Addicted to brothels

[Elysian Powder]

I could also tell you that I spend a major part of my life hanging out with older men. Most of them confess to me that their marriage is awful. Many of those marriages are sexless. The woman doesn't find the guy attractive anymore, which is odd. The men still have all of their hair, their teeth are in good state, and they stay active.

 

Another percent of the unhappy men are nagged by their women/girlfriends all of the time. The rest are being cheated on, raising children whose father(s) belongs to some other guy but they can't do anything because their name is on the birth certificate, and the girlfriends and wives of the rest of the guys feel secure enough in their relationships to let themselves go. Quite amusing to see fit men with landwhales next to them. Man, I bet he has an headache every night!

 

If I was you, I wouldn't bother with what women are saying on this thread. They're making it their mission to make prostitution to be a daemon, and they'll insist that they are great nurturers and will do their uttermost to make you happy, but that's because they don't like the fact that the highly attractive woman(and if the woman is younger than them, even worse) is giving up the goods for such a low price, thereby making what they have to offer appear to be a much lesser appealing deal.

 

Why put up with them, their problems, their demands, and their cost when you can sleep with a very hot 22 year old woman?

 

Yeah, you're a pervert, afraid of real intimacy, or you can't get it up with a strong, independent woman. Pay no heed to them. They know that they can't compete with what a courtesan can provide, and so they want you to think it over, and give them a shot.

 

Instead of having high quality, no hassle, no problems sex.

Edited September 15, 2011 by Elysian Powder

[Elysian Powder]

Pretty Woman has a lot to answer for...

 

There maybe some normal young jocks who go to prostitutes. But think (I mean try to imagine) many of the clients who are very unnattractive both physically and in other ways who go to prostitutes. Wouldn't an emotionally normal woman cry and be totally distressed and bereft after such an encounter, let alone 100s of such encounters? So my suspicion is any woman who does this for a living either 100% turns her mind and emotions off (actually a very difficult thing to do, even for a man) or does something else (Kathy M might know more on this) to blot it out.

 

Tell me something. Do you go to construction forums and sympathize with the men who break their backs to create the cozy houses we inhabit? Do you victimize the men who have to work in the mines and in other hazardous and highly damaging jobs?

 

Or is construction and other menial jobs something that manly men do?

 

I guess that prostitution is an extremely feminine task, and as courtesans were loved and adored by the nobility and the kings of centuries past..

[OnyxSnowfall]

I could also tell you that I spend a major part of my life hanging out with older men. Most of them confess to me that their marriage is awful. Many of those marriages are sexless. The woman doesn't find the guy attractive anymore, which is odd. The men still have all of their hair, their teeth are in good state, and they stay active.

 

Another percent of the unhappy men are nagged by their women/girlfriends all of the time. The rest are being cheated on, raising children whose father(s) belongs to some other guy but they can't do anything because their name is on the birth certificate, and the girlfriends and wives of the rest of the guys feel secure enough in their relationships to let themselves go. Quite amusing to see fit men with landwhales next to them. Man, I bet he has an headache every night!

 

If I was you, I wouldn't bother with what women are saying on this thread. They're making it their mission to make prostitution to be a daemon, and they'll insist that they are great nurturers and will do their uttermost to make you happy, but that's because they don't like the fact that the highly attractive woman(and if the woman is younger than them, even worse) is giving up the goods for such a low price, thereby making what they have to offer appear to be a much lesser appealing deal.

 

Why put up with them, their problems, their demands, and their cost when you can sleep with a very hot 22 year old woman?

 

Yeah, you're a pervert, afraid of real intimacy, or you can't get it up with a strong, independent woman. Pay no heed to them. They know that they can't compete with what a courtesan can provide, and so they want you to think it over, and give them a shot.

 

Instead of having high quality, no hassle, no problems sex.

 

Sex is so much better when intense emotions/love is involved... when you know the body you're entwined with contains someone you care deeply for and who cares deeply for you... and you both want to bring one another genuine pleasure. Pleasure... as a gift...

 

Just saying... that's something worth more than money and beauty. Those things are not even remotely comparable. Banging a "hot" body and essentially using it as a toy can only "satisfy" so much and for so long... humans have yearnings deeper than just sex.

 

I'm going to concede that you bring up a lot of logical points... but, TRUE intimacy is worth risking things for.

 

Nevertheless, to each their own.

[Elysian Powder]

Sex is so much better when intense emotions/love is involved... when you know the body you're entwined with contains someone you care deeply for and who cares deeply for you... and you both want to bring one another genuine pleasure. Pleasure... as a gift...

