Mangomonkey Posted September 9, 2011 Posted September 9, 2011 Seriously. Why? I was actually speaking about this with some people. One female perspective was that all males are whores so they don't really have a choice. I see it as an excuse to date players. Any thoughts??
Janesays Posted September 9, 2011 Posted September 9, 2011 Hmm, I don't know. Maybe they are tired of being left unsatisfied in the bedroom and are hoping that someone with a little bit more sexual experience can get them off, for a change?
somedude81 Posted September 9, 2011 Posted September 9, 2011 It's because only a small population of men are truly attractive to women. And every girl wants a part of them. Of course the men are happy to oblige to all the woman that want them. So then you might end up with four girls who are all being exclusive with one guy. They know he's sleeping around and don't care and they don't let anybody else touch them.
sm1tten Posted September 9, 2011 Posted September 9, 2011 Gross. I sometimes wonder if women will date a guy like that (or really any guy with a deal-breaking habit) because when it fails they don't need to take any responsibility as he is a "horrible" person. And there's probably also the pride thing too. But still. Gross.
AHardDaysNight Posted September 9, 2011 Posted September 9, 2011 This is the bad boys thread all over again. Seriously. No original ideas left in this semicircle.
samsungxoxo Posted September 9, 2011 Posted September 9, 2011 This is the bad boys thread all over again. Seriously. No original ideas left in this semicircle.Yup seems like it. I wonder how many threads of that same topic have been posted by now? Probably exceeding 50 I think.... only now it's written in another way but still the same idea. If a woman is sooo unstable that she settles for a man-whore, drug user or a total loser then why would a man hang around with someone like that? In this case, I guess he would be just as pathetic as her.
AHardDaysNight Posted September 9, 2011 Posted September 9, 2011 If a woman is sooo unstable that she settles for a man-whore, drug user or a total loser then why would a man hang around with someone like that? In this case, I guess he would be just as pathetic as her. Yeah, pretty much. Also, younger women tend to be less stable. They also tend to be more physically attractive, but at what cost?
aj22one Posted September 9, 2011 Posted September 9, 2011 Yup seems like it. I wonder how many threads of that same topic have been posted by now? Probably exceeding 50 I think.... only now it's written in another way but still the same idea. If a woman is sooo unstable that she settles for a man-whore, drug user or a total loser then why would a man hang around with someone like that? In this case, I guess he would be just as pathetic as her. I agree that there are women like this and that they should be avoided, but, there's more to it than that. Remember that thread from a few months ago where the girl was complaining that her boyfriend had been a virgin before dating her and waited six months to tell her? Well, it speaks to a fundamental truth about people assuming certain things about other people. People assume that most if not all men are man whores, or at least had their share of relationships and flings, especially in younger years. When you meet someone who doesn't fit that bill people tend to get uneasy about the uncertainty. Or, they get completely turned off sexually. Of course, this also depends on how we're defining "man whore".
Wolf18 Posted September 9, 2011 Posted September 9, 2011 I don't think most men are "whores". That's a myth for sure. I will bet anything that 90% of men in America in their 20's do not have sex more than once a month. I would even say that a large portion of those men do not have sex more than a couple of times a year. Men in their 20's are saints compared to women. I know for a fact that the average woman has been "around the block" way more than the average man by the time they hit 30's. It's by their late 20's or early 30's when the guys who aren't 6'3 athletes with chiseled good looks can find good paying jobs and suddenly finally become more attractive to women. I haven't had sex in 3 years and I'm 22. I'm a normal guy with alright looks and a good personality, girls have described me as fun to be around, masculine, and caring, but I just don't have anything that substantial to offer to women. There are millions of guys like me. I've got a low paying job (im finishing up my college studies by in this economy its going to be tough to get a decent job even then), I'm 5'7, I'm not particularly muscular, don't have a car (I live in New York City, don't need one), all I have to give is me and even the girls I've met that had everything in common with didn't want me. IF most men are whores, I can guarantee you that myself, my friends, and in fact most of the guys I know aren't in this man-whore club. If you're lining up to get inseminated at the Football player studfarm/frat house, that's you purposely picking out the man-whores, not that all men are promiscuous.
