LoveandSuch Posted August 25, 2011 Posted August 25, 2011 It has been as the title declared, "Week of the Womanizers." It seems like I attract these characters. Not your average day PUAs, but full blown Womanizers. I say this because they are extremely successful, charming, and love women. One who has flirted heavily before, has been re energized currently toward me, so obvious, not even hiding the smiles, come hither looks, and so on. I do give him credit, he has incredible charm, a million dollar smile, that I am sure many young hot females have fallen for previously and currently. I wonder how watt'd that smile is toward the women he has already been with and dumped. Or how much of that smile he shares with his wife, or does she get the other side of that smile. I am pretty much a dork when it comes to these occurrences, and you cannot help but look, when someone is behaving that way, and then every time you look, they look, and they think because you looked and are polite, that you want them, and then they keep looking, and then I do not, because it is getting out of hand at that point. I have decency and while it nice to get attention, it is not something I crave and must have. I can see how women who crave attention, money, etc., could fall for this charm easily. What I do not understand is why the women who do fall for this think they are special, that he is only into them (this is how he behaves when doing this). He has to be doing this with others who are his type. I have heard through the grapevine that I am that type. So beware. There were a few others this week, but not AS obvious. Maybe he would make a good button to mess with, but why play with fire. Right?
Feelsgoodman Posted August 25, 2011 Posted August 25, 2011 Guys that are good looking, charming, rich, have a "million dollar smile", etc. are few and far in between. Most women subconsciously realize that they would never be able to net a guy like that. Yet, they still want a bite...even though they know they can't have the entire meal. In other words, most women that supposedly get "seduced" by "womanizers" are not really the innocent victims they claim to be.
Woggle Posted August 25, 2011 Posted August 25, 2011 Guys that are good looking, charming, rich, have a "million dollar smile", etc. are few and far in between. Most women subconsciously realize that they would never be able to net a guy like that. Yet, they still want a bite...even though they know they can't have the entire meal. In other words, most women that supposedly get "seduced" by "womanizers" are not really the innocent victims they claim to be. Exactly. Most are willing participants.
Author LoveandSuch Posted August 25, 2011 Author Posted August 25, 2011 So you believe these women are after something that they have always craved, and since it is far few in between, they go for it, because it is a rare opportunity. Makes sense. I happen to be extremely reserved to it, when it happens, it happens quite frequently, so it does not seem far in between to me.
D-Lish Posted August 25, 2011 Posted August 25, 2011 Any man that has all the right things to say, and is overly skilled at an approach is a guy that I avoid at all costs. I won't even engage them. They are so transparent.
Feelsgoodman Posted August 25, 2011 Posted August 25, 2011 So you believe these women are after something that they have always craved, and since it is far few in between, they go for it, because it is a rare opportunity. No, what I mean is that they go for it with the full knowledge of what they are getting themselves into (a short-term fling and nothing more). Most women are not dumb. They know that a guy who is hot, rich, charming and social has lots of women interested in him. Women also know that if a guy like doesn't get snapped up at an early age, it's because he's not interested in a long-term relationship.
D-Lish Posted August 25, 2011 Posted August 25, 2011 No, what I mean is that they go for it with the full knowledge of what they are getting themselves into (a short-term fling and nothing more). Most women are not dumb. They know that a guy who is hot, rich, charming and social has lots of women interested in him. Women also know that if a guy like doesn't get snapped up at an early age, it's because he's not interested in a long-term relationship. Yep, when a guy is really good at making the approach, you know he's done it a thousand times before and that is immediately off-putting. I supervise so many young girls, and I am constantly in shock at the red flags they are too naive to ignore- not to mention the bad treatment they accept.
Author LoveandSuch Posted August 25, 2011 Author Posted August 25, 2011 I do not put up with crappy behavior. I have thought of possibly making him a friend, but his interest has been awhile, and you never really know people, their intensity levels, and if he fell obssessed over me, that would not be good. I have that intuition and vibe. Wierd, I know.
