robertdawson Posted August 22, 2011 Share Posted August 22, 2011 (edited) Is there any way at all for me to have a chance with my physical therapist? I'm sure there is a code of ethics that prevents dating patients and I think most PTs would probably be hesitant to flirt if they were interested out of fear of getting sued or getting in trouble by a superior. Anyway, I'm being treated for a weight lifting injury and there is an intern that is basically my age (just graduated college) who is very attractive. She is nice, but I haven't noticed any obvious signs of interest. As per my usual custom, I have started to overanalyze the situation. The second day she had treated me I started asking her questions like: "so why did you choose athletic training, did you play a sport in high school?" She talked with me and asked me a few questions (but did not go out of her way too much). When she was unhooking the machine from me she took the arm brace off and all the wires from one of the machines were tangled up in it and she laughed (she had sort of chuckled before, but had seemed like a pretty serious person so far) and said in a enthusiastic manner: "you're all tangled up!" Then when we were done, I asked her if she could do manipulation again (not like massaging or anything) since it seemed to help the day before and she was like "oh, yeah we can do that". She did it and then looked at me and gave me a big smile and walked over to another table. I looked over at her and asked how many times in a session was common for the manipulation she did and she told me 2 or 3 times. I said "oh ok" and she asked me "so do you want me to do it again?". I said "do whatever you think is best" (or something like that) and I can't remember exactly but I think she kinda smirked at me and came over and did it once more. After we were done and I was leaving I asked her if she had anything fun planned for the weekend and she said "no, not really, just a friend's birthday party tomorrow". I told her to have a good weekend and left. I'm sure I'm making all those things out to be subtle signs of interest when they're really not, but man did they really make me feel good! I keep thinking about it and it is driving me crazy! I sent her a facebook request on Friday (her name is pretty clearly displayed on her desk and since I talked to her about more personal stuff like high school, etc. I thought it would be ok) but haven't heard a response. I'm not putting a whole lot of stock into it though as I've had people take three or four weeks to respond before. Other possibility is she is serious about not having outside contact with patients. Anyway, here is my question: Should I be a "responsible" adult and just enjoy her company as long as I'm getting treatment or should I try anything? Asking her out at work could be weird and if she said no I don't think I could go be treated anymore. I guess what I'm thinking is that the only thing I can do is hope she sends me some obvious signal to get me to ask her out and act on it, but like I said I don't know if she thinks she can flirt without getting in trouble somehow. She recommended I come by as much as possible (I asked her what a good approach was to treating my injury) so I'm trying to make time in my schedule to go and really look forward to going. I'm obviously not in love with this woman or anything, but thinking about her makes me crazy! Edited August 22, 2011 by robertdawson Link to post Share on other sites
Shaun-Dro Posted August 22, 2011 Share Posted August 22, 2011 Is there any way at all for me to have a chance with my physical therapist? I'm sure there is a code of ethics that prevents dating patients and I think most PTs would probably be hesitant to flirt if they were interested out of fear of getting sued or getting in trouble by a superior. Anyway, I'm being treated for a weight lifting injury and there is an intern that is basically my age (just graduated college) who is very attractive. She is nice, but I haven't noticed any obvious signs of interest. As per my usual custom, I have started to overanalyze the situation. The second day she had treated me I started asking her questions like: "so why did you choose athletic training, did you play a sport in high school?" She talked with me and asked me a few questions (but did not go out of her way too much). When she was unhooking the machine from me she took the arm brace off and all the wires from one of the machines were tangled up in it and she laughed (she had sort of chuckled before, but had seemed like a pretty serious person so far) and said in a enthusiastic manner: "you're all tangled up!" Then when we were done, I asked her if she could do manipulation again (not like massaging or anything) since it seemed to help the day before and she was like "oh, yeah we can do that". She did it and then looked at me and gave me a big smile and walked over to another table. I looked over at her and asked how many times in a session was common for the manipulation she did and she told me 2 or 3 times. I said "oh ok" and she asked me "so do you want me to do it again?". I said "do whatever you think is best" (or something like that) and I can't remember exactly but I think she kinda smirked at me and came over and did it once more. After we were done and I was leaving I