Author Shaun-Dro Posted September 12, 2011 Author Posted September 12, 2011 Are you Woggle's alter ego? I'm getting sick of these anti-female threads. You're looking for a good woman, yet you hate women. Most of the "good women" out there wouldn't give a mysogynist like you a chance.... They'd see right through you and your hatred. I would like you to point out where in any of my threads I said I hated the female population? If you can show me that instead of sprouting off stupid emotional tirades, while refusing to acknowledge the truth of what's going on with you women today, I'd be more than happy to resign on LS. [FONT=Times New Roman][sIZE=3] [/sIZE][/FONT]
SincereOnlineGuy Posted September 12, 2011 Posted September 12, 2011 . They also turn lesbian just to punish us; . Why don't you out-fox them and turn lesbian yourself??
MrsNoMo Posted September 12, 2011 Posted September 12, 2011 I always wanted to turn lesbian just to get some help with housework. For god's sake, SD, what is wrong with you? How are you suppose to attract "good women" when you think this way???? You say you are not trying to be negative.... Well, that's exactly what you are!
coolheadal Posted September 12, 2011 Posted September 12, 2011 There are good people, and there are less good people. There are people who are mature and know what they want, and there are people who are immature and have no clue. This is not restricted to a particular gender. It sounds like you've been burned. There are good women out there though (raised hand). But, you need to be the type of man that a good woman would want to be with (e.g., a guy that doesn't generalize and stereotype all women). Work out being mad at the specific women that have treated you like crap, and move on. I thought I had made the right choice in the one I had married but she resorts to emotional intimidation and stress to me. It's a shame her background is player and lousy pot head father and mother who's a drunk. Not what I say a perfect background to be a good wife and a further mother one day. So that's ended and I am better to be away from the nutty family and her. Now I met someone in retail store just by accident and she came across in need of my help. She did approach me first out the blue. Being the type of gentleman and friendly guy I did help her out of the jam she was in I did more than anyone would do. But in all I that thought everything was great she and I got along very well that day an ended with exchange of names and phone numbers. Now I learn she has some lies she hasn't come clean about and there are some stuff that's she's doing now that has really got me wondering. So I am staying cool about it and lets see how it plays out. So I always treat women with respect and might be the last hope for most as I do let women go first, open the door even let them enter the elevator and leave first, while most men push their way out first. I was raise to treat women with respect. I am not going to change no matter what.
Author Shaun-Dro Posted September 12, 2011 Author Posted September 12, 2011 I thought I had made the right choice in the one I had married but she resorts to emotional intimidation and stress to me. It's a shame her background is player and lousy pot head father and mother who's a drunk. Not what I say a perfect background to be a good wife and a further mother one day. So that's ended and I am better to be away from the nutty family and her. Now I met someone in retail store just by accident and she came across in need of my help. She did approach me first out the blue. Being the type of gentleman and friendly guy I did help her out of the jam she was in I did more than anyone would do. But in all I that thought everything was great she and I got along very well that day an ended with exchange of names and phone numbers. Now I learn she has some lies she hasn't come clean about and there are some stuff that's she's doing now that has really got me wondering. So I am staying cool about it and lets see how it plays out. So I always treat women with respect and might be the last hope for most as I do let women go first, open the door even let them enter the elevator and leave first, while most men push their way out first. I was raise to treat women with respect. I am not going to change no matter what. But even with that, the respect isn't returned. I rest my case! There!
coolheadal Posted September 12, 2011 Posted September 12, 2011 Lost of the respect for the husband from the wife can kill things off. Also those girls night out too which started all of this in the first place. Never let them go out on girls night out!