grkBoy Posted August 25, 2011 Posted August 25, 2011 What I do not understand is why the women who do fall for this think they are special, that he is only into them (this is how he behaves when doing this). He has to be doing this with others who are his type. I have heard through the grapevine that I am that type. So beware. Low self-esteem combined with too much influence from chick flicks, celebrity mags, and romance novels. These women often base their own sense of self-value on what guy they have, and thus they see these guys as prime real estate while the millions of average joes who would commit are seen as "ok" or "bland". These women have it ingrained into their skulls the dream of a hot/wealthy/exciting husband giving them a fantasy life they only see in fiction. Also many of these women often think because they are good looking and would be "loyal" that they think it's enough...yet too often these women work crappy jobs and can't survive on their own. They planned out their lives DEPENDING on one of these such men. I knew one who couldn't afford to live on her own, but wanted a hot guy who could afford them a luxury condo downtown and all she would have to do in life is raise the kids. On top of that, these women do like what I said men do as well...they let lust cloud good judgement. So you have Mr tall, dark, and exciting able to buy top shelf booze and he drives an expensive foreign car. He's got women all hot for him and thus she finds him more alluring than the 100 average guys who tried to talk to her. She knows the guy is a playa, but she wants to keep hoping she's so "special" that he'll see her as more than just a lay. Seen guys do this too. Hot girls who are absolute horrible people, but guys pander to them like crazy because they want the dream of a trophy. It's hard to spot guys with charm versus the guys who are playas or PUAs. The only thing women need to do is not put out so easily. Many of these low self-esteem girls will sleep with the guy quickly and hope this will "entice" him to stay. Never happen. Don't put out easily, and really try to look into what he wants in life. That's about the best one can do...and have the strength to walk away when it goes bad. I think the big mistakes most women make isn't that they met a playa or got fooled by one, but they keep FORGIVING his bad behavior and give him 1000 more chances to do better in the hopes he might break down and commit. It used to be these guys committed when they accidentally knocked up a girl, but even now many of these guys abandon the girls. They usually have way too many options available to them, and that's one thing women should look out for. If he can get laid by hot women every week, why would he give that up? Forget love and the fairy stuff women believe. If he wanted a wife or girlfriend, he would have one...not be single for life and banging every girl who spreads her legs for him.
Author LoveandSuch Posted August 25, 2011 Author Posted August 25, 2011 So true! It shocks me however, that these girls do not have any skills of sorting all these factors in their head, and weighing these issues beforehand. But, it does not shock me, because of all my observations of these type of women. I come across them all the time. It is amazing how much of their insecurity is on showcase. I have been humored at how an insecure girl will try to prove themselves to me, about how many guys want them, hit on them, but it seems to be almost imaginative or overblown, and I am thinking or more annoyed because I am wishing at this point they would quit talking, lol, but what is the point of this, what are they trying to prove to me, it seems desperate. Also when women around you get all weird and start pushing their butt out or other abvious wierd stance like trying to prove to me they are desirable, and all I am thinking is not. Insecurity is apparent and I am sure these guys can use this to full advantage. I cannot remember anytime I have asked a guy if he liked me, does he think I am pretty, or any of these needy questions. It is something or a thought that is never in my foremind, or a thought needing an answer to. If a man said so I would be flattered, but it is not necessary, I can find something else to fill my mind.
grkBoy Posted August 25, 2011 Posted August 25, 2011 Again, for most of them, they let lust and emotion guide them more than logic. Guys do this too. It's actually funny how most of the very "good looking" people I've encountered are also the most insecure and suffer from self-esteem issues.
Author LoveandSuch Posted August 25, 2011 Author Posted August 25, 2011 Again, for most of them, they let lust and emotion guide them more than logic. Guys do this too. It's actually funny how most of the very "good looking" people I've encountered are also the most insecure and suffer from self-esteem issues. It is actually not so cut and dry. There are a lot of attractive people, the ones who are insecure you may notice more, than the ones who are not because all their insecurities are on full display and apparent. Usually these types have zero personality and are blah or too desperate in their attention seeking. An important point to make is just because a person is attractive, does not mean they are an, "It," girl. The It girl is the one who stands out, is unique, and completely different than you average nice looking person. Many good looking people just blend in to other good looking people. The, "It," factor makes a HUGE difference!
grkBoy Posted August 25, 2011 Posted August 25, 2011 It is actually not so cut and dry. There are a lot of attractive people, the ones who are insecure you may notice more, than the ones who are not because all their insecurities are on full display and apparent. Usually these types have zero personality and are blah or too desperate in their attention seeking. An important point to make is just because a person is attractive, does not mean they are an, "It," girl. The It girl is the one who stands out, is unique, and completely different than you average nice looking person. Many good looking people just blend in to other good looking people. The, "It," factor makes a HUGE difference! I agree...you just said it better.
