Karma for bad boys and girls?

[mike1988]

The guys who are the "bad boys" and get the girls will mostly likely spend their lives in and out of jail, and never amount to much. These are often guys who don't respect authority, drink and do drugs, ect. I have seen first hand these guys fail miserably and only a very small fraction will succeed.

 

The girls who go for those guys usually end up single moms with multiple kids unable to find work, or a husband and have significant mileage by the time they reach their mid-30s. You see a ton of this especially nowadays, and this stems back to them going for the bad boys.

 

So in the end, karma comes back those enjoying life now who are the "bad boys" and the hot girls ignoring and rejecting the "nice guys". Is it wrong that I seem to feel no sympathy when this happens as they do it to themselves? Does that make me cold-hearted or close-minded or am I correct?

 

When I mention this logic to girls my age they instantly get mad, and I begin to wonder if they find themselves in the beginnings or present situation that I described.

[grkBoy]

In the case of the men, life changes them. I'm 38 now, and all the "bad boys" I've seen around my social circles are still single, claiming how much they love their freedom and marriage is a "trap", but I also see a deep hatred of women in general.

 

I don't see these guys ending up with the gorgeous smart sexy girl, but stuck in a place where the only physically desirable women they find are "messed up women" or very young women. It's always funny to see a mid-30s guy going after an 18 year old. I'll see them lament on how every hot chick they meet is an overgrown teenager working in a clothing store or tanning salon at age 28, and the educated/career-minded girls are all ugly.

 

It just seems the smart, sexy, beautiful women saw past their games and won't take them seriously. Some of these women are married off already, others simply see these guys as a joke, and want the tall, handsome, successful man who has a "nice guy" side without being a doormat.

 

As for the women, bad decisions end up biting them on the arse. I've seen many of the bad boy chasers end up older and still chasing, believing they will never "settle" for anything other than a "reformed bad boy"...meaning the guy with the "bad boy edge" who will commit.

 

Others I see mostly become "never married" single moms. They got preggers by their bad boy, he ran or simply stated he won't commit to her, and thus she's in the life she's made. Some women, single mom or not, end up also as psychological messes from years of chasing one jerk after the next, and thus have loads of baggage from those experiences.

 

I dunno if I call this "karma" as much as "reality". It's about consequences. The women simply messed up their lives, and the men spent so long playing and toying with women that they lost whatever tiny amount of respect they might have had. So some might have thought they'll have fun now and then find a "better" woman to marry later...but instead they grew to simply hate women in general, believing them all to be "lesser beings".

[Elysian Powder]

Haven't noticed any change in the bad boys who've aged by now. Lots and lots of fun, vast amounts of money, a lot of travel, no obligations, and no one to put up with.

 

Can't say the same about the decent guys.

 

 

Karma is a myth.

[Llakdknek]

Yeah, Karma is a myth.

 

Actions and consequences, on the other hand...

[aj22one]

Man, I see a lot of "decent" guys end up settling for whatever woman would have them, usually single mothers looking for someone to help them raise their kids. Most of these guys end up miserable and the women just end up cheating on them or it's a sexless marriage.

[Elysian Powder]

Man, I see a lot of "decent" guys end up settling for whatever woman would have them, usually single mothers looking for someone to help them raise their kids. Most of these guys end up miserable and the women just end up cheating on them or it's a sexless marriage.

 

Don't forget about the alimony guys have to pay because the good girl they married now wants some bad boy salami; nothing like going to war and returning with all of your belongings in the street.

 

Have you ever met a King of a man, with perfect values and conduct towards himself, his good woman, and his children?

 

I have met such a man. He's living across his house of so many decades, paying for the kids his wife will not allow to visit, and he's paying for the stuff she bought when she was in the '' I love you, but I don't love you anymore,'' stage of her life.

 

Then I look at these much older guys, still banging hot women due to their charm, looks, or money, and how they have everything nice without putting an effort into it, or paying for it.

 

Ya guys, being nice pays off. I'll stick with the ''low self-esteem'' 20-something hotties.

 

Some guy will pay the bill. Thanks, bro. Someone has to cover up with $ for all the free ''low quality poon'' that I get.