ScienceGal Posted September 12, 2011 Posted September 12, 2011 No but some women do feel that because men crave sex so much they don't have to put in much effort. That's why I hate to see men act like they can't live without sex I have never felt this way or purposely treated a man poorly. Total BS.
sally4sara Posted September 12, 2011 Posted September 12, 2011 Evolution influences every aspect of the form and behavior of organisms. Most prominent are the specific behavioral and physical adaptations that are the outcome of natural selection. These adaptations increase fitness by aiding activities such as finding food, avoiding predators or attracting mates. Organisms can also respond to selection by co-operating with each other, usually by aiding their relatives or engaging in mutually beneficial symbiosis. In the longer term, evolution produces new species through splitting ancestral populations of organisms into new groups that cannot or will not interbreed. Basically if you are always jockying for control over those you wish to mate with, you will not be met with acceptance. Humans wish to mate with humans; not someone who can't recognize another human due to gender difference. When you fail to see all genders as human YOU become the defect and get bred out. I see many males of the human race in this thread who are defective and deserve to be eliminated from the gene pool to ensure the more useful trait of cooperation continues to be part of our natural survival skills. Beyond that? Dear LS, I feel our relationship has run its course. For quite sometime now I've tried being tolerant of your association with the hatebreed and feel I've hit my limit. Its not me; its you and I don't see a future for us. It was nice for a while; nice enough that I overlooked your weaknesses. You need and willfully continue to need help and I like to feel as though I am helping. However many of your problems are fueled by stupidity. Stupid cannot be reached and will not be helped. Ciao, S4S
AHardDaysNight Posted September 12, 2011 Posted September 12, 2011 Lots of stereotypes here that are unnecessary. If every single woman responds the same way to you, OP, perhaps you are the problem?
Lisa_H Posted September 12, 2011 Posted September 12, 2011 I always wanted to turn lesbian just to get some help with housework. :) and help with the kids and grocery store and running errands and paying bills........... and keeping my husband happy after a busy day that starts at 5am and doesn't end until after 10pm!!!! Good women are still out there -- just as good men are!!! Become the best person you can be and you will not accept less then you deserve. When you attract the right woman....... Then...... both of you will work your butt off to keep your relationship alive and well. It is just life!! Enjoy it, have fun and make everyday worthwhile!
stillafool Posted September 12, 2011 Posted September 12, 2011 Evolution influences every aspect of the form and behavior of organisms. Most prominent are the specific behavioral and physical adaptations that are the outcome of natural selection. These adaptations increase fitness by aiding activities such as finding food, avoiding predators or attracting mates. Organisms can also respond to selection by co-operating with each other, usually by aiding their relatives or engaging in mutually beneficial symbiosis. In the longer term, evolution produces new species through splitting ancestral populations of organisms into new groups that cannot or will not interbreed. Basically if you are always jockying for control over those you wish to mate with, you will not be met with acceptance. Humans wish to mate with humans; not someone who can't recognize another human due to gender difference. When you fail to see all genders as human YOU become the defect and get bred out. I see many males of the human race in this thread who are defective and deserve to be eliminated from the gene pool to ensure the more useful trait of cooperation continues to be part of our natural survival skills. Beyond that? Dear LS, I feel our relationship has run its course. For quite sometime now I've tried being tolerant of your association with the hatebreed and feel I've hit my limit. Its not me; its you and I don't see a future for us. It was nice for a while; nice enough that I overlooked your weaknesses. You need and willfully continue to need help and I like to feel as though I am helping. However many of your problems are fueled by stupidity. Stupid cannot be reached and will not be helped. Ciao, S4S Oh Sally don't go! I know it is hard here and I myself have to take a break now and then as the gender hatred is just too much. I for one have always enjoyed your posts and hate to lose a smart member of LS.
dasein Posted September 12, 2011 Posted September 12, 2011 Oh Sally don't go! I know it is hard here and I myself have to take a break now and then as the gender hatred is just too much. I for one have always enjoyed your posts and hate to lose a smart member of LS. Only a tiny % (1-2%) of the threads here have any gender specific content at all. Know why it seems otherwise? Because whenever a man posts a thread like this, women come flocking in to "wave the placards" with lots of garbage posts. Ironically, it fluffs up the number of posts in threads like this, keeps them near the top, and draws undue attention. For contrast, check out the general level of civility in the "I am losing faith in men" thread. Shocking the difference in tenor of replies to that thread in comparison to this one. But keep on wearing that sackcloth.