AHardDaysNight Posted September 9, 2011 Posted September 9, 2011 I don't think most men are "whores". That's a myth for sure. I will bet anything that 90% of men in America in their 20's do not have sex more than once a month. I would even say that a large portion of those men do not have sex more than a couple of times a year. Men in their 20's are saints compared to women. I know for a fact that the average woman has been "around the block" way more than the average man by the time they hit 30's. It's by their late 20's or early 30's when the guys who aren't 6'3 athletes with chiseled good looks can find good paying jobs and suddenly finally become more attractive to women. I haven't had sex in 3 years and I'm 22. I'm a normal guy with alright looks and a good personality, girls have described me as fun to be around, masculine, and caring, but I just don't have anything that substantial to offer to women. There are millions of guys like me. I've got a low paying job (im finishing up my college studies by in this economy its going to be tough to get a decent job even then), I'm 5'7, I'm not particularly muscular, don't have a car (I live in New York City, don't need one), all I have to give is me and even the girls I've met that had everything in common with didn't want me. IF most men are whores, I can guarantee you that myself, my friends, and in fact most of the guys I know aren't in this man-whore club. If you're lining up to get inseminated at the Football player studfarm/frat house, that's you purposely picking out the man-whores, not that all men are promiscuous. Very good point. Women forget about guys that are left behind, not the star players.
irc333 Posted September 9, 2011 Posted September 9, 2011 I know a woman, late 40's who dated such a man for 5 years, she'd even flirt with other women right in front of her, they never lived together, because he preferred to have his own bachelor pad that he could bring women back to. He must've cheated multiple times on her, each time begging her forgiveness, and she'd take him back. One day she finally didn't take him back, but he's always texting her behind his current "girlfriend's" back. He wanted his cake and eat it too, with women. Gross. I sometimes wonder if women will date a guy like that (or really any guy with a deal-breaking habit) because when it fails they don't need to take any responsibility as he is a "horrible" person. And there's probably also the pride thing too. But still. Gross.
Wolf18 Posted September 10, 2011 Posted September 10, 2011 Very good point. Women forget about guys that are left behind, not the star players. That's not due to ignorance, but rather moral convenience. All Women, yes, ALL, know atleast 1 guy who is single, has many mutual interests, is lovable and all in all a solid fellow, and they romantically ignore him. Why? He's 2 inches shorter than her when she wears 5 inch heels, he doesn't own a car, he's got red hair, his voice is a little high pitched, or any other myriad of shallow yet important things to women. Women know how stupid it is to pass up a true and deep intellectual connection, but she can't help it : "there's just no sexual chemistry". By telling themselves that all men are whores just after sex, they can sleep soundly at night and excuse their shallowness. They irony is that the type of man they do end up dating or at the very least sleeping with is usually the "man-whore" they whine about, while the guy who isnt as tall, muscular or rich and actually takes time to get to know her gets to hear about it .
AHardDaysNight Posted September 10, 2011 Posted September 10, 2011 That's not due to ignorance, but rather moral convenience. All Women, yes, ALL, know atleast 1 guy who is single, has many mutual interests, is lovable and all in all a solid fellow, and they romantically ignore him. Why? He's 2 inches shorter than her when she wears 5 inch heels, he doesn't own a car, he's got red hair, his voice is a little high pitched, or any other myriad of shallow yet important things to women. Women know how stupid it is to pass up a true and deep intellectual connection, but she can't help it : "there's just no sexual chemistry". By telling themselves that all men are whores just after sex, they can sleep soundly at night and excuse their shallowness. They irony is that the type of man they do end up dating or at the very least sleeping with is usually the "man-whore" they whine about, while the guy who isnt as tall, muscular or rich and actually takes time to get to know her gets to hear about it . And then it's the man's fault when she won't date him. "Because he didn't work out/get contacts/get a haircut/wear stylish clothes/get less socially awkward/insert excuse here." It's not misogyny to point this out. I see it displayed everywhere, even on this very forum, towards myself!
