Good women appreciate kind gentlemen - agree?

[AHardDaysNight]

Do you agree with this statement or not?

[Cypress25]

Of course they do. That's not to say that every woman will want to date every kind gentleman. He's got to have other qualities that she's looking for too.

[Woggle]

For the most part yes. Look at the women who are addicted to jerks and ask yourself if they are any better than the men they lust after.

[KathyM]

Kindness is important in a man. That's one of the most important qualities in a partner.

[AHardDaysNight]

I agree with that.

 

And it's reasonable to attribute being nice to just being a good person.

 

I don't want to date every good person, but I want to date A good person. If she falls into that criteria, then she's datable.

 

I suspect the same goes in reverse.

[kiss_andmakeup]

Absolutely.

 

However, Cypress said it well. While kindness and "gentlemanly" attributes are high on the list, other qualities are important as well.

[soulm8]

Agreed.

[rafallus]

But don't think a kind gentleman is all it takes. If you take a kind gentleman, who can't make advances towards a female, he will still fail miserably and kindness won't save him.

[AHardDaysNight]

That's me.

 

I am a kind gentleman who doesn't make advances. Therefore, I never get anywhere.

[Elysian Powder]

For the most part yes. Look at the women who are addicted to jerks and ask yourself if they are any better than the men they lust after.

 

Well, when you live in a very morally decent neighborhood, and you see the young thug who got caught by the police stealing an orphanage have young, very attractive women enter and leave his house 24/7 all flustered and with their pupils dilated, you kinda know that being a gentleman might work out - in the short run - and even if you happen to find that unicorn it's impossible to erase the fact that the thug is far more genetically successful.

 

What is the purpose of life?

 

To reproduce.

 

I guess the lowlife thug, who ain't even anything worthwhile to look at, defeated all of the good, hardworking, 'real men' out there.

 

Especially when you think of how the women the thug is sleeping are everlasting young(changing women all the time), will never nag on you and eventually, when they cheat on you or dump you; you won't have to succumb to a lifetime of financial and emotional hell.

 

Gee, Mr. Charles Darwin, you forgot to mention in your books how sexual attraction works.

 

What I find most amusing is how these young women act during the night and how different they are in Church .

 

I gotta give it to them. They're gonna hurt those groins hard with the bad boy, and marry a good man, 10 to 20 years from now.

 

Oh yeah, my ''bitterness' and the thug's ''lack of respect for women'' sure do not explain why he has his house filled with women, and the gentlemen next door are giving the good old rub while looking at the playboy channel.

 

You know why you are alive?

 

Your ancestors found a way for women to open their legs.

 

Women are returning to their ancient mating strategy. With that becoming more obvious by the day, and women and men being naturally polygamous, the gentleman is going to have many lonely nights.

 

Adapt to the changing sexual scenario by becoming a bad boy/douchebag/rich/famous/good-looking...

 

Or turn into a bitter old man, angered at how women told you to be nice and kind to women with the unwanted result of being a woman's white knight, whereby some guy who is a ''jerk'' is keeping her feet warm. Walk upon that path and you shall see what will happen.

 

PS: plenty of good women and good men turn out be bad apples.

 

Do you think that niceness is going to protect you from the consequences inherent to a woman or man turning bad?

Edited September 5, 2011 by Elysian Powder

[Elysian Powder]

That's me.

 

I am a kind gentleman who doesn't make advances. Therefore, I never get anywhere.

 

Your problem is that you put women on a pedestal. You've never had that much contact(being their best male ''friend'' doesn't matter) with them, so you assume that they want the type of man you probably watched in those movies from the 50's.(never mind how good-looking those guys were).

 

Or maybe your mother(or female friends) told you that women like mild-mannered, chivalrous men, to listen to their fears, help carrying their furniture, and take care of their dogs when they go out of town for those 'all girls weekends ''.

 

 

Look, I'll be honest.

 

Women want to be ****ed. They don't want to be treated like little fragile flowers. I know that they look up to you to make them feel better.

