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nyc_guy2003 Established Member

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Nice strong man argument.

 

Nobody said having a belly is good but, being not having the proper amount of vitamins and energy stores isn't good either.

 

Sorry If I burst your bubble.

 

I'm pretty sure you've convinced no one, but if it makes you feel better about having a beer belly I'm not going to argue with you.

nyc_guy2003 Established Member

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I don't really care to convince anybody, if you or anybody wants to find out the truth they can do the research themselves. Yet as they say ignorance is bliss. You are just putting up a straw man argument.

 

Your body is actively putting you in a negative energy balance without much intervention on your part. IMO that is bad genetics.

 

BTW, I don't have a six pack nor a beer belly, just a happy healthy weight.

 

According to overweight people, the BMI is wrong. According to average looking people, looks don't matter. According to poor people, money isn't everything. According to lazy people, hard work is overrated. To each their own.

Dorie Established Member

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Still waiting for that picture, Flipper.

nyc_guy2003 Established Member

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If you want to know why what I am saying is true, do the research. If you want to remain ignorant, then ignorance is bliss.

 

I am not trying to insult you, I am just trying educate you.

 

*They more you know....* :laugh:

 

I tried to put "are 6-pack abs less healthy than a beer belly" into google but all I got was laughter when the search results came up.

nyc_guy2003 Established Member

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Does it suck getting laughed at?

 

:laugh:

 

If I made stupid claims like that then I would expect to be ridiculed.

Ruby Slippers Established Member

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I exercise regularly, but not obsessively, and have been steadily trimming down and toning up for the past year. I spend maybe an hour total directly on my abs every week, and I am already seeing the beginnings of a girl six-pack, which is a first for me in my whole life. I've always been pretty active, but have never targeted the abs like this until now.

 

So, with a reasonable amount of effort in exercise and nutrition, for the main purposes of being healthier and feeling better, and the side benefit of looking better, I am on my way to a subtle girl six-pack.

 

So I don't imagine it's hard for a guy to have a full-fledged six-pack without a ton of effort and time, given that they build muscle so easily.

 

In fact, I've been in relationships with guys with somewhat of a six-pack who hardly even tried, and did very little to target the abs specifically. They were active and fit through sports and hobbies, and never went to a gym.

 

And for the record, I think six-packs are sexy. :love:

nyc_guy2003 Established Member

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I exercise regularly, but not obsessively, and have been steadily trimming down and toning up for the past year. I spend maybe an hour total directly on my abs every week, and I am already seeing the beginnings of a girl six-pack, which is a first for me in my whole life. I've always been pretty active, but have never targeted the abs like this until now.

 

So, with a reasonable amount of effort in exercise and nutrition, for the main purposes of being healthier and feeling better, and the side benefit of looking better, I am on my way to a subtle girl six-pack.

 

So I don't imagine it's hard for a guy to have a full-fledged six-pack without a ton of effort and time, given that they build muscle so easily.

 

In fact, I've been in relationships with guys with somewhat of a six-pack who hardly even tried, and did very little to target the abs specifically. They were active and fit through sports and hobbies, and never went to a gym.

 

And for the record, I think six-packs are sexy. :love:

 

Call me crazy but I like this girl.

dasein Established Member

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I'm pretty sure you've convinced no one, but if it makes you feel better about having a beer belly I'm not going to argue with you.

 

Your mistake in logic is assuming that the poles of a healthy male physique are six pack v beer belly, when they are in fact, six pack v flat but undefined abdomen.

 

Men, unlike women, generally store any accumulated fat in the core. Women tend to store first fat in the butt, hips, thighs and arms moreso than men. A man can have 10% body fat or even less, be cut all over the rest of the body, and still show some fat in the core. PtP is correct in that for most men, a six pack is not natural, and for many, in the distant biological past where eating was not a three times a day ordered occurence, a six pack would be unhealthy.

 

For some few men, it's relatively easy to get a six pack, but this is the genetic exception, just as it's the exception for women to store fat in the abdomen before the ass.

OnyxSnowfall Established Member

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I personally don't like to see random guys, regardless of what their build is, walking around without shirts on. If they're in their home or someone else's and I'm a "guest"... I still don't like it, but it's not my abode... not going to make me desire them in the least, however.

 

I've something of a contradiction... I do like seeing my guy without his shirt on, anywhere. If we're jogging together, if he's sleeping... anywhere.

