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We need more Judges like this one.... Orders Husband to pay for lack of sex

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Toodamnpragmatic Established Member

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While a lack of passion has ended many a marriage, a French court is pushing the boundaries of who’s to blame - and how much it should cost them.

A 51-year-old Frenchman has been ordered to pay his ex-wife 10,000 euros for a dreary sex life during their 21 years of marriage.

A judge in Nice ruled that the legal code stipulating married couples must agree to a "shared communal life," implied that "sexual relations must form part of a marriage," according to the New York Daily News.

 

 

 

So, the 47-year-old woman’s charge of "lack of sex" constituted grounds for divorce, they reported.

In an appeals court, the ex-husband - identified only as Jean-Louis B. - blamed "tiredness and health problems" for his low libido, but that court also ruled in the wife's favour, reports the paper.

"A sexual relationship between husband and wife is the expression of affection they have for each other, and in this case it was absent," the judge ruled. "By getting married, couples agree to sharing their life and this clearly implies they will have sex with each other."

Over at Marie Claire’s site this morning, writer Hannah Thomas points out that the stereotype of sexy French people has taken a hit after a recent survey from the French Institute of Public Opinion found that 76 per cent of the survey's 1,000 respondents suffered relationship problems due to a poor sex life.

“Half of those polled say they have no desire to make love,” she reports.

 

 

 

Now when a man wins a verdict, I'll truly applaud....

Woggle Established Member

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I sympathize very much with people in sexless marriages but this is absurd. It sets a bad precedent and I imagine women's groups won't like it when many sexless men start doing this.

somedude81 Established Member

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It has begun.

Osiris1234 Established Member

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Any women(or man for that matter) who believes this should be legal in the U.S. has some very serious mental issues or just ****ing stupid, this would just prevent marriage even more then it already has.

 

Also how would the public respond to it if was a guy who was getting the money instead?

 

If it wasn't for women who provided sex(other then being gay) I guarantee you if men had a vagina more men would be going after men then women. :p

 

My point being is if this were to actually be legal in the U.S, marriage would cease to exist today.

TigerCub Established Member

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My point being is if this were to actually be legal in the U.S, marriage would cease to exist today.

 

Why?

If it seems like all the men out there are complaining that their wives don't put out - wouldn't this help a guy - he can get married, not get ****ed and then sue the woman who's not putting out and get $10,000.

 

Maybe more men would actually get married, if they knew they would get reimbursed if their wife doesn't put out.

 

I'm assuming that this silly law isn't just for women who don't get laid in an M.

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Any women(or man for that matter) who believes this should be legal in the U.S. has some very serious mental issues or just ****ing stupid, this would just prevent marriage even more then it already has.

 

Also how would the public respond to it if was a guy who was getting the money instead?

I think it would be a good idea, personally. When people marry sex is usually part of the expectation. If there's no sex, one of the parties is falling down on holding up their end of the deal.

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definitely a bad precedent ... and so much for the "better or worse, in sickness and in health" bit of the marital vows. Sounds like Mama wanted her pound of flesh (and to publicly humiliate her husband) before slapping him with divorce papers.

 

there are many reasons why sex ain't happening in a marriage, a lot having to do with the body's aging process and a natural decline in desire. While it's not the easiest thing to deal with, it definitely isn't the worst, IMO ~ when there's still true affection and both parties are willing to do those little physical things (kissing, hugging, snuggling, hand-holding) it reinforces the love between them and makes the burden of going without somewhat more bearable.

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I'm in s asexless marriage and even I think thats a wacky precedent....

 

Sexlessness as grounds for divorce within an at fault state/province?....absolutely!!

 

but reparations?... I dont know about that

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i don't know whether to laugh at that or throw up...since i'm already not feeling well I think I'll do both

 

not sure about how divorce laws work in france, but wouldn't a man have a defense against this if they said they didn't want to have sex beause their partner gained a huge amount of weight, let their "personal hygiene" go down the tubes, got older and less attractive to them, nagged too much or any of the other things people say?

 

can a guy lose 10,000 euros because he couldn't have sex due to health problems? could a woman lose the same beause she gained weight due to having a number of pregnancies with her husband and he no longer found her attractive?

 

where does it end?

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definitely a bad precedent ... and so much for the "better or worse, in sickness and in health" bit of the marital vows. Sounds like Mama wanted her pound of flesh (and to publicly humiliate her husband) before slapping him with divorce papers.

 

there are many reasons why sex ain't happening in a marriage, a lot having to do with the body's aging process and a natural decline in desire. While it's not the easiest thing to deal with, it definitely isn't the worst, IMO ~ when there's still true affection and both parties are willing to do those little physical things (kissing, hugging, snuggling, hand-holding) it reinforces the love between them and makes the burden of going without somewhat more bearable.

 

For YOU cuddling & snuggling make it better, for others of us it's like rubbing salt in the wounds, it feels like deliberately inflicted cruelty meted out to really make sure the one refusing sex grinds the pain into their partner.