[grkBoy]

Man, I see a lot of "decent" guys end up settling for whatever woman would have them, usually single mothers looking for someone to help them raise their kids. Most of these guys end up miserable and the women just end up cheating on them or it's a sexless marriage.

 

Yeah, but I blame the guys in this case. This goes back to when I tell "nice guys" they should learn to love themselves and be able to die alone before settling for someone they know isn't good for them.

 

I've had several women who rejected me in the past supposedly "come around"...they came around with a baby stroller and claim how "stupid" they were and just want a "good man". I rejected them all, not out of some "revenge" thing, but mainly because I could see right through them that I was a last resort choice for them. Too many others still are so desperate to have a woman that they'll gladly take on this problem.

 

There is a big difference though between that scenario and when you meet a single mom whom you had no past with. I've known attractive single moms who just married a guy who seemed right at the time, but he cheated and became a monster. Do we paint these women as the same women who banged every jerk they met and ended up knocked up?

 

I wouldn't.

 

If you're smart about yourself and do not let lust cloud good judgement, you'll easily the good women versus the women who are looking for a meal ticket. You'll see if the woman in question really loves and desires you, or just sees you as a house and food while she dreams of sex with her bad boys.

 

My fiance used to be married to a guy who manipulated her, used her, cheated on her, and dumped her for someone else. Do I now paint her as no better than those other women? No...because I can clearly see my fiance loves me and only me. She's not carrying a torch for her ex, not dreaming of some unrealistic standard, and will do anything for me.

 

Some of you might then say "so you think..." or "so she says...", thinking in terms of a logic that you can't trust any woman out there. If you are that full of mistrust, then you've pretty much become the female-hating older bad boys I described in my first reply. If you hate and mistrust women that much, then stop dealing with them...because you sound exactly like the "older bad boys" I spoke of.

[Elysian Powder]

Some of you might then say "so you think..." or "so she says...", thinking in terms of a logic that you can't trust any woman out there. If you are that full of mistrust, then you've pretty much become the female-hating older bad boys I described in my first reply. If you hate and mistrust women that much, then stop dealing with them...because you sound exactly like the "older bad boys" I spoke of.

 

Yeah, yeah, I'm going to overlook the shaming language and your wishful thinking and ask you about those gals/guys with whom you can be more than compatible, are good people, but change over time, or now want some bad girl poon or bad boy salami?

 

What then?

[fortyninethousand322]

 

I've had several women who rejected me in the past supposedly "come around"...they came around with a baby stroller and claim how "stupid" they were and just want a "good man". I rejected them all, not out of some "revenge" thing, but mainly because I could see right through them that I was a last resort choice for them. Too many others still are so desperate to have a woman that they'll gladly take on this problem.

 

There is a big difference though between that scenario and when you meet a single mom whom you had no past with. I've known attractive single moms who just married a guy who seemed right at the time, but he cheated and became a monster. Do we paint these women as the same women who banged every jerk they met and ended up knocked up?

 

I wouldn't.

 

If you're smart about yourself and do not let lust cloud good judgement, you'll easily the good women versus the women who are looking for a meal ticket. You'll see if the woman in question really loves and desires you, or just sees you as a house and food while she dreams of sex with her bad boys.

 

My fiance used to be married to a guy who manipulated her, used her, cheated on her, and dumped her for someone else. Do I now paint her as no better than those other women? No...because I can clearly see my fiance loves me and only me. She's not carrying a torch for her ex, not dreaming of some unrealistic standard, and will do anything for me.

 

Some of you might then say "so you think..." or "so she says...", thinking in terms of a logic that you can't trust any woman out there. If you are that full of mistrust, then you've pretty much become the female-hating older bad boys I described in my first reply. If you hate and mistrust women that much, then stop dealing with them...because you sound exactly like the "older bad boys" I spoke of.

 

I'm of two minds on this. On the one hand, I might actually be desperate enough to date the women looking for a meal ticket because at least in that scenario I could say that I at least had a girl at some point in my life. Even if it was under dubious circumstances.

 

But, I could also see where I could turn into that bitter guy that spurns all overtures from women out of mistrust or "revenge" feelings. I mean isn't it fair to have the tables turned for once?

[Elysian Powder]

Look, sex is great, but having money in your bank account is far more pleasant.

 

Don't mess with the obvious gold-diggers. Learn how to get free sex, then move on from there.