Mme. Chaucer Posted September 10, 2011 Posted September 10, 2011 posted by IRC333: I know a woman, late 40's who dated such a man for 5 years, she'd even flirt with other women right in front of her, they never lived together, because he preferred to have his own bachelor pad that he could bring women back to. He must've cheated multiple times on her, each time begging her forgiveness, and she'd take him back. One day she finally didn't take him back, but he's always texting her behind his current "girlfriend's" back. He wanted his cake and eat it too, with women. So what? This is an archtype which has been present in societies, art, literature, etc. since the beginnings of recorded history. Nothing new. Some women go for guys like this. Too bad for them. That's not due to ignorance, but rather moral convenience. All Women, yes, ALL, know atleast 1 guy who is single, has many mutual interests, is lovable and all in all a solid fellow, and they romantically ignore him. Why? He's 2 inches shorter than her when she wears 5 inch heels, he doesn't own a car, he's got red hair, his voice is a little high pitched, or any other myriad of shallow yet important things to women. Yep. And ALL men know at least one woman who is single, has many mutual interests, is lovable and all in all a solid gal, and they romantically ignore her. Why? SHE IS FAT. I could stop there; that's enough, but maybe she is old, is sexually promiscuous or has been, has kids, has warts on her face, has no boobs, cusses like a sailor,or any other myriad of shallow yet important things to men. Women know how stupid it is to pass up a true and deep intellectual connection, but she can't help it : "there's just no sexual chemistry". By telling themselves that all men are whores just after sex, they can sleep soundly at night and excuse their shallowness. They irony is that the type of man they do end up dating or at the very least sleeping with is usually the "man-whore" they whine about, while the guy who isnt as tall, muscular or rich and actually takes time to get to know her gets to hear about it . Oh, come on. Get a grip on reality. Men AND women want to have a sexual relationship with a person with whom THEY HAVE SEXUAL CHEMISTRY. That's not shallow. That's just perfectly fine. Stop trying to torque this around to yet another way to denigrate women. It's not working at all. And YOU sound like the big whiner.
aj22one Posted September 10, 2011 Posted September 10, 2011 Oh, come on. Get a grip on reality. Men AND women want to have a sexual relationship with a person with whom THEY HAVE SEXUAL CHEMISTRY. Just musing here, but do you think it's entirely possible that there are more and more men these days who possess absolutely no sexual chemistry? And perhaps these are the men seen so frequently on here bemoaning their lot in life? Again, just a conversational question, not trying to stir the pot or anything.
Star Gazer Posted September 10, 2011 Posted September 10, 2011 Just musing here, but do you think it's entirely possible that there are more and more men these days who possess absolutely no sexual chemistry? And perhaps these are the men seen so frequently on here bemoaning their lot in life? Again, just a conversational question, not trying to stir the pot or anything. A person - male or female - doesn't have sexual chemistry alone, in a vacuum. Sexual chemistry exists BETWEEN TWO PEOPLE.
AHardDaysNight Posted September 10, 2011 Posted September 10, 2011 Just musing here, but do you think it's entirely possible that there are more and more men these days who possess absolutely no sexual chemistry? And perhaps these are the men seen so frequently on here bemoaning their lot in life? Again, just a conversational question, not trying to stir the pot or anything. Probably more nerds around today than ever before.
AHardDaysNight Posted September 10, 2011 Posted September 10, 2011 A person - male or female - doesn't have sexual chemistry alone, in a vacuum. Sexual chemistry exists BETWEEN TWO PEOPLE. What if a person doesn't know how to reciprocate interest? Then they won't know how to show their side of sexual chemistry.