 

But don't you want to feel good? Have you ever had a very tight 20 year old vagina wrapping around your salami?

 

No? You'll never had such a scenario happening - unless you drop the gentleman act and go get some.

 

That trick used to work, but not anymore.

 

Get a surfer haircut, dress like a douchebag, befriend men who can attract women, and pull a lot of iron; transform your body and your mind. Approach as many women as your surroundings can produce.Talk to them. Tease them. Ignore them. Reject them. Get slapped. Bang them!

 

You won't lack for female attention. Just drop the white knight masquerade. It only results in sexual frustration and you'll be the subject of many a woman jokes regarding beta males.

Edited September 5, 2011 by Elysian Powder

[grkBoy]

Do you agree with this statement or not?

 

I agree.

 

The problem is too many guys have different definitions of a "good woman".

 

So they'll see the hot girl who loves jerks as a "good woman" simply because she's hot...but fail to see she's NOT a "good woman" because she loves jerks.

 

It's why I try to use the term WOMAN for the females who go after actual good men and make good decisions about their love lives. The GIRLS are the females who do the opposite.

[KathyM]

Well, when you live in a very morally decent neighborhood, and you see the young thug who got caught by the police stealing an orphanage have young, very attractive women enter and leave his house 24/7 all flustered and with their pupils dilated, you kinda know that being a gentleman might work out - in the short run - and even if you happen to find that unicorn it's impossible to erase the fact that the thug is far more genetically successful.

 

What is the purpose of life?

 

To reproduce.

 

I guess the lowlife thug, who ain't even anything worthwhile to look at, defeated all of the good, hardworking, 'real men' out there.

 

Especially when you think of how the women the thug is sleeping are everlasting young(changing women all the time), will never nag on you and eventually, when they cheat on you or dump you; you won't have to succumb to a lifetime of financial and emotional hell.

 

Gee, Mr. Charles Darwin, you forgot to mention in your books how sexual attraction works.

 

What I find most amusing is how these young women act during the night and how different they are in Church .

 

I gotta give it to them. They're gonna hurt those groins hard with the bad boy, and marry a good man, 10 to 20 years from now.

 

Oh yeah, my ''bitterness' and the thug's ''lack of respect for women'' sure do not explain why he has his house filled with women, and the gentlemen next door are giving the good old rub while looking at the playboy channel.

 

You know why you are alive?

 

Your ancestors found a way for women to open their legs.

 

Women are returning to their ancient mating strategy. With that becoming more obvious by the day, and women and men being naturally polygamous, the gentleman is going to have many lonely nights.

 

Adapt to the changing sexual scenario by becoming a bad boy/douchebag/rich/famous/good-looking...

 

Or turn into a bitter old man, angered at how women told you to be nice and kind to women with the unwanted result of being a woman's white knight, whereby some guy who is a ''jerk'' is keeping her feet warm. Walk upon that path and you shall see what will happen.

 

PS: plenty of good women and good men turn out be bad apples.

 

Do you think that niceness is going to protect you from the consequences inherent to a woman or man turning bad?

You have a pretty jaded view of relationships and people in general. Fact is, people generally gravitate towards those that are like them. If they are good people, they seek others with similar values. If they are bad or that is what they are used to because of their upbringing or experiences, then they gravitate towards the bad boys. All the women you see going into that druggy's house are probably druggies themselves, or they just like the money that comes from that. Are those types of women really the ones you would want to have yourself? There are plenty of nice guys out there that are with nice girls. There are also plenty of bad guys out there that have girls who are also messed up. You are acting like only the bad guys can get a girl. That is not the case.

[rafallus]

That's me.

 

I am a kind gentleman who doesn't make advances. Therefore, I never get anywhere.

 

At least you know your problem.

 

Bigger question: what are you gonna do about it?

[Woggle]

There are plenty of privileged suburban idiots who don't appreciate what they have and want to live the life that decent people from the ghetto would give an arm to escape from. This is not a gender specific issue. My friend's little brother used to be a wannabe that he was a thug and would go to New York to pose for pictures in front of high rise projects.