asked her if she had anything fun planned for the weekend and she said "no, not really, just a friend's birthday party tomorrow". I told her to have a good weekend and left. I'm sure I'm making all those things out to be subtle signs of interest when they're really not, but man did they really make me feel good! I keep thinking about it and it is driving me crazy! I sent her a facebook request on Friday (her name is pretty clearly displayed on her desk and since I talked to her about more personal stuff like high school, etc. I thought it would be ok) but haven't heard a response. I'm not putting a whole lot of stock into it though as I've had people take three or four weeks to respond before. Other possibility is she is serious about not having outside contact with patients. Anyway, here is my question: Should I be a "responsible" adult and just enjoy her company as long as I'm getting treatment or should I try anything? Asking her out at work could be weird and if she said no I don't think I could go be treated anymore. I guess what I'm thinking is that the only thing I can do is hope she sends me some obvious signal to get me to ask her out and act on it, but like I said I don't know if she thinks she can flirt without getting in trouble somehow. She recommended I come by as much as possible (I asked her what a good approach was to treating my injury) so I'm trying to make time in my schedule to go and really look forward to going. I'm obviously not in love with this woman or anything, but thinking about her makes me crazy! About four years ago I dated a girl who was in the PT program so that's as close as you're going to get. As for you getting with a PT, I highly doubt it as they tend to want to date someone of a higher scale than of themselves, like a doctor or CEO of a top company. When I was dating my ex back then she was just a student and I was a full-time worker so we were sort of on even grounds. That was then. But, then again, if you get lucky and meet a younger PT inside a club or lounge, you may get better luck with her because of the alcholol impaired judgment . Link to post Share on other sites
AHardDaysNight Posted August 22, 2011 Share Posted August 22, 2011 It sounds like she likes you a little bit. I think you'd have a chance with her. That being said, tread cautiously, since she does have a position of power over you. Link to post Share on other sites
Easyguy14 Posted August 22, 2011 Share Posted August 22, 2011 It sounds like she likes you a little bit. I think you'd have a chance with her. That being said, tread cautiously, since she does have a position of power over you. dont get the op's hopes up. he doesn't have a chance, trust me on this. I made the mistake of trying to date pt, ot, nurse, you name it some years ago and none of my attempts worked. then after that things were strange around the place for a time while I was there. listen to shaun-dro up there since he already dated a pt student. dont do it under the circumstances you're in right now because its gonna go wrong. Link to post Share on other sites
Author robertdawson Posted August 22, 2011 Author Share Posted August 22, 2011 (edited) This is... really disappointing, even though I knew what was likely the answer to my question :-( I guess I'm still hoping someone could tell me a way it could possibly work out. I've been trying to think of a way to subtly flirt with her without doing/saying anything that would make things awkward if she didn't like it. Shaun-Dro: date a higher scale than of themselves.... like a CEO of a top company. I'm not saying you're wrong about the top part, but just because someone is a PT that automatically makes them think they get to go for high up business executives? I can certainly see a doctor, but that? Does that mean when I graduate soon and get a professional position doing IT stuff that I will feel entitled to dating movie stars? Easyguy14: so you attempted it with a nurse, PT, etc. What happened? "Don't do it under the circumstances..." You mean being a patient there? What if I happened to heal up and did it on the last day? I guess that would still be bad if I got injured later on and had to go back. AHardDaysNight: Why would you say you think she "likes me a little bit"? Even though I can't get those things she did out of my head, in reality they were still pretty minor and are definitely not obvious signs of interest. Also, are you male or female? I guess I'm asking this because a woman might have a better idea if this is a minor showing of interest. Edited August 22, 2011 by robertdawson Link to post Share on other sites