Author LoveandSuch Posted August 25, 2011 Author Posted August 25, 2011 You also mentioned controlling emotion and control. If someone cannot get a hold of and control their emotions or just control themselves, huge red flag. You cannot make these excuses, having control is extremely important in not allowing yourself to be led on, used, or end up in a dysfunctional relationship. The red flags being this type of personality is going to cause unnecessary drama and psycho factors, jealousy, self esteem, and so on. Not very attractive.
Professor X Posted August 25, 2011 Posted August 25, 2011 You also mentioned controlling emotion and control. If someone cannot get a hold of and control their emotions or just control themselves, huge red flag. You cannot make these excuses, having control is extremely important in not allowing yourself to be led on, used, or end up in a dysfunctional relationship. The red flags being this type of personality is going to cause unnecessary drama and psycho factors, jealousy, self esteem, and so on. Not very attractive. I wouldn't say the inability to control your own emotions is a red flag, not at all. You need some degree of self control, yes, but not absolute one. It's the thing that makes us human, after all; You can't expect everyone to behave like robots, now can you? You yourself is a fine example, you come here, you show your emotions, you're sad or happy, bitter or sweet and it's perfectly normal! Even cute I daresay. However, if you are referring to the extreme example, drama queens, psychos, etc, than of course it's bad, every extreme is.
oaks Posted August 25, 2011 Posted August 25, 2011 Any man that has all the right things to say, and is overly skilled at an approach is a guy that I avoid at all costs. I won't even engage them. That's like being turned down for a job for being over-qualified! They are so transparent. But what if he really liked you?
iJester Posted August 25, 2011 Posted August 25, 2011 It's all about figuring out what they want, then giving it to them, or at least bluffing like you will. I'm no PUA, so I don't have an "approach". I have knowledge across a wide range of subjects, so I just talk to girls, and more importantly..listen. Don't be sexually forward initially, and they'll come to you. I've gotten so many girls just by spending time with, and listening to them. The office is a fantastic place for this. I'm young, decent looking, and they obviously know I have a good career and we just sit there and talk on IM all day. Then after a few days of that, see if they want to go to happy hour, and it's on. Once you're done, you can move on to someone in the same building, because they usually don't want anyone to know if it was just a short fling.
Author LoveandSuch Posted August 25, 2011 Author Posted August 25, 2011 I wouldn't say the inability to control your own emotions is a red flag, not at all. You need some degree of self control, yes, but not absolute one. It's the thing that makes us human, after all; You can't expect everyone to behave like robots, now can you? You yourself is a fine example, you come here, you show your emotions, you're sad or happy, bitter or sweet and it's perfectly normal! Even cute I daresay. However, if you are referring to the extreme example, drama queens, psychos, etc, than of course it's bad, every extreme is. Awwwwww Professor x, you are so sweet:p Emotions are healthy, what I mean is you should be able to handle your emotions when entering relationships, and keep a realistic aspect and good grip, a handle on things. I believe the only healthy thinking if dipping in waters of a womanizer is, okay, let's play a little, I am up to bat, and be prepared for the left handed curve balls that will surely come your way. It is funny, how these players get played, they usually end up with psychos and manipulative liars. I know of one recently is dating a girl who pretends and plays innocent, but was known back in the day, completely different scene/group, as a slutty hag that had been around the block or you could just say up and down parkways. It was so bad if word came in she was coming to a party, men would leave and go out to a bar or somewhere else, they were like oh ****, got to get away:laugh: But she is an angel now:confused: But back to emotions there are emotions and then there is EMOTIONAL, lol. And to your...cute, yeah, lol, but not when it is side splitting and my only thoughts are heavily weighing just going to the garage, starting my engine, starting the engine, and lying the seat back, and relaxing to some awesome tunes....that is downright scary! But the safe part, is usually the mind will backpedal those thoughts and proper senses restore, thank god!
