Man, I trust women less and less everyday

[muse08]

I think MEN do it worse.

 

Exactly and people take it as the norm for men because "they're visual"(overkill). Lol...

 

I'm a female+ I'm an artist, so I'm very "visual", but shucks, I can control my eyes for the sake of being respectful. I did slip and stare at a guy while with my guy once and my guy/ex gave me hell over it.

Edited September 9, 2011 by muse08

[SteveC80]

When i was working in manhattan i got hit on everyday by married women

 

Wome are wired to be attention whores its just in their nature, and all it takes is for them to be drunk and a weak moment and most will cheat

[threebyfate]

When i was working in manhattan i got hit on everyday by married women

 

Wome are wired to be attention whores its just in their nature, and all it takes is for them to be drunk and a weak moment and most will cheat

Strange how none of my married female friends, myself or relatives have ever cheated and of what I'm aware of, many have had a lot of chances.

 

Don't know what environment you've lived in but it's obviously not a very healthy one.

[SteveC80]

Strange how none of my married female friends, myself or relatives have ever cheated and of what I'm aware of, many have had a lot of chances.

 

Don't know what environment you've lived in but it's obviously not a very healthy one.

 

I didnt say every women but the percentage is quite high, women just keep it quiet more then men but they have even less control of their hormones then Men contrary to popular belief

[threebyfate]

I didnt say every women but the percentage is quite high, women just keep it quiet more then men but they have even less control of their hormones then Men contrary to popular belief

Like I said, not a very healthy environment. This isn't to say that there aren't any women who won't cheat because there are. But to believe that every or most women cheat is really not accurate.

 

On the otherhand, it depends on what you call cheating. If you believe that lighthearted flirting and OMG looking at someone is cheating, then you're probably right. But if that's the metric then ALL men DEFINITIVELY cheat.

 

Myself, I don't hold to that ridiculous thought police metric.

[Woggle]

You're not shining light on why "men" may behave the way they do. Nearly the same thing can be said for them... are they somehow more magically protected from their childhood than women are?

 

Surely many men have grown up under bad circumstances. Surely many have felt "pressured" and perhaps even "less" valuable than "women" in their lives and have "reasons" to behave poorly too.

 

Perhaps we can never fully fathom one another, but we all bleed and hurt just the same.

 

Ultimately... both men and women have responsibilities unto themselves... and both can be jaded by HUMANITY. Both can be overcome by their weaknesses and both can also prevail over them. People do tend to treat others how they've been treated... or at least express the essence of something in a way that they deem equal to it. All too often people become what they despise, without even being aware it's occurring...

 

Regardless...

 

Both men and women are simultaneously snakes and angels... at varying times, at varying degrees. Every person has their own story, their own culmination of experiences and memories (and neither are 100% understood/remembered accurately by the individual, never mind by others).

 

In the end we have to be the best person "we" can be, whether we are a man or a woman. Each gender may face more typical challenges than the other does, but there are always exceptions and ways to draw similarities. It doesn't help to "blame" others for our flaws... how will we ever have the power to change them when we keep giving that power away so carelessly to others?

 

Exactly. There are many men who have done nothing wrong to a woman and yet when we are heart people act like we deserved it. It makes some men wonder what is the point trying to respect women when we are treated scum no matter what? Like I have said in other threads I used to take my friends to task about how they treated women but after I was cheated on and played I honestly don't care anymore. Why should I go out of my way to condemn men who mistreat women when many women seem to celebrate it when men are mistreated?

[AHardDaysNight]

Either sex being mistreated is wrong. Simple as.

[Woggle]

Either sex being mistreated is wrong. Simple as.

 

I agree but let some women but certainly not all here tell and it is only wrong when their gender is.

[Dusk1983]

Alot of insecure people around here. This is just the way we as humans are set up. The 'wandering eye', far from being an evil thing, is the primary mechanism of evolution.

 

The lesson is:

 

ALWAYS keep some game, be you male or female.

 

You see a girl checking you out when next to her boyfriend? Well, THAT guy is a chump who has likely given up all his power and mystery in that relationship.

