GorillaTheater Posted September 14, 2011 Posted September 14, 2011 Damn, GoingNowhere reminds me of a poster I used to know on another board. Rogue, is that you? I mean, your flames aren't quite as good as hers, but an impressive effort nonetheless.
GivenUp0083 Posted September 14, 2011 Posted September 14, 2011 Ummmm, if she's on top of you with a knife and is stabbing you.....then yes, you may hit her.
Taramere Posted September 14, 2011 Posted September 14, 2011 These "is it okay to hit a woman if..." threads always conjure up, for me, a vision of some guy who's just itching to punch a woman if only somebody will give him permission - and a reason. The law of assault can't be that hard to understand. Using reasonable force to defend yourself in situations where you can't escape is permissible. Closing your fist and felling somebody like a tree because they gave you a little bitch slap on the cheek is highly unlikely to fall into that category. If you're a man and a woman hits you then you're perfectly within your rights to have her charged with assault. If you're not prepared to deal with it like that then so be it. If you prefer to deal with it by cracking her across the cheekbone so that she ends up with a black eye while you don't have the tinest of red marks, "she slapped me first officer" is unlikely to get you very far.
Feelin Frisky Posted September 14, 2011 Posted September 14, 2011 My policy is to end it if she gets me to that point where I'm left with nothing else. But unfortunately I had a serious relationship where she brought violence in and it hurt so much that I just belt her back. That wasn't the end as nothing on her part seemed to be learned and she seemed like this was part of her understanding of relationships. I hate being angry for any reason much less so furious I need to crack someone. That was curtains for the relationship and the only time it ever happened. I think anyone--even Jesus--would have returned fire under the circumstances when she socked me in the eye while I was laying down with my eyes closed.
Engadget Posted September 14, 2011 Posted September 14, 2011 My policy is to end it if she gets me to that point where I'm left with nothing else. But unfortunately I had a serious relationship where she brought violence in and it hurt so much that I just belt her back. That wasn't the end as nothing on her part seemed to be learned and she seemed like this was part of her understanding of relationships. I hate being angry for any reason much less so furious I need to crack someone. That was curtains for the relationship and the only time it ever happened. I think anyone--even Jesus--would have returned fire under the circumstances when she socked me in the eye while I was laying down with my eyes closed. Oh I hear you, I've been arrested once for domestic violence because I finally lost it when my ex abused me, stole, broke my stuff, and drank nonstop as an alcoholic and cheated on me. She hit me a bunch of times, but when I snapped the neighbors heard it and I got arrested. Wasn't right, but you can push people to that point. Hitting someone is never okay. Period. In self defense it is, and that's why black and white thinking just doesn't work.
Titania22 Posted September 14, 2011 Posted September 14, 2011 These "is it okay to hit a woman if..." threads always conjure up, for me, a vision of some guy who's just itching to punch a woman if only somebody will give him permission - and a reason. The law of assault can't be that hard to understand. Using reasonable force to defend yourself in situations where you can't escape is permissible. Closing your fist and felling somebody like a tree because they gave you a little bitch slap on the cheek is highly unlikely to fall into that category. If you're a man and a woman hits you then you're perfectly within your rights to have her charged with assault. If you're not prepared to deal with it like that then so be it. If you prefer to deal with it by cracking her across the cheekbone so that she ends up with a black eye while you don't have the tinest of red marks, "she slapped me first officer" is unlikely to get you very far. Well said! .
nofool4u Posted September 14, 2011 Posted September 14, 2011 In self defense it is, and that's why black and white thinking just doesn't work. I think they meant as the aggressor, not in self-defense. I don't think anyone in their right mind would think someone has to sit there and take being battered.