[xoxoDaniellexoxo]

I agree.

 

The problem is too many guys have different definitions of a "good woman".

 

So they'll see the hot girl who loves jerks as a "good woman" simply because she's hot...but fail to see she's NOT a "good woman" because she loves jerks.

 

It's why I try to use the term WOMAN for the females who go after actual good men and make good decisions about their love lives. The GIRLS are the females who do the opposite.

 

Well said! I would consider myself a good decision maker, though I make mistakes like everyone else! I don't think every person my age is like that, my age group is infamous for bad decisions but I like to think I matured a little faster. I can say that I have never gone after the "bad boy" type, sorry but if a guy is going to act like a moron or be a player I won't waste my time. I don't want to be on a pedistal cause I would eventually not live up to that standard, I am sure as heck not perfect. As long as you respect me and treat me well, the same way I will treat you then I will be happy.

[somedude81]

Appreciate

1. to be grateful or thankful for: They appreciated his thoughtfulness.

 

 

verb (used with object) 2. to value or regard highly; place a high estimate on: to appreciate good wine.

 

3. to be fully conscious of; be aware of; detect: to appreciate the dangers of a situation.

 

4. to raise in value.

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OK, now why would you a woman to appreciate you?

 

Nowhere in that definiation did it include the words attraction, desire, lusting etc.

[denise_xo]

Depends how you define being a 'gentleman'. I'm not into traditional style courting or the man always opening the door and that kind of thing. However, I love the kind of refined and gentle sensitivity/kindness that some men use very skillfully (and playfully) as part of social interaction. It makes me all mushy

[Elysian Powder]

You have a pretty jaded view of relationships and people in general. Fact is, people generally gravitate towards those that are like them. If they are good people, they seek others with similar values. If they are bad or that is what they are used to because of their upbringing or experiences, then they gravitate towards the bad boys. All the women you see going into that druggy's house are probably druggies themselves, or they just like the money that comes from that. Are those types of women really the ones you would want to have yourself? There are plenty of nice guys out there that are with nice girls. There are also plenty of bad guys out there that have girls who are also messed up. You are acting like only the bad guys can get a girl. That is not the case.

 

How can I be jaded about people and relationships when I'm one of the least emotionally bruised human beings out there? You are right about one thing. In one aspect of it's significance. I am familiar with human nature and I act in accordance to what I want.

 

Fact is, people generally gravitate towards those that are like them. If they are good people, they seek others with similar values.

 

Back when I was a boy scout, we used to share our headquarters with the girls. They'd smuggle in the older guys, those who had money to buy beers for them.

 

I'm not talking about trash women. Great students, very devoted to their families, and pious. They'd walk around helping people, but when it was time to date, it was always the bad boy who got first pick, and the good guy got access to them only much after.

 

Women gravitate to the men they find attractive. I've met many a good woman dating the model/good-looking dummy/arm candy and then marrying the guys they ignored when they were young.

 

that is what they are used to because of their upbringing or experiences, then they gravitate towards the bad boys.

 

Do people still believe in this? Women choose the men they want, it has nothing to do with how they were raised. An example stretching back in time..

 

My Great-Grandmother. Very beautiful and the daughter of a successful merchant. She used to tell me how idyllic her childhood was and how she met good-looking, romantic young gentlemen from all of Europe.

 

Yet, despite the possibility of having any man, she chose my great-grandfather. He was poor, a womanizer, and all he had going for him was his 6'6'' height, his 220 pounds frame, and a face that could make Brad Pitt cry.

 

That's how it is. The other guys had everything. Richness, education, good manners, youth, and good-looks, but were surpassed by a sailor, poor as dirt, and with the behavior of a bad boy.

 

A more recent example. At the age of 14, a classmate of mine(same age) ran away from home to be with a bad boy, 4 years older, and with a shack as his house. Her father is the reverend. Had everything good for her. Was wanted by kids her age, but she had her sights set on a 18 year old garbage collector.

 

Many marriages and long-term by people who were equals have I witnessed their dismiss; but this woman is still with this sub par human being.

