on Aug 29th.......yet you gush like you've been in this serious relationship for a long period of time. I would only HOPE that after a piddly 3 weeks together that there would be no drama?! And I would sure as hell HOPE he'd shed some tears over missing his son, you make it sound like he's some great saint for doing that. He SHOULD be sad about it all, he helped to create that poor little boy now didn't he? Seems to me that you're both (or at least you because we don't know his side of things) moving way too fast here. 3 weeks together is barely a relationship. Your overly-enthusiastic descriptions of things after such a very short period of time come across as someone who is way too gung-ho, IMO. http://www.loveshack.org/forums/t295465/ You were worried about him flirting, working with a coworker again and his drinking but now you claim those haven't been issues.............LOL......well geezus, it's only been 3 weeks, not 3 years.
Author Lilmisus Posted September 18, 2011 Author Posted September 18, 2011 Sorry to say it but he IS obligated to pay child support and she has every single right to go to court (or whatever the legal process is) and have it documented by a judge that he has to pay HER (she's obviously the custodial parent) "X amount" of money each month for THEIR child. What she does with it, frankly, is none of his business. By law he's still required to pay it...........now, not have money aside for the child later. And if he's apparently waiting for money from the military, how does he have the money to take you out and spend weekends drinking and out at hotels with his friends? Money for his child should be his first priority, over his fun. He should not have been having unprotected sex with someone, obviously knowing the risk of pregnancy, if he is not now ready and able and willing to pay child support on a regular basis. It doesn't matter one iota that he buys things for the child directly. That's not some bonus, he should be doing that regardless because that's his flesh and blood and that poor baby didn't ask to come into the world by 2 young irresponsible parents who are no longer together. And none of you should be posting your mushy gushy crap on FB where you had to have KNOWN she was going to read it. Come on now. Judging from your past posts, you've only been with this guy for what, 3 weeks now?....and you're both so in love, you actually believe that everyone loves seeing you 2 together because you're such a cute couple? That's kind of arrogant, don't you think? It all sounds like a bunch of drama to me, on many levels. Hope to God that you're at least taking extra, extra precautions to ensure that you don't get knocked up. - Like someone said down there, it's actually not child support, he calls it child support but she has yet to got to court for it. They have both threatened to go to court multiple times, but he is yet to be obligated by LAW to pay it right now. The reason she hasn't, is he has so much proof that she doesn't use the money where it's supposed to go, and he has proof of her drinking and fighting around their son, to which point he'll get the custody that he wants and is fighting for. - We actually didn't pay for this weekend, his friends did. I pay for half of the dates, but most of them are VERY low key. Last night was free pour night, ten dollars for me to get drunk with my friends while he was at work, then we went to the hotel where they already had the drinks. Most of the time I go to his house, he cooks for me, or we chill at my house like we're going to do in a little bit since he's on his way now. - People keep telling us they love seeing us together. All the time, to which point it's actually has gotten pretty annoying hearing "awww, y'all are so cute/perfect together." Both of us get it at least once a day, so no, I'm not being arrogant. - No he shouldn't have had unprotected sex. Obviously. - I posted it on my wall, and I thought I had it set to private, apparently it was set to where my friends of friends could see it. What I'd post was "Amazing date with the boyfriend" (free movie in the park), or "out to eat with the boyfriend" Or just that I was plain happy. I didn't even ask him to change his relationship status cause I didn't want her to see anything on his wall, but he did it after she blocked both of us.
country_gurl Posted September 18, 2011 Posted September 18, 2011 - Like someone said down there, it's actually not child support, he calls it child support but she has yet to got to court for it. They have both threatened to go to court multiple times, but he is yet to be obligated by LAW to pay it right now. The reason she hasn't, is he has so much proof that she doesn't use the money where it's supposed to go, and he has proof of her drinking and fighting around their son, to which point he'll get the custody that he wants and is fighting for. - We actually didn't pay for this weekend, his friends did. I pay for half of the dates, but most of them are VERY low key. Last night was free pour night, ten dollars for me to get drunk with my friends while he was at work, then we went to the hotel where they already had the drinks. Most of the time I go to his house, he cooks for me, or we chill at my house like we're going to do in a little bit since he's on his way now. - People keep telling us they love seeing us together. All the time, to which point it's actually has gotten pretty annoying hearing "awww, y'all are so cute/perfect together." Both of us get it at least once a day, so no, I'm not being arrogant. - No he shouldn't have had unprotected sex. Obviously. - I posted it on my wall, and I thought I had it set to private, apparently it was set to where my friends of friends could see it. What I'd post was "Amazing date with the boyfriend" (free movie in the park), or "out to eat with the boyfriend" Or just that I was plain happy. I didn't even ask him to change his relationship status cause I didn't want her to see anything on his wall, but he did it after she blocked both of us. I'm assuming you're both young and very naive. First off, she can spend money on anything she wants, even if it was court ordered child support payments that she was spending on herself, that's truly none of his business or concern. Seems bizarre to me that you claim he's 'fighting for custody' of his son but he doesn't even have a basic agreement in place with respect to custody/visitation/child support? I call BS somewhere here. It's juvenile, to me, that you would be posting silly status updates like "amazing date with my boyfriend" or other such nonsense. Why do people have to seriously post every single tidbit of their personal lives for public consumption? Is it to brag? Is it because they really think that all of their friends really and truly care and are waiting with baited breath to read the next installment? is it to feel important? And I'm sorry but I do not believe for one single second that your status updates were truly innocent and that you didn't know his child's baby-mama wouldn't be reading them. I feel very sorry for this poor little boy, to be mixed up in all of this drama and dysfunction and BS.