FrustratedStandards Posted September 14, 2011 Posted September 14, 2011 Funny, to what lengths people can go to defend their point, when proven wrong. If I stab somebody, and he dies from bleeding out, not from stab itself, me stabbing him magically doesn't count? Or, if I push somebody off the cliff, and he cracks his skull open on a rock, me pushing him off the cliff doesn't count either? No, because if you stab someone, the implication is that you will injure and harm them. Same with pushing off a cliff, the result is implied. A simple punch doesn't imply serious danger if it comes from a woman to a man (unless we're talking to a butch 7 foot talk body building woman). My point being, more harm comes from a male punch than a female punch. Not saying women should beat their men, but rather than then a man beats his woman.
rafallus Posted September 14, 2011 Posted September 14, 2011 My point being, more harm comes from a male punch than a female punch. Not saying women should beat their men, but rather than then a man beats his woman. And how about "it's better, if nobody beats anyone else, because they CAN kill or permanently injure each other?"
nofool4u Posted September 14, 2011 Posted September 14, 2011 And how about "it's better, if nobody beats anyone else, because they CAN kill or permanently injure each other?" exactly. The question wasn't "who hits harder?" the question was is it acceptable for a woman to hit a man. and the answer is NO (unless in self defense, not as the aggressor)
mn311601 Posted September 14, 2011 Posted September 14, 2011 What ever happened to equality? Women are so full of ****. I've never been in a physical alteration with anyone, but I would treat either sex the same. Self defense of myself or someone else, you better believe it. Just because you have a vagina and a pair of tits doesn't make you any better than a guy. Women who use their sex to this kind of advantage are sickening. The guys who white knight and let them get away with it are even worse.
samsungxoxo Posted September 15, 2011 Posted September 15, 2011 (edited) I get the feeling the OP isn't really referring to self-defense but his question seems to be more like a ''Is it ok to retaliate against a woman if hit first''? This meaning, woman hit (or twice) but stopped, didn't proceeded, it wasn't life-threatening and man responds by punching her as if she's a man. This is what the OP seems to be referring to and if that's the case, then it's an out-of-control individual that really needs to seek a counselor. Definitely not someone I would want to date if he told me that as a relationship was forming. That would be the last time he heard from me. The answer to that is obviously no. If the question was ''Can a man hit back a woman in self-defense (meaning he can't get away, nothing is working and the only way to stop her from seriously harming him is hit back) then yes that would be an exceptional case. It seems the OP is waiting for many aprovals from people sharing his point of view. Unfortunately, I know of no woman in my workplace or female friends that would be happy nor comfortable with a man that proves he can lose self-control. Ok... I'm outta here now.. gonna check other posts... Edited September 15, 2011 by samsungxoxo
Thornton Posted September 15, 2011 Posted September 15, 2011 Not unless in self defense, or in defense of someone else. I agree, but I think this should apply to all people, not just women. Nobody should hit anyone unless they're defending themselves or someone else - and even then, they should use the minimum amount of force required to neutralize the threat.
PratyekaYana Posted September 15, 2011 Posted September 15, 2011 I get the feeling the OP isn't really referring to self-defense but his question seems to be more like a ''Is it ok to retaliate against a woman if hit first''? This meaning, woman hit (or twice) but stopped, didn't proceeded, it wasn't life-threatening and man responds by punching her as if she's a man. This is what the OP seems to be referring to and if that's the case, then it's an out-of-control individual that really needs to seek a counselor. Definitely not someone I would want to date if he told me that as a relationship was forming. That would be the last time he heard from me. The same rationale applies to the woman who decided to voice her displeasure through physical violence. You can argue that she, too, is an out of control individual that really needs to seek a counselor can you not? Why would you be so terribly put off by a man who treated you equally? So long as you never raised a hand to him, he would never be prompted to reciprocate. Are you afraid that you can not promise that you wouldn't resort to physical violence at some point?