 

Her parents have offered help many times. They want to have their granddaughter with them. The woman won't budge. She won't leave the man who treats her like dirt.

All the women you see going into that druggy's house are probably druggies themselves,

 

This kid doesn't have any money. His phone is monitored. He can't leave his house and the women go to him.

r they just like the money that comes from that.

 

What money? A 5 year old kid has more money than him. The cops cleaned out his bank account. He has to depend on his entourage of women for toothpaste.

 

Are those types of women really the ones you would want to have yourself?

 

Yes. That is the type of woman I really want to have(for an hour or so). They are usually so attractive. What they can do to a man is out of this world. With bodies created by the gods, a skill in bed only comparable to the greatest Italian Courtesans of the 16th century.

 

Divine is what they are. No interest in commitment, only in wild monkey type sex. I won't have to put up with them, I won't have any obligations.

 

Nice girls don't put out for free. You can find yourself waiting months for them to put out. They're not that good in bed, they lack the instability and the drama that the 'bad girl' creates, and the excitement in banging them is momentary.

 

They're so white bread. I want a roller coaster of emotions. I want the violent sex these kittens channel.

 

Besides. Most of the nice guys I know of have been cheated on by their nice girls, or are paying bills and playing 'grown-up'', 'real man'.

 

Nah, I'm not into that. I like alcohol, fast cars, hot women, and money.

 

You are acting like only the bad guys can get a girl. That is not the case.

 

There's a world of difference between being the guy(bad boy) who has fun, uncommitted sex with a young, attractive woman; and being the guy who picks up the tab.

 

Hell no. I know that most of the bad girls are worn out, but I'm not interested in dating them; I only want to bang them.

 

I'd only date a nice girl, but I found out that picking a nice girl, treating her in a way as to make her a bad girl, is far more fun than dating her.

 

I also have a dark satisfaction in knowing that the next guy to come is going to pay(in any way or shape) for what I had, untampered goods, with no investment.

 

I've been in both types of shoes. I've been the bad boy and I've been the good guy. The bad boy play is far more fun.

[bluenightowl]

I've been in both types of shoes. I've been the bad boy and I've been the good guy. The bad boy play is far more fun.

 

There is some truth to what you are saying if you just want fun. If you want a relationship, be careful about wishing for too much drama, although the sex might be amazing.

[AHardDaysNight]

I'd say that women are attracted to stability, too. Little girls are attracted to drama.

 

Some women mature faster than others, too.

[Chicago_Guy]

Do you agree with this statement or not?

 

As other people have posted, it depends upon your definition of "good woman."

 

Most women absolutely don't appreciate a kind gentleman and assume that he's a chump or a wimp if he is too gentlemanly. Most women only appreciate gentlemanly behavior if they already like the guy for for other reasons.

[duckrepair]

I love a gentleman ..The really old-fashioned kind.. or just a sweet guy. I went out with a much older man eons ago. And he offered to walk me to my car... and he opened all the doors. Even MY car door when I was getting in. Never seen that before... And havent seen it again.

[Chicago_Guy]

I'd say that women are attracted to stability, too. Little girls are attracted to drama.

 

Some women mature faster than others, too.

 

However, a lot of women only settle for the stable guy because they realize that their biological clocks are ticking and the unstable guys whom them normally date don't want to marry those women. Many women like this will eventually grow to resent the stable guy for being too "boring."

[wilsonx]

However, a lot of women only settle for the stable guy because they realize that their biological clocks are ticking and the unstable guys whom them normally date don't want to marry those women. Many women like this will eventually grow to resent the stable guy for being too "boring."

 

And your proof of this concept lies where?

 

What you do not know is a stable emotionally mature woman will not let something that "Works" goes. If the old car so to speak gets her from point A to point B, she will be happy with the old car ("Stable Guy")

 

You are referring to the emotionally immature women that "THINK" they want a stable guy. When they realize that they aren't comfortable and feel too safe with the stable guy thats when they go looking for the unstable guy

 

There's a huge difference.

 

Not only that but the genders can be flipped and the same principles apply