 

He's not a challenge anymore. He REQUIRES no further attention. Don't let that happen to you.

[daphne]

I find it interesting that when it happens once to a guy, there's a thread and the angry men's cavalry to come to the rescue to talk about how bad women are for behaving a fraction like men. I'm waiting for the 20/20 newscast about how society is going to hell in a hand basket because of it.

 

Guys, wake up call. Men do this regularly to women. Not all men, but a large number of them. And 3 times as much in any place in Italy. This last sentence is purely anecdotal.

 

[Elysian Powder]

Alot of insecure people around here. This is just the way we as humans are set up. The 'wandering eye', far from being an evil thing, is the primary mechanism of evolution.

 

The lesson is:

 

ALWAYS keep some game, be you male or female.

 

You see a girl checking you out when next to her boyfriend? Well, THAT guy is a chump who has likely given up all his power and mystery in that relationship.

 

He's not a challenge anymore. He REQUIRES no further attention. Don't let that happen to you.

 

Or the guy could do the right action, the only option that will stop his gf from cheating on him. Dump her. Human beings aren't monogamous. Most people will cheat if the opportunity presents itself and if the offerer of that opportunity is attractive etc.

 

I always find it most amusing when I see a guy holding his gf in a bear-hug and using his eyes as a radar, trying to pick up any incoming threat to his status quo as her boyfriend.

 

Try that with younger couples. Watch how a woman in her prime(18-22) is loyal to her boyfriend when an attractive guy is near her. Older women will only give him the eye because they aren't in high demand anymore, but the 18-22 year old woman will give her poon to the guy in the bathroom.

[LoveandSuch]

But hasn't anyone experienced the opposite! You are walking toward a couple, the man spots you, and gets the, Oh Sh*t! expression and almost squints his eyes shut, lol but will quickly face his head down toward the ground, or looks everywhere else, you can almost feel the tension, as if he is saying, I am not looking, no one is there, because of some possible reprecussion from his SO. I have experienced this from all age groups.

[rafallus]

Just another gender war, move on, nothing to see here.

[Elysian Powder]

But hasn't anyone experienced the opposite! You are walking toward a couple, the man spots you, and gets the, Oh Sh*t! expression and almost squints his eyes shut, lol but will quickly face his head down toward the ground, or looks everywhere else, you can almost feel the tension, as if he is saying, I am not looking, no one is there, because of some possible reprecussion from his SO. I have experienced this from all age groups.

 

Didn't I just say that both sexes will cheat if they can do it without being caught, or at least will drain some attention from the opposite sex, which can be considered cheating - to a lesser degree - because that person is causing the ''foreigner'' to provide the attention.

[LoveandSuch]

Didn't I just say that both sexes will cheat if they can do it without being caught, or at least will drain some attention from the opposite sex, which can be considered cheating - to a lesser degree - because that person is causing the ''foreigner'' to provide the attention.

 

What does this reply have to do with what I wrote:confused:

[LoveandSuch]

Or the guy could do the right action, the only option that will stop his gf from cheating on him. Dump her. Human beings aren't monogamous. Most people will cheat if the opportunity presents itself and if the offerer of that opportunity is attractive etc.

 

I always find it most amusing when I see a guy holding his gf in a bear-hug and using his eyes as a radar, trying to pick up any incoming threat to his status quo as her boyfriend.

 

Try that with younger couples. Watch how a woman in her prime(18-22) is loyal to her boyfriend when an attractive guy is near her. Older women will only give him the eye because they aren't in high demand anymore, but the 18-22 year old woman will give her poon to the guy in the bathroom.

 

What is up with your ageism, sorry, women older than 22 well into there 30s and 40s (Jennifer Anniston, who is extremely cute, and not even smoldering hot) can game almost any man moreso than women between 18-22. All women who keep themselves up and are hot are in high demand regardless of age!!!:D:D

[Elysian Powder]

Strange how none of my married female friends, myself or relatives have ever cheated and of what I'm aware of, many have had a lot of chances.