samsungxoxo Posted September 15, 2011 Posted September 15, 2011 (edited) Why would you be so terribly put off by a man who treated you equally? So long as you never raised a hand to him, he would never be prompted to reciprocate. Are you afraid that you can not promise that you wouldn't resort to physical violence at some point?Same as most men would be terribly put off by a woman that slept with 100 men in her past but it's different when a man does it (he's called a stud or some of his guy friends praise him). Thus why I call myself an anti-feminist. Edited September 15, 2011 by samsungxoxo
Woggle Posted September 15, 2011 Posted September 15, 2011 It's 2011. I have experienced several times in life women acting like shrieking terrors, going hog wild crazy, scaring people and ruining a good time for dozens of people with their antics because they think they are immune to accountability for actions that would get a guy's ass beaten. If a woman is behaving like an out of control man, I won't hesitate to treat her as one. This is just me being a good feminist and treating women equally LOL. I agree generally that violence is not the way to go, but it's ironic that wasn't the case 50 years ago, people often got physical with each other, and the funny thing is that since we have taken this "violence always bad" stance, homicides, brutal beatings, etc., have gone up up up. People who know that it's a real possibility they will have to defend themselves tend to learn to defend themselves better. People who blithely follow a "violence always bad" lifestyle tend to make easier victims for the people who wouldn't be posting to a thread like this, they simply do as they please right or wrong. Seriously, I don't think the world has much to fear from LS posters as far as violence goes. We tend to care too much. These violence is never the answer people have never had to live in an environment where they had to fight back or be eaten alive. I would never hit anybody unprovoked but I will defend myself against anybody male, female or whatever. I would never hit a woman unless she put me in danger but I have kicked a few out of my house for acting the way you described. You don't pull that crap on my property and that goes for men as well.
mrgoodcat Posted September 15, 2011 Posted September 15, 2011 YES, you can hit a woman if the situation meats the FOLLOWING CONDITIONS: 1. She is trying literally to kill you or someone else and that's about it. If he is "hysteric" and throwing tantrumg or trying to hit you and scratch you, then as a man you should be able to restrain her by hug-holding her. If she proceeds to scratch your face and mule kick you in the nuts, then apply rear naked choke for few seconds until you feel that she stops fighting back. As soon as she goes limp immediately let go and wake her up. Her hysteria should be gone as this restarts your brain much like turning off the power on PC. Trust me, I "do UFC", bro :D:D
sun_moon Posted September 15, 2011 Posted September 15, 2011 I have never had the urge to use violence or break things with a man, I don't understand it, and I'm glad I don't. That being said, if I so much as see his anger get out of control to the point where he is slamming things and his temper is flaring, I'm out of there.
HokeyReligions Posted September 15, 2011 Posted September 15, 2011 I admit, I did not read the entire thread. But my answer is No. Define "hit" I've been hit by several men. Hit by snowballs, water balloons, water guns, an egg once (cause I didn't catch it) and on two occasions I was shoved (out of the way of a speeding car) and had my hands slapped (away from a fire) I've had many 'love pats' from hubby - in our younger years we called them 'love slugs' but it was a mutual activity and we often came away with messed up hair and a bruises! (tickling can become an extreme sport!) I would never tolerate a hit, punch, slap, etc. done in anger or as an attempt to control me. I would never hit anyone, man or woman, in anger either - although I admit to thinking about it sometimes with certain people!
somedude81 Posted September 15, 2011 Posted September 15, 2011 To the people who say it's wrong for a man to hit a woman. What should a man do when a woman is hitting him and pushing him around? He's already told her to stop and that just made her angrier.
AHardDaysNight Posted September 15, 2011 Posted September 15, 2011 Let me change the question: - Is it ever okay for a man to hit a man, or a woman to hit a woman? And if so, why? If not, why not? This is a good question, because a lot of men treat women as unequal, when there are stronger men than other men, and stronger women than other women. When is it okay for anybody to hit anybody?
HokeyReligions Posted September 15, 2011 Posted September 15, 2011 To the people who say it's wrong for a man to hit a woman. What should a man do when a woman is hitting him and pushing him around? He's already told her to stop and that just made her angrier. Walk (or run) away. There is a lot more violent abuse against men than people realize because its not reported. I understand the man may be embarassed, but he needs to step-up and step-out of the relationship.
ChessPieceFace Posted September 15, 2011 Posted September 15, 2011 Is it ever acceptable ... no but here's why: Do they ever deserve it? YES. Should you, then, hit them? No. You should just end the relationship if you are with a woman that does whatever it is that made you so angry.
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