Calutaxi484 Posted September 18, 2011 Posted September 18, 2011 - Like someone said down there, it's actually not child support, he calls it child support but she has yet to got to court for it. They have both threatened to go to court multiple times, but he is yet to be obligated by LAW to pay it right now. The reason she hasn't, is he has so much proof that she doesn't use the money where it's supposed to go, and he has proof of her drinking and fighting around their son, to which point he'll get the custody that he wants and is fighting for. Chances are the "proof" they both think they have isn't real proof. While family court is usually a bit more laxed then criminal or civil court, it's not Judge Judy. Real proof would be somewhere along the extremely difficult to almost impossible realm for the situation you're describing. Courts used to use the "tender years doctrine" to determine custody. Some jurisdictions may still use it. Basically there the courts believe that the child is better off with their mother during the tender years. Most courts today use the best interest of the child as the standard. "My friend told me" is called hearsay, it's it's not admissible in court (in most situations).
country_gurl Posted September 18, 2011 Posted September 18, 2011 Back the bus up here. Somehow I thought your BF's son was just a baby and maybe he was just a little 'slow' in getting the child support thing sorted out but it appears from reading your original post again that his son is at least 2 years old: They met over two years ago when he was stationed in Texas (he's in the Marines). They spent a weekend together, and then the next weekend she came back out to see him again, and they spent another weekend together. He didn't hear from her for a couple months, when she told him that she was pregnant.... So for 2 whole years he's not been paying proper child support? That's some kind of responsible Dad. Not.
country_gurl Posted September 18, 2011 Posted September 18, 2011 To add to the above (as I can't edit that post): Why hasn't he manned-up for the sake of his child and taken the necessary steps to have custody/visitation and child support issues sorted out properly? If he was so upset about not being able to see his son, he would be doing this not just "talking about getting a lawyer." And you claim that he broke up with her in July and you started going out with him the end of August. He went straight from her to you with no time in between, and after a mere 3 weeks of dating you're both so "in love" and he's got all of this drama and baggage and he's not acting in the best interest of his ?2 yr old child? (or how old?). And given the fact that he broke up with the mother of his child in July, it was very foolish and immature of you to be posting your mushy gushy status updates on FB, knowing full well that she would be very upset. While his mother apparently thinks you're the best thing since sliced bread, why is she not sitting her son down and (or why hasn't she done it sooner) and telling him to get things in order for his son? He should be more concerned about that than jumping into another relationship. And keep in mind, you only know HIS side of the story with respect to her and his relationship with her....................if you don't know her side of it first-hand from HER, then you don't know much. I'd be curious to know if he was 'getting to know you' prior to him having ended things with her.................because you do mention that you were "close friends" prior to starting a relationship on Aug 29.
Lucky_One Posted September 18, 2011 Posted September 18, 2011 So, they met over 2 years ago. So let's say...27 months ago. 27 - 9 months of pregnancy = 18 months old (baby's current age) 18 - 8 months (age when he first saw baby) = 10 months that he has known baby 10 - 2 months (July to present) = 8 months that he has had real relationship with baby "he wanted to try to become a family with him so he didn't have just a "baby mama." They tried for the past couple years..." He has tried to be a family for the past few years? The child hasn't even been around for a couple of years. "He was [paying child support] for a long while there..." Exactly what do you consider a long while? 8 months? Do you REALLY believe that a maximum of 8 months is adequate to provide some diapers and baby food and clothes for a 18 month old?
country_gurl Posted September 18, 2011 Posted September 18, 2011 So, they met over 2 years ago. So let's say...27 months ago. 27 - 9 months of pregnancy = 18 months old (baby's current age) 18 - 8 months (age when he first saw baby) = 10 months that he has known baby 10 - 2 months (July to present) = 8 months that he has had real relationship with baby "he wanted to try to become a family with him so he didn't have just a "baby mama." They tried for the past couple years..." He has tried to be a family for the past few years? The child hasn't even been around for a couple of years. "He was [paying child support] for a long while there..." Exactly what do you consider a long while? 8 months? Do you REALLY believe that a maximum of 8 months is adequate to provide some diapers and baby food and clothes for a 18 month old? ^^^ Good catch. So if they'd allegedly been trying "for the past couple of years", that would indicate the child is at LEAST 2 years old......err, I dunno, a lot of the details aren't jiving here.
