Author USMCHokie Posted August 28, 2011 Author Posted August 28, 2011 I don't get you Hokie, why do you want something superficial so badly? At least that's what I've been distilling from your posts. Why not just get a girlfriend that you find attractive and have a meaningful relationship? In my opinion that's a lot more appealing than f*cking some random sl*t that sees you as a piece of meat. Obviously you want to bang, but you can do that with a girlfriend, so what gives? Hmmm, to be perfectly honest...? Because it's the superficial qualities that I feel I'm lacking...I am willing to admit that I've got the "non-superficial" qualities going for me, but in my geographical area and my age range (I'm 27), it's the superficial that seems to matter to get a girl's initial interest...so if I can get past the superficial and a girl is willing to give me a chance to see the non-superficial, then I feel I could make her a happy girl... So I guess I'm looking for something superficial just to convince myself that I can meet a girl's superficial requirements...and I'm leaving for the west coast in a few months anyway...
Author USMCHokie Posted August 28, 2011 Author Posted August 28, 2011 Being treated like a piece of meat isn't that bad. At least they're being honest:laugh: It's the ones with ulterior motives you gotta worry about. It's like if a woman tells me "Hey MrNate, that's a tight ass. Keep up the good work, boy." At least they're being honest:laugh: Now if one says "Hey MrNate, your personality is just sooo charming.." Then I might be a bit apprehensive. Sup Nate, been a while. How are things? The personality comment seems very ingenuine and certainly would have my spidey sense tingling...
Author USMCHokie Posted August 28, 2011 Author Posted August 28, 2011 Does "no" really mean "no"? Of course it does, and an attractive creep is just as creepy as an unattractive creep. If a hot girl walked up to a guy and offered to have sex with him, he would feel flattered. If a hot guy walked up to a girl and offered to have sex with her, she would feel threatened. Do you see the difference? A man looking at a woman like a piece of meat is offensive, but it's also frightening. Whether he's attractive or not makes no difference. If a man looks at me that way, it makes me afraid and I would start looking for the nearest exit. Men don't experience that fear in their interactions with women. Got it...there is a certain level of creepiness that would completely negate attractiveness, but what about certain acts that are less creepy that an attractive guy could get away with that women would eat up...? E.g., physical compliments.
Author USMCHokie Posted August 28, 2011 Author Posted August 28, 2011 I've been super. Life is good man. Moving to the west coast eh?? I'm kinda jealous, haha. Yea man, I can't wait...I've never lived out west... Plus, I figure the superficial is much more prevalent in Cali anyway, so chances are man, you'll be recognized for the superficial qualities you feel you may lack. Damn, I hope this makes sense. This legitimately scares me...I thought it was bad in the DC area...and it's going to be worse in California...? Dear god, help me...
Cypress25 Posted August 28, 2011 Posted August 28, 2011 OMG someone from DC! Look, I have an article for you: http://www.2birds1blog.com/2009/02/6-reasons-you-should-want-to-live-in-dc.html
Author USMCHokie Posted August 28, 2011 Author Posted August 28, 2011 OMG someone from DC! Look, I have an article for you: http://www.2birds1blog.com/2009/02/6-reasons-you-should-want-to-live-in-dc.html HAHAHAHAH. And I have an article for you: http://www.rooshv.com/15-reasons-why-washington-dc-sucks-for-guys
Beachgirl8 Posted August 28, 2011 Posted August 28, 2011 The opposite of a woman being treated like a piece of meat, is a man being used for his money. Most healthy people don't just want to be used for their bodies or their money. While some men will make cute little comments about wanting to treated like a piece of meat, you will never hear these same men make cute little comments about desiring being treated like a money machine. exactly. ..........
allina Posted August 28, 2011 Posted August 28, 2011 Pshh, I'll totally look at you like you're a piece of meat, especially if you still have those pics in your profile EDIT- nope they're gone, what's this wearing clothes business? Lame.
Author USMCHokie Posted August 28, 2011 Author Posted August 28, 2011 Pshh, I'll totally look at you like you're a piece of meat, especially if you still have those pics in your profile EDIT- nope they're gone, what's this wearing clothes business? Lame. Hahah, those pics are never making their way back to LS...
allina Posted August 28, 2011 Posted August 28, 2011 Hahah, those pics are never making their way back to LS... Bummer. But there ya go, the answer to your OP.
Author USMCHokie Posted August 28, 2011 Author Posted August 28, 2011 Bummer. But there ya go, the answer to your OP. Touché.....
Author USMCHokie Posted August 28, 2011 Author Posted August 28, 2011 Be grateful you get comments like this, Hokie....you're smart too and nothing in life should be stopping you. I'd trade in a heartbeat. They're just comments though. As much as I do appreciate them, phineas said in an earlier post, they're just comments, nothing more.
BetheButterfly Posted August 28, 2011 Posted August 28, 2011 (edited) ...? I think that would be cool...but as seen in another thread, why are women so offended by it...? Many women see life as an experience that holds family and friends dear and enemies as not dear. They do not see people as a "piece of meat" but rather as someone with a potential to love and enjoy life with, or not. A piece of meat is a very uncaring, unloving, and unemotional way to look at another human being. Most women, I think, are more "evolved" then men who consider women to be a "piece of meat, or ass" However, some women are regressing into let's have sex with everybody stage. What's the world coming to? Thankfully, there are some men who do not view (or who work hard at not viewing) women as a piece of flesh, but rather as a whole person worthy of respect. Edited August 28, 2011 by BetheButterfly
dasein Posted August 28, 2011 Posted August 28, 2011 There is nothing disrespectful about being sexually attracted to someone and showing it in a polite way. That's how most relationships form, regardless of what people say. OP to be viewed in a more visceral way by women, you have to crack into a group of them via good sex with one of them and play it cool. Next thing you know the others in the group will be viewing you more sexually from the get-go.