ThsAmericanLife Posted September 10, 2011 Posted September 10, 2011 Just musing here, but do you think it's entirely possible that there are more and more men these days who possess absolutely no sexual chemistry? And perhaps these are the men seen so frequently on here bemoaning their lot in life? Again, just a conversational question, not trying to stir the pot or anything. Yes... it is infinitely easier to blame someone else... anyone, anything... than do something about it. Even easier to spend time here than making progress on those things some people THINK are hard and fast (no pun intended!!) requirements for finding love. We've all done it. Spent our time on the pity potty... people forget that noone's life is perfect. Noone's. Not even the seemingly 'perfect' ones.
somedude81 Posted September 10, 2011 Posted September 10, 2011 Just musing here, but do you think it's entirely possible that there are more and more men these days who possess absolutely no sexual chemistry? And perhaps these are the men seen so frequently on here bemoaning their lot in life? Again, just a conversational question, not trying to stir the pot or anything. A person - male or female - doesn't have sexual chemistry alone, in a vacuum. Sexual chemistry exists BETWEEN TWO PEOPLE. I think he means men who don't know how to generate sexual chemistry. And that is exactly my issue. I don't know what I'm doing and no woman has ever, "liked me that way." And yes, I'm told that over and over again by every girl I've wanted more than friendship with.
Mme. Chaucer Posted September 10, 2011 Posted September 10, 2011 Just musing here, but do you think it's entirely possible that there are more and more men these days who possess absolutely no sexual chemistry? And perhaps these are the men seen so frequently on here bemoaning their lot in life? Again, just a conversational question, not trying to stir the pot or anything. That might be true. I have no idea, or really any opinion about it. What I do know is that the days are gone when a woman "needed" a man to provide for her; also, that a man was going to have to take on a woman's needs (materially) as his responsibility. So, the pleasures of one another's company and companionship are more important, probably, than they were in decades past. Sexual chemistry is part of this. Too bad for the fat, old, short, red haired, boobless, acne - riddled, etc. among us.
somedude81 Posted September 10, 2011 Posted September 10, 2011 Too bad for the fat, old, short, red haired, boobless, acne - riddled, etc. among us. They still get to date and have sex, assuming all the above were women.
proactivedreamer Posted September 10, 2011 Posted September 10, 2011 There seems to be a lot of women bashing going on in this forum, and I have to say that I don't like it. I don't know what is going on, but cool it on the absolutes. furthermore, NOT EVERYONE WANTS TO BE IN A RELATIONSHIP! All I ever hear is "I want to be with someone... blah blah blah!" I have said it myself, but after a while, one has to start thinking about other things. Yes, sometimes we all get lonely, but it doesn't last forever. There is more to life than being in a relationship.There is so much to look forward to, and yes, sure, relationships are nice, but they are not everything life has to offer. Try to be happy where you can! No one wants to be with someone they are not attracted to! That is reality! Accept it and try to be the best person you can be!
Mme. Chaucer Posted September 10, 2011 Posted September 10, 2011 They still get to date and have sex, assuming all the above were women. That's what YOU think. It's been well established that you (no offense intended, truly) have little experience with women. I doubt you have much knowledge about what's really going on with the majority of us. Whoever is "dating and having sex" is offering something that is wanted by whomever they are dating and having sex with. If many guys will just date a vaj, then I guess that's the sad truth. It doesn't make things any better for women if that is indeed the case.
aj22one Posted September 10, 2011 Posted September 10, 2011 I think he means men who don't know how to generate sexual chemistry. And that is exactly my issue. I don't know what I'm doing and no woman has ever, "liked me that way." And yes, I'm told that over and over again by every girl I've wanted more than friendship with. That's precisely what I meant. I happen to not have any problems with this (lucky for me). However, after lurking around this forum for almost a year, I'm wondering if this might be a good topic for some sociological research (put my degree to good use). That, and I generally want to help out some of my fellow men on here who clearly need some help (women too I suppose, although I don't think I'd be too good with that).
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