Pyro Posted August 24, 2011 Posted August 24, 2011 Pyro, I really don't like your last statement. I challenge you to prove it in a double blind scientific study. this thread alone proves it. I don't know how you guys could keep tabs on such things. There are certainly a number of each on LS, but I have no idea about the breakdown as some are more vocal than others. There are SO many more threads with negativity towards women on here than the other way around. I am NOT denying that there are misandrists on this sight because there are but the misogynists outnumber them. Again it comes down to the fact that women can talk to their family/friends about relationship issues whereas men hide it from people they know (generally speaking) and post about it anonymously online.
Woggle Posted August 24, 2011 Posted August 24, 2011 Another example of misandry is the one thread where a guy catches his wife cheating on him with somebody in Cuba and instead of people empathizing with him one poster says blames him and says that he should just let have the affair and then take her back when she is ready to come back.
phineas Posted August 24, 2011 Posted August 24, 2011 Gee phineas, I didn't realize you swung that way. There's enough swing for everyone who wants a piece.
John Michael Kane Posted August 24, 2011 Posted August 24, 2011 when someone starts dropping insults & name calling it's a sure sign in my book that they really have nothing to bring to the discussion. It also makes you look unintelligent & well, tells me you know you are wrong & don't lack the courage to admit it. You can say whatever you want. Insult however you want. From this point on I view you as an irrational person & your perception of me no longer matters. Don't let these "women" get the best of you. Chin up.
Almond_Joy Posted August 24, 2011 Posted August 24, 2011 I never noticed a disproportionate distribution of female haters or male haters on these boards. There's a healthy amount of both, and both sexes often have a lot of insight, despite their bitterness/anger/whatever. I for one especially appreciate the honest feedback from the guys, because I can't get it from the guys I talk to on a day to day basis. An online forum is not the place for folks to be walking on eggshells, IMO. You come to online forums when you want to hear what people are really thinking about topics - the good, the bad, and the ugly.
dreamingoftigers Posted August 24, 2011 Posted August 24, 2011 I understand this, but honestly, in my experience women almost never respect a guy who does things for her on a regular basis & they find it unattractive. I'm not talking about those weasels that do stuff for women because they think it will get them sex either. I'm talking generally nice guys like me that enjoy helping people out when they can. You get taken advantage of. Everybody does it, but like I said, you don't see a guy working his cleavage to get another guy to help him move. In general I have seen two sort of groups in life: The nice guys who care etc. And they end up in not as many FWB, ONS situations etc. They wait a little longer for a woman but have healthier relationships with nice women. The guys who are vacant inside, whether they are needy or jerky. They flit from woman to woman taking what they can get and so do their gfs. Many are codependent and spend almost every waking hour together. These guys are viewed as "getting more women" but really they can't sustain anything. There are men that use their sexuality to get things. There are very attractive men that use rather plain, unattractive or unconfident women. There are also plenty of gay men who tend to be a little more open.
Woggle Posted August 24, 2011 Posted August 24, 2011 I for one especially appreciate the honest feedback from the guys, because I can't get it from the guys I talk to on a day to day basis. An online forum is not the place for folks to be walking on eggshells, IMO. You come to online forums when you want to hear what people are really thinking about topics - the good, the bad, and the ugly. I appreciate this. If more women actually listened to what some of these guys have to say instead of having a knee jerk reaction they might learn a thing or two about men.
phineas Posted August 24, 2011 Posted August 24, 2011 In general I have seen two sort of groups in life: The nice guys who care etc. And they end up in not as many FWB, ONS situations etc. They wait a little longer for a woman but have healthier relationships with nice women. The guys who are vacant inside, whether they are needy or jerky. They flit from woman to woman taking what they can get and so do their gfs. Many are codependent and spend almost every waking hour together. These guys are viewed as "getting more women" but really they can't sustain anything. There are men that use their sexuality to get things. There are very attractive men that use rather plain, unattractive or unconfident women. There are also plenty of gay men who tend to be a little more open. I actually am a nice guy. I just won't be used by women I barely know anymore. She wants help on her house, well she better go find herself a man with tools. LOL! If she wants me to be her man cool. I got tools. On the 2nd type: If the woman's terms for sleeping with the guy is a relationship & she's upfront about that & the guy lies to get some then bails on her then yeah, he used the fact he was hot to take advantage of a woman. But, how often does that really happen? Most times the woman takes the guy home because she wanted to without any terms then feels guilty afterword & claims she was played so she doesn't feel like a slut. I mean c'mon, a woman takes a guy home she just met or hardly knows? Who expects a relationship in that scenereo? I've had women come on to me, come home with me & the next morning she's talking about how I gotta meet her son. WTF?!? Then i'm accused of being a player who took advantage of her? As if. I was the drunk one & she drove me home! LOL!