Easyguy14 Posted August 22, 2011 Share Posted August 22, 2011 This is... really disappointing, even though I knew what was likely the answer to my question :-( I guess I'm still hoping someone could tell me a way it could possibly work out. I've been trying to think of a way to subtly flirt with her without doing/saying anything that would make things awkward if she didn't like it. Shaun-Dro: date a higher scale than of themselves.... like a CEO of a top company. I'm not saying you're wrong about the top part, but just because someone is a PT that automatically makes them think they get to go for high up business executives? I can certainly see a doctor, but that? Does that mean when I graduate soon and get a professional position doing IT stuff that I will feel entitled to dating movie stars? Easyguy14: so you attempted it with a nurse, PT, etc. What happened? "Don't do it under the circumstances..." You mean being a patient there? What if I happened to heal up and did it on the last day? I guess that would still be bad if I got injured later on and had to go back. AHardDaysNight: Why would you say you think she "likes me a little bit"? Even though I can't get those things she did out of my head, in reality they were still pretty minor and are definitely not obvious signs of interest. Also, are you male or female? I guess I'm asking this because a woman might have a better idea if this is a minor showing of interest. trust me she's not interested robert dawson. not trying to be mean or kill a chance you think you might have with her. she's doing her job the best way by making sure you get treated with great service. she might find you a little interesting or whatever but that's as far as she's gonna take it. I experienced very similar vibes from people in the medical business and it got awkward after I tried to ask them out. they made excuses and soon I was seeing a different pt, ot, nurse, etc. but oddly enough that Im in the funeral business now and I have no problem talking to one of these people especially a nurse. they're so morbidly curious. go figure Link to post Share on other sites
allina Posted August 22, 2011 Share Posted August 22, 2011 Wait till she is done treating you then make your move. Don't pursue her while you are still her patient, even if she is interested she likely would not date a patient as it could cost her her job. When you see her be kind and charming but not too flirtatious. Respect her as a professional in her field. If you have the guts ask her out after your last appointment. You can thank her for her work, tell her your injury is feeling so much better and tell her you'd like to thank her by taking her to dinner Link to post Share on other sites
Author robertdawson Posted August 22, 2011 Author Share Posted August 22, 2011 Easyguy14: You're probably right... man this plain sucks! I guess my only chance is if she invites me to ask her out in some way, but like it was said, as long as I'm a patient it won't work. I could just say screw it and not go if I can't stand not trying, they don't do a whole lot I couldn't do at home by myself (although the way they can do it is not nearly as awkward or difficult) Link to post Share on other sites
Author robertdawson Posted August 22, 2011 Author Share Posted August 22, 2011 Anyone else? Perhaps someone wants to be a hero and have some slick way to approach this? Link to post Share on other sites
Mark1 Posted August 22, 2011 Share Posted August 22, 2011 Ask her out after your last appointment with her. Link to post Share on other sites
DoS Posted August 22, 2011 Share Posted August 22, 2011 (edited) Wait till she is done treating you then make your move. Don't pursue her while you are still her patient, even if she is interested she likely would not date a patient as it could cost her her job. When you see her be kind and charming but not too flirtatious. Respect her as a professional in her field. If you have the guts ask her out after your last appointment. You can thank her for her work, tell her your injury is feeling so much better and tell her you'd like to thank her by taking her to dinner I like this idea. It gives you time to better gauge how she may feel about you, you can plant the seed (act charming and flirt with her a tiny bit), and also avoids the idea of having to switch PTs or any awkward situation. Also I think the whole "PT would date a doctor," is a hasty generalization. How could this random man on the internet tell you from his 1 (maybe a couple more?) experience that ALL PTs ONLY go for higher ups. He's acting like a PT is a movie star who would only date another movie star. Reality check - the retarded girl in my cul-de-sac just graduated to become a PT, it's not a prestigious role. For the record, I'm male. Edited August 22, 2011 by DoS grammar Link to post Share on other sites
Shaun-Dro Posted August 22, 2011 Share Posted August 22, 2011 I like this idea. It gives you time to better gauge how she may feel about you, you can plant the seed (act charming and flirt with her a tiny bit), and also avoids the idea of having to switch PTs or any awkward situation. Also I think the whole "PT would date a doctor," is a hasty generalization. How could this random man on the internet tell you from his 1 (maybe a couple more?) experience that ALL PTs ONLY go for higher ups. He's acting like a PT is a movie star who would only date another movie star. Reality check - the retarded girl in my cul-de-sac just graduated to become a PT, it's not a prestigious role. For the record, I'm male. This random man has a lot of nerve, I know but seriously they're often very known to go for more higher ups in the medical field. I was only half serious in my comment about a CEO of a successful company, but PTs do look for a man either on their level of success or better, because most of them are into settling down soon. It goes hand-in-hand with their settled career. I've known quite a few in my heyday at various worksites. They were all mostly on the same page when it came to dating and relationships. I used to listen to them during lunch hour, you name it. All on the same page. As for PT students like the one I had and banged several years ago might feel a tad dissimilar. But I doubt this woman Rob speaks of is in that bracket. However, if this PT that Rob wants to hit on is in the younger stat queue, he may stand a chance, but only after he's done as her patient. I'm sure she's going to decline anyway because even now I don't even bother with those women. I prefer lower-class working women because the dynamics of what I'm looking for is different. That's just me. Link to post Share on other sites