Author Lilmisus Posted September 19, 2011 Author Posted September 19, 2011 Chances are the "proof" they both think they have isn't real proof. While family court is usually a bit more laxed then criminal or civil court, it's not Judge Judy. Real proof would be somewhere along the extremely difficult to almost impossible realm for the situation you're describing. Courts used to use the "tender years doctrine" to determine custody. Some jurisdictions may still use it. Basically there the courts believe that the child is better off with their mother during the tender years. Most courts today use the best interest of the child as the standard. "My friend told me" is called hearsay, it's it's not admissible in court (in most situations). The proof is pictures, texts, voice mail, etc.
Author Lilmisus Posted September 19, 2011 Author Posted September 19, 2011 So, they met over 2 years ago. So let's say...27 months ago. 27 - 9 months of pregnancy = 18 months old (baby's current age) 18 - 8 months (age when he first saw baby) = 10 months that he has known baby 10 - 2 months (July to present) = 8 months that he has had real relationship with baby "he wanted to try to become a family with him so he didn't have just a "baby mama." They tried for the past couple years..." He has tried to be a family for the past few years? The child hasn't even been around for a couple of years. "He was [paying child support] for a long while there..." Exactly what do you consider a long while? 8 months? Do you REALLY believe that a maximum of 8 months is adequate to provide some diapers and baby food and clothes for a 18 month old? His son is 18 months old. As soon as he found out and they started consistent contact, that's when he first started trying to have a relationship with her. Even before he was born. Once their son was born - from what I gather - he started paying child support, not just when he first saw him and got the paternity test done. So, for most of his life up until recently. So y'all know, he was pissed off because the next day after getting the money from him (multiple times), she'd post on Facebook about going shopping FOR HER, getting her nails and hair done, and just proving that she wasn't spending his money on their son. She'd still complain about not having enough for diapers (even after getting the money she asked for), or for his doctor bills, food, etc. He just had zero proof that his money for his child was actually being used on his child. That's when he told her he was done giving her money if she wasn't going to use it where she said she was going to spend it. That's when he decided to save up money for his son later on. And rest assured. He agreed to send her x amount of money tomorrow morning before going to class so that she'll allow him to talk to their son some more and to stop the arguing.
Author Lilmisus Posted September 19, 2011 Author Posted September 19, 2011 To add to the above (as I can't edit that post): Why hasn't he manned-up for the sake of his child and taken the necessary steps to have custody/visitation and child support issues sorted out properly? If he was so upset about not being able to see his son, he would be doing this not just "talking about getting a lawyer." And you claim that he broke up with her in July and you started going out with him the end of August. He went straight from her to you with no time in between, and after a mere 3 weeks of dating you're both so "in love" and he's got all of this drama and baggage and he's not acting in the best interest of his ?2 yr old child? (or how old?). And given the fact that he broke up with the mother of his child in July, it was very foolish and immature of you to be posting your mushy gushy status updates on FB, knowing full well that she would be very upset. While his mother apparently thinks you're the best thing since sliced bread, why is she not sitting her son down and (or why hasn't she done it sooner) and telling him to get things in order for his son? He should be more concerned about that than jumping into another relationship. And keep in mind, you only know HIS side of the story with respect to her and his relationship with her....................if you don't know her side of it first-hand from HER, then you don't know much. I'd be curious to know if he was 'getting to know you' prior to him having ended things with her.................because you do mention that you were "close friends" prior to starting a relationship on Aug 29. Yeah he was "getting to know me" before breaking things off with her..but as friends. He asked me out many times after breaking up with her and we talked for a little while there. His a flirt and has a LOT of girl friends, but is also very open about talking to all of them, and like I told him, as long as he's honest to me about them all, I don't care. And I know that what he's telling me is true because I've heard a LOT from just about everyone that's talked to me about him and her, and that's even without the evidence that he still keeps (Facebook, messages, texts, pictures, the obvious cheating). Why do I need to talk to her about things to know what's gone down between them? He's given me zero reason to doubt what he's told me is truth, especially with texts she still sends him and what not. Once he does give me even the slightest of reasons to doubt him, I will. Till then... But seriously, my posting this thread wasn't to have you jump down my throat about how my boyfriend parents his child (which btw, lives in Texas, and we live on the east coast), it was to get ideas on how to go about this relationship when there's obviously always going to be baby mama drama, since apparently (more evidence has proved this), she loves to fight and cause drama, even unnecessarily. I don't have any control on how he goes about being a father, but I do have control on how to go about this relationship with her and him always in the picture. Yeah, he probably should have waited, but according to him he was through with the relationship for months before breaking up, her going back to her boyfriend was the final straw to make him end things.
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