Disenchantedly Yours Posted September 12, 2011 Posted September 12, 2011 dasein, there is a general level of civility in the "I am losing faith in men" thread because of the level of cilvility the OP used in her openning post. She said: I am not really looking to date. I just got out of a crappy situation with a guy for the last year and a half. I am open to the idea of eventually finding someone but I definitely don't want to look for them. Maybe when one finds me and he seems decent, I will give it a go. But here is the problem: 80% of the men who show interest in me end up wanting to sleep with me within a matter of hours. Or when I talk with them they make stupid comments about perverted stuff and act like they are kidding but I can sense the seriousness in the back of their minds and a slight glimpse in their eyes. Most men I come across wantto hook up with me. I hate it! What happened to getting to know a person first? Is life just all about sex now? I really hate it. Compared with: It's because they're not putting in the same effort that the men are trying to do. Not to mention, the roles being reversed has also hurt both parties, but women buy into the media pretense so relationships suffer, expecting men to be everything seen on television and in the movies, and when they realize the men don't live up to the fantasy, women bail! They go single, grow old and alone, and cry themselves to sleep at night. They also turn lesbian just to punish us; how pathetic . And then refuse to accept that men are visual creatures and will always be, so they act as if because a guy wants to get to know them, it's only to get what's inside their panties and nothing more. This disqualifies potential good mates. I see this situation time and again. And it's painful to watch and it's also depressing because I don't see things getting better for us. I even have my hands full with my ex accusing me today of just wanting to nail her, although I never gave her reason to believe that. This and other garbage are the excuses you ladies use to escape us! It's wicked, plain and simple. She hates that 80% of the men seem to only want her for sex. He perversly gets pleasure out of the idea of women growing old and alone and crying themselves to sleep at night. She is open to a relationship with a decent man. He thinks women become lesbians to spite men. She doesn't want to be treated like a piece of meat. He wants women to understand that men are "visual" and therefore get to indulge in lustful behavior involving other women and that we should still be waiting for him with smiles and bells on in the process.
Easyguy14 Posted September 12, 2011 Posted September 12, 2011 Most women couldn't care less if they became old and alone so it would be pretty silly to get pleasure from pretending women cry themselves to sleep over it. no one wants to grow old and alone so I have no idea where you came up with that ridiculous assumption. seeing that yes there is a shift in how the way women view men today and vice-versa has changed things for worse, not better. is the media responsible? they play a large part in it since we are conditioned to believe mostly everything pointed out to us through the powers that be, whether true or false. and yes things are more difficult in this system's setup than it was 40-50 years ago because we dont connect as we once did in the old days. my parents shake their heads at what's going on every day
Easyguy14 Posted September 12, 2011 Posted September 12, 2011 I don't think it's that women want to grow old and alone, they just wouldn't care that much if they did. Finding a husband and all that is really a pretty low priority for most women. They can be just as happy being single. Infact it's statistically proven that women are more happier single than married. you're referring to younger women not older because the older she gets, the more she wants to settle and find someone. after work me and some of my coworkers go to a few lounges in the city. plenty of women in there are looking for a man. when I speak to a few, they make it clear they're not just in it for one thing, but something longer-lasting.
AHardDaysNight Posted September 12, 2011 Posted September 12, 2011 Most women couldn't care less if they became old and alone so it would be pretty silly to get pleasure from pretending women cry themselves to sleep over it. I completely disagree with this. Women get lonely, too.