USMCHokie Established Member

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So I don't imagine it's hard for a guy to have a full-fledged six-pack without a ton of effort and time, given that they build muscle so easily.

 

In fact, I've been in relationships with guys with somewhat of a six-pack who hardly even tried, and did very little to target the abs specifically. They were active and fit through sports and hobbies, and never went to a gym.

 

And for the record, I think six-packs are sexy. :love:

 

I have to disagree. I call this phenomenon "skinny-ripped". It is more a product of low body fat than muscle mass and strength. From far away, they look jacked as all hell, but when you stand next to them, it becomes much more apparent how slender they are.

 

There is no substitute for doing work. But I've noticed that for the vast majority of females, being skinny-ripped for a guy is plenty for the average woman to be amazed.

zengirl Established Member

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I exercise regularly, but not obsessively, and have been steadily trimming down and toning up for the past year. I spend maybe an hour total directly on my abs every week, and I am already seeing the beginnings of a girl six-pack, which is a first for me in my whole life. I've always been pretty active, but have never targeted the abs like this until now.

 

So, with a reasonable amount of effort in exercise and nutrition, for the main purposes of being healthier and feeling better, and the side benefit of looking better, I am on my way to a subtle girl six-pack.

 

So I don't imagine it's hard for a guy to have a full-fledged six-pack without a ton of effort and time, given that they build muscle so easily.

 

In fact, I've been in relationships with guys with somewhat of a six-pack who hardly even tried, and did very little to target the abs specifically. They were active and fit through sports and hobbies, and never went to a gym.

 

And for the record, I think six-packs are sexy. :love:

 

You are putting energy towards it and specifically working that area, though, Ruby. And that's what I'd find unattractive in a mate. I don't specifically work muscles of my body for visual benefits or like men who do. (I'm not saying they're bad people; our values just wouldn't align.)

Memphis Raines Established Member

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To be very blunt: I am very proud of my upper body. I love all my muscles and how sexy they feel to me. I workout and I feel it is extremely attractive, I have super broad shoulders, chest, back, and arms and in very good proportion, round-type athletic muscles and nearly 200 pounds of solid muscle... but I also feel it's a healthy appreciation.

 

And I love not wearing a shirt, it just feels good. And I know girls love looking at my body, it's just positive energy.

 

So do you guys find it innapropiate for a guy like that to not wear a shirt in the summer a lot when doing something like hanging at his house and it's really hot, or just chilling outside with friends? I love not having my shirt off...

 

Is it a turn off or on when a guy does this for the simple healthy reason that it just "feels good" to him, not like he's showing off

 

 

 

Ladies I'll post a body shot if you reallly want me to lol just to see what im talking about

 

hey, I'm proud of my body too. I am more ripped at 40 than I was at 25. But there is a time and place to finally "show off". And just being in a causal social setting, unless you are at the beach or pool, having your shirt of just screams conceit and narcissism.

 

there are some women that would only care about superficial things and be turned on by you not wearing your shirt in an inappropriate setting, and some that would see it for what it is and be understandably turned off.

 

again, I'm damn proud of my body, but I'm not going to look like some conceited meathead either.

USMCHokie Established Member

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And just being in a causal social setting, unless you are at the beach or pool, having your shirt of just screams conceit and narcissism.

 

So what...? Why does it matter what people think of you? Unless you're looking to pick up with your shirtlessness, it doesn't really matter whether people perceive you to be conceited or narcissitic...whether you actually are or not...too many people seem to equate any semblance of a good physique with narcissism...is it because they dont understand...?

TuffCookieX Established Member

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I have to disagree. I call this phenomenon "skinny-ripped". It is more a product of low body fat than muscle mass and strength. From far away, they look jacked as all hell, but when you stand next to them, it becomes much more apparent how slender they are.

 

There is no substitute for doing work. But I've noticed that for the vast majority of females, being skinny-ripped for a guy is plenty for the average woman to be amazed.

 

I agree with this. Being lean is important to show the muscle but if you don't have enough protein or work out, it's just a product of being thin and not having any fat on your body. I would actually prefer a thicker guy with a good frame than a thin one with a six pack. Although lately I've been dating fitness models and guys who work out as their religion as that is my preference. My man should care for his body as much as I care about mine.

USMCHokie Established Member

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I agree with this. Being lean is important to show the muscle but if you don't have enough protein or work out, it's just a product of being thin and not having any fat on your body. I would actually prefer a thicker guy with a good frame than a thin one with a six pack. Although lately I've been dating fitness models and guys who work out as their religion as that is my preference. My man should care for his body as much as I care about mine.