 

Don't know what environment you've lived in but it's obviously not a very healthy one.

 

And how would you know that?

 

Do you spend all of your time with them? Did you get a tracking device installed on their cars? Do you maintain a hidden video camera in the women's bedroom? Do you take their word at face value? Is that how you know that your girlfriends don't cheat? They're compassionate, dedicated, and lovable? Does that mean that they'd never entertain the thought of harming their husbands, and the men who meet women like this ''type'' are obviously not looking in the right places for a wife, or haven't given enough time to the ''get to know each other'' stage?

 

Say what. One day you find a lump on top of your head. You talk about this to someone. That person says that it's nothing to worry about. Will you go to the doctor? Or are you going to accept the person's reassurance with no proof that your health is not going to be endangered by listening to words, not actions?

 

Women's relationships today follow

a very predictable pattern:

 

They push men for commitment

 

They get what they want

 

They lose interest in sex

 

They become attracted to someone else

 

They start cheating

 

They become angry and resentful

 

They begin telling their partners that they need time apart

 

They blame their partners for their behavior...and eventually, after making themselves and everyone around them miserable for an indefinite, but usually, long period of time, they end their relationships or marriages.

 

 

If you're a male, like most other males, you would probably never suspect that your partner is cheating, not only because of your wife’s or girlfriend’s seeming disinterest in sex; but also because you have the belief that your wife or girlfriend is a “good girl.” Unfortunately, males are frequently left/divorced by their wives and girlfriends without ever knowing about their wives' and girlfriends' infidelities.

 

http://www.womensinfidelity.com/

 

http://uk.askmen.com/top_10/dating_150/181_dating_list.html

 

Good luck, fellas.

Edited September 9, 2011 by Elysian Powder

[Elysian Powder]

What is up with your ageism, sorry, women older than 22 well into there 30s and 40s (Jennifer Anniston, who is extremely cute, and not even smoldering hot) can game almost any man moreso than women between 18-22. All women who keep themselves up and are hot are in high demand regardless of age!!!:D:D

 

Right. I wonder why Jennifer was in such a frenzy to get pregnant from a high quality male, but the guys banged her and dumped her. She was even dumped by Brad Pitt when she was in her younger. Nichole Kidman had to settle for a ''midget'' but before that she dated that Adam Sandler guy. Kinda of a let down from the days, when she was young and hot, of dating Tom Cruise, huh?

 

I love watching women in their 30's and up, in nightclubs - and in other social locales - complaining that there are no real men left i.e, no(high quality) male is chasing them.

 

They're kinda busy with the new batch of hot 20y.o women.

 

MY BAD .

 

This is another case of a woman admiring another woman's looks and projecting that most, if not all males, think that the woman is attractive. Are you also going to tell me that I'd sleep with Paris Hilton if I could? LOL

Edited September 9, 2011 by Elysian Powder

[madjac74]

I love watching women in their 30's and up, in nightclubs - and in other social locales - complaining that there are no real men left i.e, no(high quality) male is chasing them.

 

They're kinda busy with the new batch of hot 20y.o women.

 

MY BAD .

 

My SO is 33 and regularly gets hit on by college guys. I guess her old ass fits the "hot 20 y.o." mold

 

Are you also going to tell me that I'd sleep with Paris Hilton if I could? LOL

 

We really have no idea what you would sleep with but you are so cynical that I would guess no one

[LoveandSuch]

Right. I wonder why Jennifer was in such a frenzy to get pregnant from a high quality male, but the guys banged her and dumped her. She was even dumped by Brad Pitt when she was in her prime. Nichole Kidman had to settle for a ''midget'' but before that she dated that Adam Sandler guy. Kinda of a let down from the days, when she was young and hot, of dating Tom Cruise, huh?

 

I love watching women in their 30's and up, in nightclubs - and in other social locales - complaining that there are no real men left i.e, no(high quality) male is chasing them.

 

They're kinda busy with the new batch of hot 20y.o women.

 

MY BAD .