DoS Posted August 22, 2011 Share Posted August 22, 2011 This random man has a lot of nerve, I know but seriously they're often very known to go for more higher ups in the medical field. I was only half serious in my comment about a CEO of a successful company, but PTs do look for a man either on their level of success or better, because most of them are into settling down soon. It goes hand-in-hand with their settled career. I've known quite a few in my heyday at various worksites. They were all mostly on the same page when it came to dating and relationships. I used to listen to them during lunch hour, you name it. All on the same page. As for PT students like the one I had and banged several years ago might feel a tad dissimilar. But I doubt this woman Rob speaks of is in that bracket. However, if this PT that Rob wants to hit on is in the younger stat queue, he may stand a chance, but only after he's done as her patient. I'm sure she's going to decline anyway because even now I don't even bother with those women. I prefer lower-class working women because the dynamics of what I'm looking for is different. That's just me. It seems you have more experience than I expected, and I suppose your opinion is more well founded than I had anticipated. Staying on topic (for robertdawson's sake), I don't want you to be dissuaded from doing something that could be an experience (either bad or good, I couldn't tell you, and hell, maybe you'd end up marrying her). My point is there isn't much harm in asking after you have completed your physical therapy. And you'll never know what could have been if you don't try. Maybe Shaun-dro is entirely right and you're facing ridiculous odds against you, but don't let that deter you. Fighting an uphill battle only makes the victory more glorious. Link to post Share on other sites
carhill Posted August 22, 2011 Share Posted August 22, 2011 Should I be a "responsible" adult and just enjoy her company as long as I'm getting treatment or should I try anything? Focus on your therapeutic process. It's her job to be friendly and facilitative and boost your esteem, all of which augment the therapy process. Also, an element of marketing is part of the dynamic. You're a customer. If she's interested in dating you, it will become obvious, generally around the time therapy is scheduled to conclude. You'll note changes in behavior. If she remains consistent and professional, good on her. She's a good therapist and you are a valued client. I happened to talk at length (a couple of hours) this past weekend with a PT who's the GF of a young male friend of mine. She takes her work very seriously and generally works with professional athletes. She's also a nationally published fitness model (yep, one of those 'universally attractive' ladies) and is quite used to men hitting on her. She talked about body language and expressions and how she keeps things professional with men who are used to having any woman they want and can be arrogant about it. To support another poster's assertion about dating parity, her BF is also a former (Wilhelmina) male model who just graduated business school and is starting law school this fall. They make a great couple but I see her as a bit more mature than him, relationship-wise. If she were single and in your dynamic and 'wanted' to date you, there would be no ambiguity, trust me. That's my data point. Hope your injury resolves and things work out with the lady. Link to post Share on other sites
Shaun-Dro Posted August 22, 2011 Share Posted August 22, 2011 Focus on your therapeutic process. It's her job to be friendly and facilitative and boost your esteem, all of which augment the therapy process. Also, an element of marketing is part of the dynamic. You're a customer. If she's interested in dating you, it will become obvious, generally around the time therapy is scheduled to conclude. You'll note changes in behavior. If she remains consistent and professional, good on her. She's a good therapist and you are a valued client. I happened to talk at length (a couple of hours) this past weekend with a PT who's the GF of a young male friend of mine. She takes her work very seriously and generally works with professional athletes. She's also a nationally published fitness model (yep, one of those 'universally attractive' ladies) and is quite used to men hitting on her. She talked about body language and expressions and how she keeps things professional with men who are used to having any woman they want and can be arrogant about it. To support another poster's assertion about dating parity, her BF is also a former (Wilhelmina) male model who just graduated business school and is starting law school this fall. They make a great couple but I see her as a bit more mature than him, relationship-wise. If she were single and in your dynamic and 'wanted' to date you, there would be no ambiguity, trust me. That's my data point. Hope your injury resolves and things work out with the lady. Listen to this guy up there. He's basically on the same page as me when I stated my side to this thread. The PT is being a professional with you and most likely wants to keep it that way while you're under her care. But, for whatever reasons, if you still feel inclined to give this a go, jump on board and feel her out; only after your therapy sessions have ended. Link to post Share on other sites