 

Just saying... that's something worth more than money and beauty. Those things are not even remotely comparable. Banging a "hot" body and essentially using it as a toy can only "satisfy" so much and for so long... humans have yearnings deeper than just sex.

 

I'm going to concede that you bring up a lot of logical points... but, TRUE intimacy is worth risking things for.

 

Nevertheless, to each their own.

 

I've slept with women I shared emotions with, and I've had emotionless sex with random women.Both types of sexual encounters were just about the same in terms of pleasure and intimacy. I say intimacy because I shared with the random women something that women don't go around giving to every man. The gift of their body.

 

I undoubtedly prefer no- strings attached sex. Many, many young women are also discovering the pleasures and the benefits of this type off arrangement. Movies like ''no strings-attached,'' and, '' friends with benefits,'' are making a killing.

 

The freedom of doing as I please, going to where I please, and by not being attached in any way to anyone, I can live my life to the highest degree of happiness. If I couldn't attract random women to have sex with me, I would move to Holland or Germany and spend my days and my money making a beautiful woman(more like a host of them) and me, happy.

 

 

I'm going to concede that you bring up a lot of logical points... but, TRUE intimacy is worth risking things for.

 

You are right. The homeless guy I borrowed my couch to, after he was kicked out by his wife of 20 years, agrees with you. He's rather enjoying his empty pockets and his failing health - due to emotional reasons. Thanks for your insightful post, lady.

Edited September 15, 2011 by Elysian Powder

[Disenchantedly Yours]

Spitzer, none of us here really are qualfied to tell you if your an addict or not. People who are for prostitutes will rationalize you aren't..and people who are against it will rationalize that you are.

 

Either way, it does appear that you haven't pursued relating to women romantically outside of a paid situation. And I think you need a professional to get the the heart of the issue concerning how you see your relationships with women. Believe or not we are vastly interesting creatures that offer so much more then t&a.

[Feelsgoodman]

Lemme see. You, by using the services of a courtesan, do not incur in dating expenses(paying for those dates while there's the possibility of them going home to bang some other guy). You don't have to worry about pregnancies. You do not have the hammer of potential cheating, you are not manacled by your emotions i.e, you don't have to worry about the woman's changing feelings(and they will). You won't marry, which makes you a very smart man. Unless child-support for a kid you'll rarely see, and alimony for an ex-wife who will, most likely, immediately date some guy below you - if you are like one of the many, she has been cheating on you during years and years - and you won't have to live in a tiny room.

 

You're gonna trade financial and emotional security for an emotional connection that is highly overrated and and a major cause of emotional issues?

 

The women you sleep with through an honest transaction(prostitution) aren't little victims of men's desires. Not all of the men are short, bald, and fat. I've personally known men who are very good-looking or highly successful but instead of dating/marrying/ hooking-up; they pay in cash and in advance for the sex.

 

I've had women in my life, beautiful and with family in high places, but doing it for the cash and the fun and the glamor of having young, attractive men, putting their cash on the table for them.

 

Personify prostitution and impregnate it with a human persona. Prostitution is the most womanly profession sought after, by women and by men; the latter to bathe in the joys of a beautiful woman without paying for it.

 

And hey, when you see famous, very good-looking men, paying for sex instead of dating women who are as good-looking or lower on the looks apartment; you know that sex with a prostitute can be quite intimate and bountifulness.

 

Don't feel bad for doing and taking part in what most males, from the very first human male, have loved to do; sex with beautiful women.

This is pretty much bang on (no pun intended). If not for the increased risk of STDs and the general sleaziness of most brothels, I'd be using hookers too. Much more economical than having a girlfriend, and you don't have to deal with any B.S.

[Feelsgoodman]

Sex is so much better when intense emotions/love is involved...

Speaking as a guy...no it's not.

[OnyxSnowfall]

I say intimacy because I shared with the random women something that women don't go around giving to every man. The gift of their body.

 

Just several dozen men, right? ... also, the gift of the body is not the sole definition of intimacy... People gift their bodies to people who don't deserve it all the time... that is not intimacy... though giving one's body can certainly be an expression of it.

 

I undoubtedly prefer no- strings attached sex. Many, many young women are also discovering the pleasures and the benefits of this type off arrangement. Movies like ''no strings-attached,'' and, '' friends with benefits,'' are making a killing.

 

As I stated, to each their own. I just personally never found NSA nor even FWB to be worthwhile nor pleasurable...