Author LoveandSuch Posted August 25, 2011 Author Posted August 25, 2011 It's all about figuring out what they want, then giving it to them, or at least bluffing like you will. I'm no PUA, so I don't have an "approach". I have knowledge across a wide range of subjects, so I just talk to girls, and more importantly..listen. Don't be sexually forward initially, and they'll come to you. I've gotten so many girls just by spending time with, and listening to them. The office is a fantastic place for this. I'm young, decent looking, and they obviously know I have a good career and we just sit there and talk on IM all day. Then after a few days of that, see if they want to go to happy hour, and it's on. Once you're done, you can move on to someone in the same building, because they usually don't want anyone to know if it was just a short fling. All have different approaches, you just use psychological games as your tool. You are listening to them, spending a little time on them..and then la dee da da...happy hour time, then woops how did your johnson slip in my piehole? How did that happen?!!! A few days of talking would never cut it for me. But, then again, I do not just sleep around.
Professor X Posted August 25, 2011 Posted August 25, 2011 And to your...cute, yeah, lol, but not when it is side splitting and my only thoughts are heavily weighing just going to the garage, starting my engine, starting the engine, and lying the seat back, and relaxing to some awesome tunes....that is downright scary! But the safe part, is usually the mind will backpedal those thoughts and proper senses restore, thank god! Oh, I hope it's not what I think it is! Anyway, we both know time is the best healer, so keep it strong Things will get better, I promise
Author LoveandSuch Posted August 25, 2011 Author Posted August 25, 2011 Oh, I hope it's not what I think it is! Anyway, we both know time is the best healer, so keep it strong Things will get better, I promise What are the responses that men are looking for when they come on strong from a distance? I am curious. Do they wish for you to wink and lick your lips?! How would a loose girl act that would fall for this? Actually, I would love to come up with a little script for when this happens again, to shock the person, make it funny!
thatone Posted August 26, 2011 Posted August 26, 2011 No, what I mean is that they go for it with the full knowledge of what they are getting themselves into (a short-term fling and nothing more). Most women are not dumb. They know that a guy who is hot, rich, charming and social has lots of women interested in him. Women also know that if a guy like doesn't get snapped up at an early age, it's because he's not interested in a long-term relationship. i disagree. a lot of the young ones don't know any better. their parents have been telling them that they're perfect all their lives so it's a rational thought for them to assume that what they see as a perfect man will be attracted to them. but they fail to grasp that they have nothing to offer such a man that his other options lack, so they wind up being a hair above a booty call, and persist with the fantasy that "he's good with me".
Professor X Posted August 26, 2011 Posted August 26, 2011 What are the responses that men are looking for when they come on strong from a distance? I am curious. Do they wish for you to wink and lick your lips?! How would a loose girl act that would fall for this? Actually, I would love to come up with a little script for when this happens again, to shock the person, make it funny! I think that the loose girl would smile and come up to them... I guess - and that is also what the guy who hits on you from distance wishes for. If you wanna be funny, you can always wink, lick your lips, give a bite and scratch your neck (in an erotic way) after If you find a victim, do tell how it went haha!
Author LoveandSuch Posted August 26, 2011 Author Posted August 26, 2011 I think that the loose girl would smile and come up to them... I guess - and that is also what the guy who hits on you from distance wishes for. If you wanna be funny, you can always wink, lick your lips, give a bite and scratch your neck (in an erotic way) after If you find a victim, do tell how it went haha! Nooooo! That would result in a sure bet he would be slipping the number, lol. Better, I wonder how funny it would be to go, in more of a silent way, point to myself, "Who me," and then look down at my ta tas, and grab them with both hands and manipulate em, juggle them up and down! Ha Ha Ha! That would make someone drop their coffee!
irc333 Posted August 26, 2011 Posted August 26, 2011 Yep, when a guy is really good at making the approach, you know he's done it a thousand times before and that is immediately off-putting. You know what's so funny about the silly advise given by people on here (esp men who think they know it all) is the fact that when a guy complains about how he didn't succeed in an approach to a woman. The first thing they say is, "It was in your approach, there was something you must've said that put them off." After what D-Lish said here, this just confirms that is complete BS. D-Lish is a woman who is actually turned OFF by a man that says all the "right things" So, THAT being said, I'll just keep doing what I'm doing. This more than likely would mean that me and D-lish would be more compatible. LOL I actually had gone out with a woman that told me she AVOIDS men she finds to be a hunk, and deliberately dates average looking guys because they've treated her with more respect than hunks. They are very few and far between, but I love it when they are into me though.
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