Author robertdawson Posted August 22, 2011 Author Share Posted August 22, 2011 So you say there will be no ambiguity right? What sort of things would you notice? Also, my injury isn't major so there is no scheduled course of treatment, I'm basically going in as I need to. She has only been working there as an intern three days (she told me the first day I went it was her first day) so maybe she isn't too mature about her career yet. Shaun-Dro: how do you know most of them want to "settle down"? Have you overheard lots of them talking about this before (experience) or is this a generalization? To be honest, I'm sort of concerned about asking her out (even later on) because there is a good chance I'll be injured again in some way (I'm an avid weight lifter who is considering competition later on). The clinic she works at is a lot cheaper than other plplaces too.. Link to post Share on other sites
Easyguy14 Posted August 22, 2011 Share Posted August 22, 2011 So you say there will be no ambiguity right? What sort of things would you notice? Also, my injury isn't major so there is no scheduled course of treatment, I'm basically going in as I need to. She has only been working there as an intern three days (she told me the first day I went it was her first day) so maybe she isn't too mature about her career yet. Shaun-Dro: how do you know most of them want to "settle down"? Have you overheard lots of them talking about this before (experience) or is this a generalization? To be honest, I'm sort of concerned about asking her out (even later on) because there is a good chance I'll be injured again in some way (I'm an avid weight lifter who is considering competition later on). The clinic she works at is a lot cheaper than other plplaces too.. Im on my lunch break now and I couldn't help but return to this thread to see what's going on and there's been plenty. robert dawson can I ask you why you're so into her? you wanna make love to her basically, right? I can tell. its in the man's nature basically. its how we're wired when we see an attractive woman. but is it worth the risk? do you really wanna try to go a relationship with her? what do you do for a living? do you meet women in other places? how old are you? how old is she? Im curious because your interest in her is really high so please answer my questions because Im trying to see where you're really coming from since I was in your place not that long ago. Link to post Share on other sites
Author robertdawson Posted August 22, 2011 Author Share Posted August 22, 2011 (edited) Well, finding her attractive is a large part of it. I don't really know a whole lot about her so I can't like her too much otherwise. However, she doesn't come off as being juvenile or a ditz (party girl for example) like some of the other girls I've met. Also, even though my major is in something else, I do enjoy exercise science and like the athletic training field. I do feel kind of silly for feeling so "attached" (can't think of a better word) so early on. "Is it worth the risk?" Well, as I see it the risks are: 1) Not being able (I guess I *could* but... yeah) to go back there if I had another injury (having to pay a lot more if I needed to go somewhere else) 2) General embarrassment if rejected, especially if I felt like I hadn't gotten any decent signals ("thinking to myself 'you're such an idiot, you knew you had no chance'). It is part of a doctor's office so I'm sure my doc would hear about it. 3) Even though I'm not doing anything bad (being polite, not being arrogant and trying to flirt openly with her), I would feel sort of like a douche if I got rejected. I mean, she just started a few days ago and a few weeks in she is already getting hit on or asked out? "Do you really wanna try..." I would like to see where it would go if it were possible, yes. "What do you do for a living?" I'm still a student so I have a couple college student jobs. "Do I meet women in other places?" Um, not really. Every now and then I'll meet someone in a class, but not too often. I don't really party so the only other places I meet women are restaurants, stores, etc. (basically people in customer service jobs). Every now and then I'll have a conversation with a girl that is walking around campus, but you can't really do much seeing someone only once unless you want to be bold and try to get something started right there. This sounds lame I know, but I try to say hello to random girls around campus to see what sort of response I get. Also I do it just to try and practice being "more social". Part of my reasoning is that I may get a really good response and have something go from there or I may just get a decent response, meet someone new and maybe see them again somewhere else. "How old are you? How old is she?" I'm 22, closer to 23. I'm only still in school because I changed my major a year ago. She graduated last semester, and started her internship just a few days ago so I assume she is 22-23. Edited August 22, 2011 by robertdawson Link to post Share on other sites