Disenchantedly Yours Posted September 12, 2011 Posted September 12, 2011 Most women couldn't care less if they became old and alone so it would be pretty silly to get pleasure from pretending women cry themselves to sleep over it. What is it with some of you guys on this site who apparently think women don't experience anything human? Right now I'm kind of lonely. Most of my friends are starting to get married and have babies and I don't even have a steady boyfriend right now. Infact, I have to go alone to a wedding in a couple weeks.I'm happy for my friends but I want someone special for myself. They are all starting to get wrapped up in more grown up lives. And I don't want to be Aunt DY with the 50 cats as their kids grown up. But I'm not any guys dream girl. I don't look like a Maxim model but I do the best with what God gave me. I've been rejected by short guys, bald guys, over weight ones...So it's not like I date only hot hot guys. And granted, I have also rejected short guys, bald guys, over weight ones and even tall athletic ones but my point is that average joes reject women too. And women, being human beings, just like you, experience a wide range of emotions that aren't just full of happiness over a new pair of shoes and free dates. And until you recongnize that women are people, that experience a wide range of life experience both negative and positive like yourself, you're never going to be connect to us.
Easyguy14 Posted September 12, 2011 Posted September 12, 2011 What is it with some of you guys on this site who apparently think women don't experience anything human? Right now I'm kind of lonely. Most of my friends are starting to get married and have babies and I don't even have a steady boyfriend right now. Infact, I have to go alone to a wedding in a couple weeks.I'm happy for my friends but I want someone special for myself. They are all starting to get wrapped up in more grown up lives. And I don't want to be Aunt DY with the 50 cats as their kids grown up. But I'm not any guys dream girl. I don't look like a Maxim model but I do the best with what God gave me. I've been rejected by short guys, bald guys, over weight ones...So it's not like I date only hot hot guys. And granted, I have also rejected short guys, bald guys, over weight ones and even tall athletic ones but my point is that average joes reject women too. And women, being human beings, just like you, experience a wide range of emotions that aren't just full of happiness over a new pair of shoes and free dates. And until you recongnize that women are people, that experience a wide range of life experience both negative and positive like yourself, you're never going to be connect to us. when you say men reject you, do you mean it in terms of them refusing to ask you out, or that you told them you wanted to get together and they turned you down? most women never tell a man they wanna get with him because she usually believes that's men's jobs, to save her from rejection, which causes damage to her emotionally since she isn't wired to deal with that sort of thing, something men been handling for centuries.
Disenchantedly Yours Posted September 12, 2011 Posted September 12, 2011 when you say men reject you, do you mean it in terms of them refusing to ask you out, or that you told them you wanted to get together and they turned you down? Both. There are men I've been interested in that have been interested in other women. There are men who I went out on dates with that didn't want to go out again that I liked. rejection is a two way street and I'm really confused why a chunk of men here think women don't experience the ups and downs of life like anyone does..as a HUMAN BEING. most women never tell a man they wanna get with him because she usually believes that's men's jobs, to save her from rejection, which causes damage to her emotionally since she isn't wired to deal with that sort of thing, something men been handling for centuries. Wrong, lots of women tell men they "wanna get with him" but it's not always in your face and obvious. Women give signals that are more subtle. Now guys can whine about how crappy these women are or they can understand that that's their style and choose to be with a more aggresive female. But i think most of the time, it isn't that these men that whine about how crappy these women are want an aggressive female. They want a nice, sweet one that doesn't make him do any work or effort to court her. And that's just not a realistic combination. I have no clue what you mean by this.
PJKino Posted September 12, 2011 Posted September 12, 2011 What is it with some of you guys on this site who apparently think women don't experience anything human? Right now I'm kind of lonely. Most of my friends are starting to get married and have babies and I don't even have a steady boyfriend right now. Infact, I have to go alone to a wedding in a couple weeks.I'm happy for my friends but I want someone special for myself. They are all starting to get wrapped up in more grown up lives. And I don't want to be Aunt DY with the 50 cats as their kids grown up. But I'm not any guys dream girl. I don't look like a Maxim model but I do the best with what God gave me. I've been rejected by short guys, bald guys, over weight ones...So it's not like I date only hot hot guys. And granted, I have also rejected short guys, bald guys, over weight ones and even tall athletic ones but my point is that average joes reject women too. And women, being human beings, just like you, experience a wide range of emotions that aren't just full of happiness over a new pair of shoes and free dates. And until you recongnize that women are people, that experience a wide range of life experience both negative and positive like yourself, you're never going to be connect to us. So short guys cant be hot and are automatically average joes?