EasyHeart Posted August 28, 2011 Posted August 28, 2011 Consider yourself fortunate. Just once I would like to meet a woman who treats me like a human being with thoughts and feelings and not just a walking sex machine. Just once.
Author USMCHokie Posted August 28, 2011 Author Posted August 28, 2011 Consider yourself fortunate. Just once I would like to meet a woman who treats me like a human being with thoughts and feelings and not just a walking sex machine. Just once. I know what you're saying, but more often than not, women in my age demographic don't want to have sex with human beings with thoughts and feelings...they look for the walking sex machines and then see if they have thoughts and feelings after they've sexed them...
Content Posted August 28, 2011 Posted August 28, 2011 I think the op is saying a girl kinda has to look at you that way to get your foot in the door for a relationship
SWAN808 Posted August 28, 2011 Posted August 28, 2011 being a decent looking guy - it actually annoys me when people overstate my looks because its merely a fraction of who I am. Its boring to be honest. The physical side of a relationship for me is merely a threshold - once it is crossed and that box is checked (admittedly a fun process) - the real stuff begins and the epic side of love can be revealed... pure sex on its own is initially fun but ultimately shallow and meaningless. a piece of meat is inanimate - lifeless.
Content Posted August 28, 2011 Posted August 28, 2011 being a decent looking guy - it actually annoys me when people overstate my looks because its merely a fraction of who I am. Its boring to be honest. The physical side of a relationship for me is merely a threshold - once it is crossed and that box is checked (admittedly a fun process) - the real stuff begins and the epic side of love can be revealed... pure sex on its own is initially fun but ultimately shallow and meaningless. a piece of meat is inanimate - lifeless. Of course but looks is the first thing people notice..You need more then that ot sustain a relationship but beign attractive is what gets your foot in the door for the oppoaite sex to want to know more about you..
threebyfate Posted August 28, 2011 Posted August 28, 2011 (edited) But do women really hate being treated that way...? Or does it depend on the guy treating them like that? I.e., if the guy was uber hot, would women eat the creepiness up? Especially those women who post the bikini and cleavage shots all over their online dating profiles and then go on to complain in their profile that they are sick of men only after one thing...it's mind boggling...You're looking at this in a polarizing way. Attraction includes the physical but that's not all there should be, when considering the intellectual and emotional elements of it. One thing I've learned in painful ways, is that if someone values you physically, head and shoulders above all other traits, you're not being valued at all. As for women who publicly post bikini and cleavage shots and then complain about men looking for one thing, there are usually more emotional problems than hypocrisy. Edited August 28, 2011 by threebyfate
Zaphod B Posted August 28, 2011 Posted August 28, 2011 Someone mentioned "how I met your mother". I bet if it were women rather than gay men who hit on the two male characters, they would have loved it.
AHardDaysNight Posted August 28, 2011 Posted August 28, 2011 If you're advocating cannibalism, don't expect me to go along with it.
irc333 Posted August 28, 2011 Posted August 28, 2011 Long story short, you want to know why women don't always appreciate being treated like a piece of meat, go into a gay bar. Yeah, I never understood the appeal of a STRAIGHT woman having an affinity for gay men or gay men related events (like bars and clubs) I personally find it not normal and disturbing on their part. And also, what's the deal with STRAIGHT women experimenting in "summer camp" trying to make out with each other? Also, those all female gyms? What's up with that? I think it's practically one of the 4 Horsemen of the apocalypse. LOL
zengirl Posted August 29, 2011 Posted August 29, 2011 I thought of the HIMYM episode too. I love that show (well, the good years). Like that show, I don't think it's necessarily a gender issue, except men don't experience being treated like a piece of meat repeatedly, and thus don't realize they have the aversion to it. Not everyone does, male or female, or we wouldn't have shows like Jersey Shore and the like. I'd say in my generation, there are men and women who actively encourage the world to treat them "like a piece of meat" and men and women who would be off-put by it. And definitely men and probably women who think they'd like it, if it happened, or if it was the "right" group doing it, but never get the chance to really find out how they feel one way or the other. Why do I hate it, personally? Well, I think that's twofold. One: it's just annoying, akin to cold-calls from a door-to-door salesman. I could be anyone, or anyone who fits certain parameters, and thus the level of discussion or discourse is pointless and tedious. Two: to me, on a personal level, it's insulting to my personhood, my unique and individual experience of this world, and insulting to the personhood of the other person who thinks I'm meat. Treating someone as though the exterior of their current body is somehow a true correlation to who they are is simply bizarre and offensive to me. But I think two is a much more personal thing, to me, and one is closer to the more universal reasons people often dislike it. I know what you're saying, but more often than not, women in my age demographic don't want to have sex with human beings with thoughts and feelings...they look for the walking sex machines and then see if they have thoughts and feelings after they've sexed them... You're looking at the wrong women. There are plenty in your age group that want people with thoughts and feelings.
Taramere Posted August 29, 2011 Posted August 29, 2011 ...? I think that would be cool...but as seen in another thread, why are women so offended by it...? Think about how many women are addicted to shopping. To being consumers. Do you think that the endless visits to the beauty salon, to the shoe shops and to ebay are really just about finding ways to become more pretty and marketable to men? Or is it possible that women have such a thing about shopping out of a desire to be consumers...rather than that which is consumed? That we associate the act of consuming with power? It's always interesting to see posts where men talk about wanting to be "the prize". The piece of meat that is lusted after. The consumed, rather than the consumer. I suspect most would tire of the feeling very quickly, or else they too might become shopping addicts in an attempt to counter the demeaning sense of being the product rather than the consumer. I think some men are already there.
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