 

 

Sorry maybe in your world. The high quality men, with great careers, great lives, skip the 20 years olds, and from their own mouths not interested. Too immature and it would be creepy. Yes there may be many 20-25 year old men dating many 20-25 year women. That is usually how it works. You may see the rare 20-30 age difference, and that is just a golddigger needing some cash.

With the huge focus now on a wide range of fitness, face injections, and much more, women are looking hotter and hotter well into their 40s. Women have no hangups, we are in too high demand, the few low self esteemed men who are hung up on dating an 18 year old, are the ones with giant red flags, and we are happy they are out of our pool of potentials, we never wanted them and their issues.

You ask a group of college boys who is their ideal woman, and 98% would be Jennifer Anniston (40s)! Most women hit their hotness factor beginning in 30s! The younger girls are still fighting with awkward fashion ideals, baby fat, and so on.

10-15 year age spans are not bad, and doable. But still have there problems IMHO.

[sally4sara]

I guess you are right. I am surprised all the women in this thread so far have condemned this behavior.

 

Oh you're surprised in every thread. You'd think you'd be over the shock by now.

 

 

I'm not sure how looking at someone is cheating but I suppose the definition varies. I just find it normal for anyone's eyes to be drawn to what they find attractive be it a person, a hot car, or an outfit in a window display. With people specifically, its also how we make friendships with people of our own gender; you had to notice someone to begin to interact with them. I quite often see attractive men with attractive male friends and attractive women with many attractive female friends. So it stands to reason even people in relationships will still notice what they find attractive. Now someone passionately kissing their SO while staring you down is creepy and weird, but its also not how the wandering eye most often works.

 

I also read someone saying that the SO of someone looking at you out is a chump. Hmmm. Sounds more to me like an assumption one could make to think better of themselves than someone else. Like someone perennially single could walk down the street imagining transgressions of people in couples so that they can feel better about their single status? I think that might have something to do with it because you don't know them or how their relationship works and you're only assuming intent. Maybe in their relationship they are comfortable with their SO looking at other people. Maybe they do it too.

[LoveandSuch]

My SO is 33 and regularly gets hit on by college guys. I guess her old ass fits the "hot 20 y.o." mold

 

 

 

We really have no idea what you would sleep with but you are so cynical that I would guess no one

Thank you! I am in same age range and have groups of college age and younger men do the same. They all turn and make the young men hooplah, the, "Damns!!" Age is irrevelent today, it was back in the old days when 30 year olds started wearing beehives and such because it was expected of them:laugh:

[madjac74]

Thank you! I am in same age range and have groups of college age and younger men do the same. They all turn and make the young men hooplah, the, "Damns!!" Age is irrevelent today, it was back in the old days when 30 year olds started wearing beehives and such because it was expected of them:laugh:

 

I think the confidence and sophistication of an attractive 30 something woman is much more appealing than the "20 y.o. hot" dime a dozen chicks. IMO

[joeyanna]

I think the confidence and sophistication of an attractive 30 something woman is much more appealing than the "20 y.o. hot" dime a dozen chicks. IMO

Thank you for recognizing the amazing qualities of us 30 somethings!!!!

[LoveandSuch]

I think the confidence and sophistication of an attractive 30 something woman is much more appealing than the "20 y.o. hot" dime a dozen chicks. IMO

 

"Some," not generalizing men, who are so hung up on age and lust the 18 year old, especially after having daughters, are just IMHO CREEPY, it is as if they wish to sleep with their children, incest-like lizard mentality.

Have watched a few episodes of Millionare Matchmaker, do not like the show and the staff is wierd. It seems they can only find strange people to actually be on the show as suitors, the men are CREEPY, major turn offs, and ageism usually goes hand and hand with them, big red flags, never married, or serial divorcees, no personality, strange....

Meeting older men in your late 20s through 30s is much more natural than creepy old men hitting clubs to date their daughters.

*****I read some article about 2 persons meeting on a sex dating website, they kept anonymous with personal details until they met, but had explicit online sex banter, and when they met up, it was Father and daughter!!!!! Yikes!