Casablanca Posted September 12, 2011 Posted September 12, 2011 I'd say the OP is half right, yes women are the reason relationships fail about 50% of the time, but so are men the other half!
verhrzn Posted September 12, 2011 Posted September 12, 2011 In order to be rejected you actually have to take a chance and risk it, you have to put yourself out there at the risk of being openly rejected. That's how we men get rejected. We men put ourselves out there and risk it. You don't put in any effort. You don't do any work. You don't take any initiatives. You do not risk being openly rejected and embarrased. But a woman is in a double bind where if she "puts herself out there," she might actually be scaring away a guy who would have been potentially interested by being too aggressive/intimidating/masculine. I posted a thread a little while ago about whether I should approach guys, and most of the responses were along the lines of either a) if he was interested he would have approached you already or b) he'll be happy, but only if he already thought you were attractive. Guys (the non-clueless ones, anyway) ask out a girl when they've been given signals that the girl is interested. So guys know what to look for, and girls know how to give off these signs. (Which is how girls generally agree that Behavior A and B are flirty/interested and Behavior C is just friendly.) But guys have not been brought up to give out subtle hints that they're interested. So a woman who DOES take it upon herself to make the move goes in completely blind, which means there's a bigger risk for her than when a (non clueless) man asks out a woman. For example, a guy I've had an attraction for sent me a message last week inviting me along to a movie with him and his friends. After his friends left, we sat out in the parking lot and chatted for about an hour. If the genders were swapped (he was a girl and I was a guy) every single one of my female friends would say," Oh she's for sure interested!" But when he's a guy and acting this way?? I have no guidelines as to whether that kind of behavior is typical, friendly, or romantic, and none of the guy friends I asked can seem to agree. But frankly, all of this is beside the point, since Enchanted pointed out she's been clear about her interest and still been rejected. So what exactly is your point-just want to grind the axe that guys should get to sit back and not do any of the dating work? Cause really, in the scenario of a girl approaching a guy, what exactly IS he doing that constitutes effort? A girl displays effort by giving out those subtle hints (smiles, eye contact, laughing at his jokes, etc.).... what is the guy doing when the girl is doing all the work of approaching and initiating?
verhrzn Posted September 12, 2011 Posted September 12, 2011 I can see that it might not work as good for a woman to do the approaching. My problem is that women think they know what rejection is. You can't get rejected by giving out signals. Men in general get rejected alot more than women though. Men already ARE doing ALL of the dating work. How can you not get rejected just because you're using signals? If you end up talking to a girl at a bar, smiling and laughing at her jokes, playfully touching her arm, asking her questions about herself, and then you see her making out with some other guy, you're telling me most men would think to themselves," Oh she didn't reject me." Uh, no. Giving out signals and directly asking are two means to the same end, and both of them are legitimate ways to both succeed and fail. You have absolutely no proof that men get rejected more than women do. I could just as easily say that men SEEM to get rejected more than women do because their rejection is obvious. But for women, not getting hit on or approached is our most usual form of rejection, and it happens all the time. BS that men do all the work. Women twist themselves into personal knots over relationships... They buy expensive beauty products, they spend hours trying to look the right kind of attractive (make-up, clothing and hair styling on top of keeping physically fit), they take dating quizzes, they read relationship articles, they analyze every small monocle of a date over coffee with a female friend.... Women do TONS of work to make relationships move, the only difference is, if she's doing it well, you don't see any of it. Men are just more obvious about the work they put forth. As soon as guys have to spend as much time, money (single piece of sexy underwear... $10-15 at VS. A good bra is $45. Do men spend NEARLY that much on stuff that you can't even SEE most of the time??) and attention on their looks and their personality (be sure to be sexy, but not TOO sexy, and available but not TOO available, and sweet but not TOO sweet), THEN you'll hear me say that men and women are doing equal amounts of work and women should be approaching more.
Recommended Posts