xxoo Posted August 29, 2011 Posted August 29, 2011 Yeah, I never understood the appeal of a STRAIGHT woman having an affinity for gay men or gay men related events (like bars and clubs) I personally find it not normal and disturbing on their part. And also, what's the deal with STRAIGHT women experimenting in "summer camp" trying to make out with each other? Also, those all female gyms? What's up with that? I think it's practically one of the 4 Horsemen of the apocalypse. LOL Straight women go to gay bars so they can dance to great music, surrounded by beautiful men, without being approached by men wanting to hit on them. It's awesome
Citizen Erased Posted August 29, 2011 Posted August 29, 2011 Straight women go to gay bars so they can dance to great music, surrounded by beautiful men, without being approached by men wanting to hit on them. It's awesome Or, as the HIMYM episode so ended, they end up sick of the inattention and skip off to the nearest sports bar to be hit on, tralalalala.
AlexDP Posted August 29, 2011 Posted August 29, 2011 There's this great episode of How I Met Your Mother in which the two women of the group, Robin and Lily, are complaining about how men are constantly hitting on them. Ted and Marshall call them out on this... "I'm a pretty girl, and guys everywhere want to buy me drinks and sleep with me, wah." A little while later in the episode, the group goes into a gay bar. Lily and Robin are overjoyed... men complimenting them on their sweaters actually like their sweaters, not their sweater-puppies. Ted and Marshall are thrilled, as gay men check them out and buy them yummy fruity drinks that they can drink without feeling emasculated. After a while, however, Marshall and Ted find the situation a little less appealing. Marshall: "Hello, it's like my eyes are up here." Ted: "It's always the ugly guys too, what a DRAG." Gay Guy: "MMM, look at me in the middle of a delicious sandwich!" Marshall: "Hey we're kind of in the middle of a discussion, do you mind?" Gay Guy: "I know what I want to be in the middle of!" ... Long story short, you want to know why women don't always appreciate being treated like a piece of meat, go into a gay bar. Yeah, you're not attracted to them-that's the point. Women aren't always in the mood of be someone's spank monkey... it can be exhausting. Men's sexuality can be overwhelming and, at times, all encompassing. I think women often feel like a guy is hitting on them not because the guy thinks they're hot but because the guy is just so desperate for SEX, SEX, MUST HAVE SEX. It's impersonal and it's a bit threatening, because you're never sure if your message of "No" will get through to the kind of guy that's hitting on you so hardcore. It's simply put not true. Women love being looked at like a piece of meat. But not ALL THE TIME. If no one ever looked at a girl that way, she'd feel less feminine and trust me, it would eat away her self esteem. As with many topics though, a lot of women want to have their cake and eat it too. If you're attractive to be looked at like a piece of meat by a goodlooking guy, a badlooking guy will do the same. Women who complain about this should just grow up FFS.
zengirl Posted August 29, 2011 Posted August 29, 2011 It's simply put not true. Women love being looked at like a piece of meat. But not ALL THE TIME. If no one ever looked at a girl that way, she'd feel less feminine and trust me, it would eat away her self esteem. As with many topics though, a lot of women want to have their cake and eat it too. If you're attractive to be looked at like a piece of meat by a goodlooking guy, a badlooking guy will do the same. Women who complain about this should just grow up FFS. I don't know about that. When a man objectifies me, I pretty much always find it disgusting. Does that mean I want no sexual attention from men? Absolutely, I do! But from men who know me, are dating me, are in a relationship with me, find me sexy inside and out. It's not about how good or bad looking he is (though if he's constantly hitting on me, even after knowing me, and I'm not interested. . . that's awkward). I also don't think checking me out is insulting or complimenting me is insulting, if done tastefully, whether the guy is attractive or not. But treating me like a piece of meat -- a sex or beauty object that is just in the world to look good or be objectified. . . that's gross. So, I think it's more about the treatment itself than the attractiveness of the man. Attractive men have approached me in a way that made them suddenly ugly and disgusting to me, and that would be the "piece of meat" treatment.
xxoo Posted August 29, 2011 Posted August 29, 2011 I also don't think checking me out is insulting or complimenting me is insulting, if done tastefully, whether the guy is attractive or not. But treating me like a piece of meat -- a sex or beauty object that is just in the world to look good or be objectified. . . that's gross. Yes, there's charming and flattering....and then there is gross. And isn't dependent on the physical appearance of the man. For the women's part, it is also possible to present your sexuality in a "gross" manner. There is a sexy and classy....and then there is gross.
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