 

The freedom of doing as I please, going to where I please, and by not being attached in any way to anyone, I can live my life to the highest degree of happiness. If I couldn't attract random women to have sex with me, I would move to Holland or Germany and spend my days and my money making a beautiful woman(more like a host of them) and me, happy.

 

Hm, yes, I liked that idea of "freedom" when I was a teenager myself. But I find having a responsibility to someone and a commitment with them far more rewarding... plus I like working tension out =B... developing a bond is so much more stimulating (for me). It's okay if you don't like the challenges etc.

 

Also, you don't seem very happy... perhaps you need to discover what can raise that bar up. You practically stalk LS and I can't count how many times you've blatantly attempted to incite people, and under so many different user names too... (and I confess, I find your posts to generally be a kick and quite entertaining).

 

You are right. The homeless guy I borrowed my couch to, after he was kicked out by his wife of 20 years, agrees with you. He's rather enjoying his empty pockets and his failing health - due to emotional reasons. Thanks for your insightful post, lady.

 

Salutations to him for risking it (if that's even what he was seeking... many "relationships" are, as you so eloquently pointed out, NOT about seeking intimacy but are about seeking to gain something worldly and are ultimately based in selfishness... what can "I" get, not what can "I" give... people compromise with an idea of "sharing", as long as they believe they are getting the bigger cut).

[OnyxSnowfall]

Speaking as a guy...no it's not.

 

really? it's not better when you feel in love? so what makes sex extremely gratifying for you? what was your best experience like? what reasons are attributed to it?

 

(also: intense emotions could be an infatuation. I separated it from love... to encompass a more powerful version of "lust").

Edited September 15, 2011 by OnyxSnowfall

[Red Arremer]

Speaking as a guy...no it's not.

Yeah, for the most part being in love with the person you're having sex with isn't nearly as important to a man as it is to a woman. I think it basically just comes down to the fact that men and women are wired differently, it seems like sex for men is mostly a physical thing while for women it's mostly an emotional thing. Granted, I am not nor have I ever been a woman, so I'm just speaking from observation here.

[Disenchantedly Yours]

Actually, sex is both emotional for men and women in the context of a relationship. Ask any married man that hasn't had sex in a while. While he clearly is feeling frustrated, he also feels disconnected from his wife. While men can more easily seperate sex, it dosen't mean they don't feel deep emotion within sex. And I've heard plenty of men also say sex is better within a relationship. It's actually one of the few and limiting ways society lets men express bone jarring (no pun intended), passionate emotion. And often men express their love for their partner through sex..and clearly steamy lust too.

[Spitzer]

I used to think along lines very similar to those of the guys who recently contributed to the topic. I was just so happy about my situation. I had banged a girl that most guys in my class seen in music videos only.

 

I know very well how much more convenient prostitution is compared to more conventional relationship. I however do feel a need to explore the other world to be able to make a decision on my own.

 

Once a friend of mine I have been to the brothel with confessed that he had spent around 10 000 euros there. He told me that everytime he thinks about the money wasted he wants to commit suicide. I just don't want to end up like him.

[Feelsgoodman]

I used to think along lines very similar to those of the guys who recently contributed to the topic. I was just so happy about my situation. I had banged a girl that most guys in my class seen in music videos only.

 

I know very well how much more convenient prostitution is compared to more conventional relationship. I however do feel a need to explore the other world to be able to make a decision on my own.

 

Once a friend of mine I have been to the brothel with confessed that he had spent around 10 000 euros there. He told me that everytime he thinks about the money wasted he wants to commit suicide. I just don't want to end up like him.

If he was unsuccessfully married and had to go through a divorce, it would've cost him a heck of a lot more than 10,000 euro.

[somedude81]

Dude what do you want from this thread?

 

You keep ignoring my questions about how many times you actually went. If you've only been there 5 times in two years, it's not an addiction. But if you've been there 20+ times you may have an issue.

 

So which is it? Why are you so worried?

[Spitzer]

I went 4 times in two years. I know it's nothing but I've been limiting myself because of financial issues. I've known nothing else outside of these 4 times and this is what I find worrying.

[somedude81]

I've been limiting myself because of financial issues

That's proof right there that you don't have an addiction. If you did, you would have been like your friend who went much more than you.

 

From what you've said, your worried because you have only had sex with hookers. That just means it's time to start going after real girls.

[oaks]

I too have lost my virginity at the age of 18 to a prostitute in a spanish brothel. Needless to say that she was the archetype of the eastern european blonde goddess. Two years, 3 prostitutes and 320 euros later I feel like I've been terribly wrong.