GoodOnPaper Posted August 24, 2011 Posted August 24, 2011 The nice guys who care etc. And they end up in not as many FWB, ONS situations etc. They wait a little longer for a woman but have healthier relationships with nice women. Were these guys content with their approach to dating -- didn't the waiting drive them crazy? I found being a low-demand male to be agonizing. Always a lot of pressure when you have to either dive into a full relationship OR have no companionship, intimacy, and sex whatsoever.
Kamille Posted August 24, 2011 Posted August 24, 2011 I appreciate this. If more women actually listened to what some of these guys have to say instead of having a knee jerk reaction they might learn a thing or two about men. Agreed. Also, if more of the guys listened to what some of these women have to say instead of having a knee jerk reaction, they might learn a couple of helpful things about women. It always goes both ways.
phineas Posted August 24, 2011 Posted August 24, 2011 Agreed. Also, if more of the guys listened to what some of these women have to say instead of having a knee jerk reaction, they might learn a couple of helpful things about women. It always goes both ways. There are some helpful women on this forum. But, the women with the "misandry" hot-key can GTFO because i can care less what they have to say. Sorry, but their about as useful to me as extreme liberals or conservatives on a political forum. it's their way & everyone else is wrong. yeah, don't waste my time. The same for guys like that angry virgin. GTFO. you don't want anybody's help. if you did, you'd actually listen to the advice people give you.
sally4sara Posted August 24, 2011 Posted August 24, 2011 There are some helpful women on this forum. But, the women with the "misandry" hot-key can GTFO because i can care less what they have to say. Sorry, but their about as useful to me as extreme liberals or conservatives on a political forum. it's their way & everyone else is wrong. yeah, don't waste my time. The same for guys like that angry virgin. GTFO. you don't want anybody's help. if you did, you'd actually listen to the advice people give you. Oh but you asked me what I had to say and then filled in the blanks for me with lies and false accusations. You don't even have the character in you to acknowledge this and apologize. You didn't want workable advise on how to solve a problem, you wanted me to condemn people I've never met for something I didn't witness when I personally have no problem letting friends hop on my cab ride. You said they are not friends yet you let them get in the cab ride even thought this has not just happened once. Nope you painted me as defending them instead of advise becaue I'm of their gender. That makes you just like the angry virgin in that you don't want help and goes on to make you worse in that you can't hear women at all, not even ones who have done absolutely nothing to you.
stillafool Posted August 24, 2011 Posted August 24, 2011 I have read plenty of posts. Just read one where there is a cultural difference with the couple and people are saying "Well thats his culture, deal with it" The woman has a culture to. Why do women have to cater to the men. What about compromising? Maybe that is a foreign concept here. I have seen threads where the husband is cheating on his wife and although the wife cheated first, has stopped cheating for years and doing what she is supposed to, men are advising him to continue his cheating because that is what she deserves.
stillafool Posted August 24, 2011 Posted August 24, 2011 I have read plenty of posts. Just read one where there is a cultural difference with the couple and people are saying "Well thats his culture, deal with it" The woman has a culture to. Why do women have to cater to the men. What about compromising? Maybe that is a foreign concept here. I have seen threads where the husband is cheating on his wife and although the wife cheated first, has stopped cheating for years and doing what she is supposed to, men are advising him to continue his cheating because that is what she deserves. They aren't telling him to leave but to continue to cheat. Yet when women do this they are whores.
thatone Posted August 24, 2011 Posted August 24, 2011 (edited) I have seen threads where the husband is cheating on his wife and although the wife cheated first, has stopped cheating for years and doing what she is supposed to, men are advising him to continue his cheating because that is what she deserves. They aren't telling him to leave but to continue to cheat. Yet when women do this they are whores. i would advise him the same way. if she did it first, she is a whore. just as if he were the one who did it first, she would be justified in judging him to be the cheating as*hole. this is what we're talking about. the knee jerk response. women's knee jerk response is to trust the word of other women, men's knee jerk response is to look at what a woman says and assume it all to be bullsh*t, then figure out what's really going on. take for example the girl who is complaining about messaging a guy she broke up with and trying to friend zone him, and being upset that he turned the conversation that she initiated into his sexual desire for her. as a man, i say...that's what you get. why did she message someone she broke up with? if she wanted him around she wouldn't have broken up with him, and if he wanted her around he would've put more effort into the relationship before they broke up. she wanted attention for free, he wanted to get laid for free, neither was agreeable in providing what the other wanted to it ended. but while he was content with the relationship being over (as evidenced by him not contacting her), she still wants the free attention from him so she went fishing for it by calling him. http://www.loveshack.org/forums/t293806/ but there are 5 women defending her and trying to help her blame him. in fairness, two women pretty much said what i was saying/thinking. the fact is the conversation she mentions never would have happened if she hadn't contacted him, so it's her fault, not his. but that doesn't change the fact that by a greater than 2 to 1 margin women who replied are giving her what she wants (which is not advice or the truth, but justification for how she has decided to behave regardless of truth or consequences). Edited August 24, 2011 by thatone
JohnnyCage Posted August 24, 2011 Posted August 24, 2011 I think healthy relationships require compromise and taking responsibility for your actions-words. Men and women are equal. Both partners needs should be met. You are right. So the example you used (culture thread) what compromise did that woman make for the relationship? Did she take 2 mins out to block her bf's family from seeing those pics? And another solution would be to have 2 diff fb accounts?
