GorillaTheater Posted September 15, 2011 Posted September 15, 2011 I think Elysian is right, if you just want to get laid. Since I want a relationship too (seeing as how I've been married since the first Reagan administration), I have to mix in some beta. I want my wife to feel secure, but keep the alpha because I don't want her to feel TOO secure. Funny thing, this attraction business. But ignore it at your own peril.
GorillaTheater Posted September 15, 2011 Posted September 15, 2011 hes right about the relationshp too. its the same. I disagree. Women want the unpredictable wild man who will bang them like a screedoor in a hurricane, but they also want the guy who'll be a good dad and provider. The trick is being both. A fine line at times, to be sure.
cerridwen Posted September 15, 2011 Posted September 15, 2011 I disagree. Women want the unpredictable wild man who will bang them like a screedoor in a hurricane, but they also want the guy who'll be a good dad and provider. The trick is being both. A fine line at times, to be sure. You hit the nail on the head.
AHardDaysNight Posted September 15, 2011 Posted September 15, 2011 lenny is right. Although it is possible to be both. However, not every woman requires it.
OnyxSnowfall Posted September 16, 2011 Posted September 16, 2011 True, I ''can't'' connect to women or form a ''real'' relationship, but what's the point of that when can have all of the sex that I want, and I won't have to pay the price that comes from having a relationship/beta male traits. By breaking free frrom that beta crap, I've become invulnerable, truly independent, and my sexual power has taken a new turn, growing to be a well-tuned, pussy whisperer. And guys, you lot by possessing beta male qualities, and putting all of you in a relationship with women(or by being their friends) are giving me the free pass to go to the woman's house, fck her, and never see her again, because you lot are fulfilling her emotional needs. the key to success with what KIND of women? Do you equate a woman's worth based solely on her "attractiveness"? And for that matter, a man's worth based solely on how appealing he is to these attractive women? also, do "real men" run from challenges / hardship? Sounds like you've taken the easy way out by disconnecting from your "emotional" side and detaching from very raw and very human traits... while that may impress those who are weary with pain, it's ultimately cowardly. You stifle your own innate capacity for actual passion/power by cowering from its counterparts. And while you may appear "manly", it is probably mostly to those who are simply naive / inexperienced / can't see the truth / have become temporarily insane / are extremely needy and or vulnerable and or feeble... just going to state that is not much of an accomplishment =/... but yes, if sex with good looking people is your *primary* agenda... I suppose, though it is not a very grand nor uncommon accomplishment, it is still technically one... but it's a bit perplexing... assuming what you write is true. You come off as someone who needs to feel advanced/achieve, but are then simply misguided... being "invulnerable" is not a strength... and the height of living is not found in one corner of the entire spectrum of being... emptiness lies at the end of purely carnal pleasures... humans are not designed to indulge/gain without a price / balance being sought... you may elude the "crap" for now, but you also elude chances at "satisfaction" that lie in or with it... and that goes far beyond human relationships...
Woggle Posted September 16, 2011 Posted September 16, 2011 He sounds like somebody who has seriously been hurt. Men are encouraged to not show our emotional side so when we finally get the guts to do so and a woman chews it up and spits it out we are terrified of showing it again.
AHardDaysNight Posted September 16, 2011 Posted September 16, 2011 He sounds like somebody who has seriously been hurt. Men are encouraged to not show our emotional side so when we finally get the guts to do so and a woman chews it up and spits it out we are terrified of showing it again. This is a bunch of crap. Some women appreciate sensitive men.
carhill Posted September 16, 2011 Posted September 16, 2011 Wogs, I experimented with that recently and found that the capacity to be vulnerable still is extant and healthy. Perhaps that is due to a healthy childhood as well as MC during the difficult parts of our M. That said, while showing that vulnerability and caring, I'm far more selective of whom I invest it in now. Some see glimpses, only long enough for me to determine whether their emotional style is compatible or not. If not, end of show.
grkBoy Posted September 18, 2011 Posted September 18, 2011 I consider myself a GOOD MAN. I'm very much a nice guy and proud of it...but I don't fall into the "doormat" mode I used to get into. I'm happy I never had to "bad" myself up to meet Ms Right, and I was strong enough to grow old and die alone before I lower myself to get a girl. Don't ever "lower yourself" or "toss your integrity out the window" to get a girl...they're not worth it.
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