Shaun-Dro Posted August 22, 2011 Share Posted August 22, 2011 Well, finding her attractive is a large part of it. I don't really know a whole lot about her so I can't like her too much otherwise. However, she doesn't come off as being juvenile or a ditz (party girl for example) like some of the other girls I've met. Also, even though my major is in something else, I do enjoy exercise science and like the athletic training field. I do feel kind of silly for feeling so "attached" (can't think of a better word) so early on. "Is it worth the risk?" Well, as I see it the risks are: 1) Not being able (I guess I *could* but... yeah) to go back there if I had another injury (having to pay a lot more if I needed to go somewhere else) 2) General embarrassment if rejected, especially if I felt like I hadn't gotten any decent signals ("thinking to myself 'you're such an idiot, you knew you had no chance'). It is part of a doctor's office so I'm sure my doc would hear about it. 3) Even though I'm not doing anything bad (being polite, not being arrogant and trying to flirt openly with her), I would feel sort of like a douche if I got rejected. I mean, she just started a few days ago and a few weeks in she is already getting hit on or asked out? "Do you really wanna try..." I would like to see where it would go if it were possible, yes. "What do you do for a living?" I'm still a student so I have a couple college student jobs. "Do I meet women in other places?" Um, not really. Every now and then I'll meet someone in a class, but not too often. I don't really party so the only other places I meet women are restaurants, stores, etc. (basically people in customer service jobs). Every now and then I'll have a conversation with a girl that is walking around campus, but you can't really do much seeing someone only once unless you want to be bold and try to get something started right there. This sounds lame I know, but I try to say hello to random girls around campus to see what sort of response I get. Also I do it just to try and practice being "more social". Part of my reasoning is that I may get a really good response and have something go from there or I may just get a decent response, meet someone new and maybe see them again somewhere else. "How old are you? How old is she?" I'm 22, closer to 23. I'm only still in school because I changed my major a year ago. She graduated last semester, and started her internship just a few days ago so I assume she is 22-23. Alright look, if you're that into her or want to give her a go, I suggest you warm her up to the idea of dating you. Meaning, don't just flat out ask her to dinner or whatever. Throw things at her. For example, tell her about a movie you wanted to see and want to get around to seeing. That's a way to find out if she's into that stuff. bring up your hobbies to her and how passionate you are about them, like sports or concerts, you get my point? If she likes you even a tiny bit, she'll question you on them. If she doesn't then leave it at, especially if she only responds in kind without any solid reciprocation on her part. Also, play close attention to her eyes. They will show you more on her interest level. I talk to women all the freaking time. I'm not one to tell you that I know all there is to know about them because I don't. No man does, and vice-versa, but experience speaks volume. I wasn't always sociable, but I broke out of my shell, and went beserk. I do act like an ass at times, but hey, that's life. At least I'm trying, unlike these other guys who just stand around and sweat. More importantly, keep the questions coming in her direction. See how much she wants to divulge about herself. Ask about different men hitting on her in the medical field. See what she says to that. If she already has a boyfriend, she'll definitely bring it up at this point, as she'll feel that you're getting more into her personal space. Don't be afraid to do this either. You don't need her approval. You wanna know about her the best way possible. Link to post Share on other sites
AHardDaysNight Posted August 22, 2011 Share Posted August 22, 2011 Shaun is right. Better to give it a shot, rather than have 'what ifs.' Link to post Share on other sites