JohnnyCage Posted August 24, 2011 Posted August 24, 2011 you know what's funny, by that crazy rationale tigressa is the most rational one of the bunch, she gave us the pic! lol best quote in this thread
soserious1 Posted August 24, 2011 Posted August 24, 2011 Look where the War Between the Sexes got us... to the brink of Mutually Assured Destruction. Satisfied yet, everyone? Yes, actually I am, aside from sex, there's nothing I want or need from men,like many men here I find intimate relationships to be time consuming, emotionally draining & fiscally costly. I'm happier on my own & suspect a lot of other men and women feel relieved when they come to realize just how much easier being single really is.
Memphis Raines Posted August 24, 2011 Posted August 24, 2011 I have read several posts that tell a woman poster that she should be the one to apologize, or back off or etc...even if its the guys fault. Are men always right? This site seems to cater to this mentality. you must just be reading select posts. because I see men and women get it equally here.
Memphis Raines Posted August 24, 2011 Posted August 24, 2011 Women do get a lot of **** on this board and there's a lot of angry misogynists here, and I've read plenty of misandrist posts too. Like the thread where many women are saying its ok for a woman to commit battery on a man if he cheated, but a man shouldn't even defend himself. and a couple of guys saying that too because they think they might get a little internet nookie.
Woggle Posted August 24, 2011 Posted August 24, 2011 and I've read plenty of misandrist posts too. Like the thread where many women are saying its ok for a woman to commit battery on a man if he cheated, but a man shouldn't even defend himself. and a couple of guys saying that too because they think they might get a little internet nookie. I read that as well. It's the subtle stuff like how many women will defend another woman no matter what.
soserious1 Posted August 24, 2011 Posted August 24, 2011 (edited) I read that as well. It's the subtle stuff like how many women will defend another woman no matter what. I find no need to be subtle at all, Woggle, I have no problem openly admitting that I view men basically as dildos in construction boots,aside from sex,there's nothing I need or want from men, IMHO a "Committed relationship" is akin to being sentenced to prison. So here's one woman freely admitting her indifference to men and I frankly like men who also openly admit their contempt for women as well, it's refreshingly real and it's ... gasp... honest! Edited August 24, 2011 by soserious1
Woggle Posted August 24, 2011 Posted August 24, 2011 I find no need to be subtle at all, Woggle, I have no problem openly admitting that I view men basically as dildos in construction boots,aside from sex,there's nothing I need or want from men, IMHO a "Committed relationship" is akin to being sentenced to prison. So here's one woman freely admitting her indifference to men and I frankly like men who also openly admit their contempt for women as well, it's refreshingly real and it's ... gasp... honest! At least you are honest. I respect women who come right out and say they hate men.
phineas Posted August 24, 2011 Posted August 24, 2011 Yes, actually I am, aside from sex, there's nothing I want or need from men,like many men here I find intimate relationships to be time consuming, emotionally draining & fiscally costly. I'm happier on my own & suspect a lot of other men and women feel relieved when they come to realize just how much easier being single really is. I U. do you want to not get married?
John Michael Kane Posted August 24, 2011 Posted August 24, 2011 I have seen threads where the husband is cheating on his wife and although the wife cheated first, has stopped cheating for years and doing what she is supposed to, men are advising him to continue his cheating because that is what she deserves. They aren't telling him to leave but to continue to cheat. Yet when women do this they are whores. That wife you're referring to is a serial cheater and has slept with guys before they got married and after. He only had one woman. Not saying that he's not at fault here but these misandrists on this site need to accept the truth that men are not the only problem here. A man posts about how he's not putting up with a woman who clearly doesn't deserve him and he's bitter. A woman who cheats and/or disrespects her man and she's praised and glorified.
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