 

This just goes to show my belief that those who possess a certain trait, skill, quality, ability, etc. are more likely to appreciate the same in others. Those who don't possess those traits, et. al., tend to see them negatively.

 

For example, I don't do politics, so I think people who are into politics are total douches.

Ruby Slippers Established Member

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You are putting energy towards it and specifically working that area, though, Ruby. And that's what I'd find unattractive in a mate. I don't specifically work muscles of my body for visual benefits or like men who do. (I'm not saying they're bad people; our values just wouldn't align.)

You are making the assumption that someone is doing it for "visual benefits". I can't deny that when I look in the mirror and see a little abs definition, it's a hot sight, and it's motivating. But that's not the reason I do it.

 

I do exercise to strengthen my core (abs and back) because it makes me feel good, because the core is the center of your body and all strength radiates from it. I get compliments all the time on my good posture, and that's at its best when my core is strong.

 

A strong, healthy body is an extremely important foundation for a good, healthy life. It makes no sense to me why you would rule someone out for investing some time into being fit and healthy.

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doing it for "visual benefits"

 

Having a strong core is not reflective of a "six-pack appearance".

You can be just as strong on the ab region but not have the six-pack look. A six-pack is strictly done for appearance and sex appeal not for health.

OnyxSnowfall Established Member

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You are putting energy towards it and specifically working that area, though, Ruby. And that's what I'd find unattractive in a mate. I don't specifically work muscles of my body for visual benefits or like men who do. (I'm not saying they're bad people; our values just wouldn't align.)

 

Can completely relate to this.

USMCHokie Established Member

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Having a strong core is not reflective of a "six-pack appearance".

You can be just as strong on the ab region but not have the six-pack look. A six-pack is strictly done for appearance and sex appeal not for health.

 

Correct. It's reflective of low body fat.

mr.dream merchant Established Member

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Women love that ****. I get play all day when my shirt is off. People will judge you, but man, who cares. At the end of the day, you'll be the guy swimming in cooch. And please, post a pic. I want to see if you're on my level or not lmao...

Disenchantedly Yours Established Member

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For example, I don't do politics, so I think people who are into politics are total douches.

 

Based on past dating experience, I can confrom that for the most part, this is quite true.

USMCHokie Established Member

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Women love that ****. I get play all day when my shirt is off. People will judge you, but man, who cares. At the end of the day, you'll be the guy swimming in cooch. And please, post a pic. I want to see if you're on my level or not lmao...

 

I don't know about that. I'm sure women like to look, but thats probably it. Of course my experience may be different...

zengirl Established Member

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You are making the assumption that someone is doing it for "visual benefits". I can't deny that when I look in the mirror and see a little abs definition, it's a hot sight, and it's motivating. But that's not the reason I do it.

 

I do exercise to strengthen my core (abs and back) because it makes me feel good, because the core is the center of your body and all strength radiates from it. I get compliments all the time on my good posture, and that's at its best when my core is strong.

 

A strong, healthy body is an extremely important foundation for a good, healthy life. It makes no sense to me why you would rule someone out for investing some time into being fit and healthy.

 

Not some time, just an extreme degree. Clearly what's extreme to me is not extreme to everyone. But anyone who would get a little rush or any motivation from seeing it in the mirror wouldn't be my cuppa (I'm not saying there's anything wrong with that---it just doesn't align with my core values). I do very much live in my body, like to respect it and make it feel at it's peak, but to me anything that's making someone "shredded" or "ripped" is working beyond the peak of your body to an unhealthy place for cosmetic purposes. It's another extreme, and not a good representative of the middle path. And there are a lot of people addicted to exercise these days. To me, that's barely better than being addicted to food or drugs or whatever --- any addiction is a big bummer.

mr.dream merchant Established Member

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I don't know about that. I'm sure women like to look, but thats probably it. Of course my experience may be different...

 

Depends on where you're at. And how you play off of their attention. There's no reason a man who's in excellent shape SHOULDN'T have at least 2-5 women on his phone that he can hit up for sex. I just got out of a 4-6 month drought, and I don't even know why I was in one because now I do this **** easy. I'm only 22, I got grown ass women throwing me the cooch. Ah, maybe it's cause of my tri-racial mix. That alone draws attention from everyone. I have a unique look.

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