 

Well that's more sex for less money than lots of people who go on dates.

 

As other people have said, it doesn't sound like you've got an addiction. If your problem is that you haven't been in a relationship with a woman then what are you doing to try to meet single women?

[Disenchantedly Yours]

I used to think along lines very similar to those of the guys who recently contributed to the topic. I was just so happy about my situation. I had banged a girl that most guys in my class seen in music videos only.

 

I know very well how much more convenient prostitution is compared to more conventional relationship. I however do feel a need to explore the other world to be able to make a decision on my own.

 

Once a friend of mine I have been to the brothel with confessed that he had spent around 10 000 euros there. He told me that everytime he thinks about the money wasted he wants to commit suicide. I just don't want to end up like him.

 

For some strange reason you sound proud that you paid hot girls to sleep with you. It's so strange. But also strangely, you also don't want to end up like one of those guys that spends all his time and money paying for sex...I'm not sure what your looking for out of this thread. You seem more prone to "bragging" and articulating that you'r happy with the way your life is then not. Not too sure what else your looking for here.

[mtber75]

Your dealing with a moral issue? 3 prostitution in two years hardly constitute a addition...Seriously if your going to hookers every day and thinking about them every day than I consider you a addict!

 

I take it that your from an religious background? Catholic? I do suggest professional help like a therapist that specialize in addictive behaviors.

[Spitzer]

You got me wrong here. I clearly stated that I used to brag about my trips to the brothel but then gradually started to realize that it wasn't as cool as I had previously thought.

 

What have I done to meet real women ? I went to bars, parties, have been introduced to friends of friends... etc. At some point I even had a wingman who tried to initiate me to the Mystery Method and I've seen how well it worked for him. But I suck at seduction and never managed to go further than having a conversation with girls I knew were showing signs of interest for me.

 

What am I looking for in this thread ? I wrote it several times and I will repeat it once more : someone who discovered sex with prostitutes but still managed to do it the regular way afterwards.

 

Because anyone who has been to that kind of place knows how fast it can escalate to the point of addiction if you're not careful enough. Jynxx's input was very invaluable and I think he's the one who best understands the situation here :

Yet most of the time they get out of the club with an open mouth, not being able to process what happened. Especially on calm weekdays when there's about as many strippers as customers. A guy just whitnessed stunning halfnaked girls come to him, being really touchy, sitting on his lap without him having paid her anything (part of the hustle obvoiusly, they count on getting his money later when he pays for a lapdance), pretending to like him. He would just pick one, pay a bit for a lapdance and have a feeling that georgeous girl really liked him for him and would have fallen for him if they met some other place. It's so unbelievably powerfull. And the guys know she was just after their money, but at the same time they feel she was attracted to them (which is ofcourse what she tried to emulate).

 

My theory is that thinking and feeling are in different brainparts and are able to contradict each other, it's like falling in love with someone you know is no good for you. You can't control the feeling part by logic.

 

Now imagine someone not as mature, with a less stable surrounding and more insecurities, and a situation in which the girl goes way further than a lapdance. It would be the above mind**** many times over, and I can imagine op being really confused

.

 

That's right, it's a complete mind****.

[Disenchantedly Yours]

What am I looking for in this thread ? I wrote it several times and I will repeat it once more : someone who discovered sex with prostitutes but still managed to do it the regular way afterwards.

 

So are you looking to no longer visit prostitutes then? Or are you looking to spend time with prostitutes inbetween dating?

 

You're never going to discover who women are if you keep yourself regulated to a male fantasy of what you want women to be and paying those women to perform in the manner you want. If you really desire a relationship with a real woman then you need to discontinue the trips to prostitutes. If you don't much care about this, then continue on your trips with prostitutes. But you can't have it both ways. Especially since most real women are leary of men that have a history with prostitutes. And naturally so. That isn't to say you're a shady guy. It's just that it's not really the type of thing that women feel is secure and healthy. You need to figure out what you want because I don't think it sounds like you really know. It sounds like you want it both ways, prostitutes and real women.

[somedude81]

Oh yeah Spitzer. Never tell a woman that you've been with a prostitute.

[Disenchantedly Yours]

That wasn't really what I was saying. I'm not a fan of lying to mates about where you've been and what habits you've been indulging in.

[Red Arremer]

How is not telling someone something lying?

[somedude81]

Exactly. And I can't imagine a woman asking, "Have you ever been with a prostitute?"

 

That's almost like me asking, "Have you ever got drunk and been gangbanged?"