 

You don't wanna hump? great that's your right, leave me the hell alone, go "snuggle" with the damn dog

Woggle Established Member

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I agree it is horrible but it's not something you should be able to sue over.

soserious1 Established Member

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I agree it is horrible but it's not something you should be able to sue over.

 

I didn't, my husband was the sexual refuser in our marriage, he now collects alimony for life from me.

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For YOU cuddling & snuggling make it better, for others of us it's like rubbing salt in the wounds, it feels like deliberately inflicted cruelty meted out to really make sure the one refusing sex grinds the pain into their partner.

 

You don't wanna hump? great that's your right, leave me the hell alone, go "snuggle" with the damn dog

What if a guy enjoys kissing and snuggling more than sex? Most women would die to have a man who only want kissing and snuggling without sex.

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What if a guy enjoys kissing and snuggling more than sex? Most women would die to have a man who only want kissing and snuggling without sex.

 

I've never been into cuddling and snuggling, I'm a woman who prefers, hot,raw sex minus all the lifetime tv moments.

musemaj11 Established Member

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I've never been into cuddling and snuggling, I'm a woman who prefers, hot,raw sex minus all the lifetime tv moments.

Cuddling is an act of affection and bonding. For me cuddling is a lot more emotionally satisfying than sex.

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What if a guy enjoys kissing and snuggling more than sex? Most women would die to have a man who only want kissing and snuggling without sex.

 

Uh, but a guy like that would actually be acting like a woman.

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Cuddling is an act of affection and bonding. For me cuddling is a lot more emotionally satisfying than sex.

 

That's nice, sorry but I have family and friends to talk with if I want "emotional satisfaction" all I want from an intimate partner is a ride on his Johnson, I don't want to make him my cuddle biatch or emotional tampon, I don't want to share anything with him beyond my body, for me the boundaries are very clear.

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Toodamnpragmatic Established Member

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That's nice, sorry but I have family and friends to talk with if I want "emotional satisfaction" all I want from an intimate partner is a ride on his Johnson, I don't want to make him my cuddle biatch or emotional tampon, I don't want to share anything with him beyond my body, for me the boundaries are very clear.

 

I missed you. Glad to see you haven't softened on your stances or opinions...:p;):laugh:

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I'm thinking that's a compliment but also wondering if the judges ruling could be misunderstood as condoning prostitution, LOL

 

Also makes me wonder how the judge came up with that figure :-P

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That's nice, sorry but I have family and friends to talk with if I want "emotional satisfaction" all I want from an intimate partner is a ride on his Johnson, I don't want to make him my cuddle biatch or emotional tampon, I don't want to share anything with him beyond my body, for me the boundaries are very clear.

 

 

if that what turns your crank, that's fine for you, but not everyone is like you. some want more from their husband/wife than just sex. if hat is what they want, then that's fine for them.

 

to each their own.

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if that what turns your crank, that's fine for you, but not everyone is like you. some want more from their husband/wife than just sex. if hat is what they want, then that's fine for them.

 

to each their own.

 

Excuse me but reread what I wrote please, I told the person I was responding to to "that's nice" concerning his preferences & went on to describe what works for me. At no time did I say that others can't have their own preferences

 

Also, I don't want a husband or a committed relationship of any sort, quite frankly,a couple of drinks, maybe a bite to eat ( my treat) some hot raw sex minus cuddling or Hallmark moments, then we both go our separate ways.

 

I'm finding that life as an easy slut is helluva lot more satisfying than being a faithful bread winning lil'l wifey ever was,heck I actually get to have sex now.

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Toodamnpragmatic Established Member

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Excuse me but reread what I wrote please, I told the person I was responding to to "that's nice" concerning his preferences & went on to describe what works for me. At no time did I say that others can't have their own preferences

 

Also, I don't want a husband or a committed relationship of any sort, quite frankly,a couple of drinks, maybe a bite to eat ( my treat) some hot raw sex minus cuddling or Hallmark moments, then we both go our separate ways.

 

I'm finding that life as an easy slut is helluva lot more satisfying than being a faithful bread winning lil'l wifey ever was,heck I actually get to have sex now.

 

good for you:D.... Last you posted you were being set up with 70 year olds......:laugh:

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good for you:D.... Last you posted you were being set up with 70 year olds......:laugh:

 

Yeah, when friends try to set me up now I just tell them thanks but no thanks as I'm dating somebody, that puts an end to the blind dates from the assisted living center.:D I use various online services to find purely casual encounters it works quite well.

musemaj11 Established Member

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I feel for you Soserious1. You seem like a good, giving, non-golddigging woman. You sound a lot like me. A cynic who has lost faith in the idea of 'love'. Its saddening that when I look around me, it seems that good men and women tend to end up with selfish partners who hurt them in the end.

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If this were reversed, and the woman had to pay, there would be a huge uproar from feminist groups.

 

I find this ridiculous.

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