carhill Posted August 22, 2011 Share Posted August 22, 2011 So you say there will be no ambiguity right? What sort of things would you notice? Most specifically how she touched me. I saw this in another data point, someone who is a massage therapist by profession (20+ years) and how her 'style' of touch changed when she wanted something from me. The lady in my first datapoint might have 'demonstrated' some moves that blurred the line between detached professional touch and demeanor and more personal interaction. Obviously she didn't, since one her BF was in the next room, two she wasn't interested in me and three she's young enough to be a granddaughter. IME, with a wide variety of women in my 52, the ones who are interested make it known, whether in body language, touch or direct speech. Their aura changes. This can be situational. Example (from experience): she could 'flirt' a little with touch and word as a way to get you/me to come back for more. More means more money for her and her employer. I recall a lady running an investment flirtation scam on me many years ago. It was a real eye-opener, and happened with someone I had trusted for a number of years. This analysis/experience is predicated upon the title of the thread. Obviously, if you want to date her, ask her on a date without regard to the ramifications of that question. You'll have your answer. There are lots of competent male and female PT's out there who can assist you. Good luck. Link to post Share on other sites
nyc_guy2003 Posted August 22, 2011 Share Posted August 22, 2011 I hate to break it to you but I work with a sales guy that I need to keep on my good side so I banter with him the same way this chick is bantering with you. He happens to be g@y and I happen to be his type (although I am married and 100% hetero) so no harm in shaking what my momma gave me to grease the wheels of business a little. Link to post Share on other sites
Author robertdawson Posted August 22, 2011 Author Share Posted August 22, 2011 Nycguy: normally I would agree with you, but this is a free clinic. There is no reason to try to get me to come back. What do you mean bantering? You think any of that actually amounted to anything? I was thinking I was trying to create attraction when there was none. Carhill: hmm, i really dont know what kind of body language or speech or whatever would indicate interest. I'm sure it meant nothing, but the other day when she was hooking me up she had leaned over to fix something and her chest slightly pushed up against me. I say I don't think it means anything because she had to fix something later and asked if she could reach over me that time. Shaun-Dro: Your advice seems pretty solid, but I have a question: won't talking about if any guys are hitting on her make it pretty obvious what I'm up to? Link to post Share on other sites
DeusExMachina Posted August 22, 2011 Share Posted August 22, 2011 Focus on your therapeutic process. It's her job to be friendly and facilitative and boost your esteem, all of which augment the therapy process. Also, an element of marketing is part of the dynamic. You're a customer. If she's interested in dating you, it will become obvious, generally around the time therapy is scheduled to conclude. You'll note changes in behavior. If she remains consistent and professional, good on her. She's a good therapist and you are a valued client. I happened to talk at length (a couple of hours) this past weekend with a PT who's the GF of a young male friend of mine. She takes her work very seriously and generally works with professional athletes. She's also a nationally published fitness model (yep, one of those 'universally attractive' ladies) and is quite used to men hitting on her. She talked about body language and expressions and how she keeps things professional with men who are used to having any woman they want and can be arrogant about it. To support another poster's assertion about dating parity, her BF is also a former (Wilhelmina) male model who just graduated business school and is starting law school this fall. They make a great couple but I see her as a bit more mature than him, relationship-wise. If she were single and in your dynamic and 'wanted' to date you, there would be no ambiguity, trust me. That's my data point. Hope your injury resolves and things work out with the lady. Sound advice from carhill. IF you get too flirty or forward she might feel uncomfortable and request to be removed form your case. Focus on your recovery and keep the convo light, but still a little inquisitive about her. when your therapy is over then you should make your move. Hopefully at time you and her will have a more casual relationship. I wouldn't worry her about not dating above their status. One of my ex-wife's close friends was a PT and she dated a blue collar worker and the few co-works of her i met didn't have millionaire husbands. If she is that shallow then best you have nothing to do with her. Link to post Share on other sites
Author robertdawson Posted August 23, 2011 Author Share Posted August 23, 2011 (edited) Sounds like good advice. I'll be polite and only mildly flirt with her. She doesn't even technically have to work with me if she is busy with other people as there is the head AT and her (intern). I think there may also be a PT student that is there sometimes. What I am saying is it wouldn't be that hard for her to not have to deal with me anymore if that is what she wanted. Also, like I said, I don't have a scheduled amount of time I'm supposed to go for. It is basically a "go if you think it helps thing". Did I mention it was a free clinic? I guess I'll know if she is interested or not, like carhill said. If I can't tell she is interested I guess I'll just be a responsible adult with some self control and move on. This is probably a case of wanting what I can't have. Edited August 23, 2011 by robertdawson Link to post Share on other sites
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