Women posters on this site catch alot of hell....

[Woggle]

So on a relationship board only women are allowed to post about their relationship issues? Is this what people are saying?

 

I stick up for men when I see a man who is clearly being wronged being treat as if he is the victimizer.

[Pyro]

So on a relationship board only women are allowed to post about their relationship issues? Is this what people are saying?

 

I stick up for men when I see a man who is clearly being wronged being treat as if he is the victimizer.

 

If you take your advice again and read more posts you will see that men will most of the time generalize the entire female population. It doesn't happen as often on here the other way around.

[Woggle]

If you take your advice again and read more posts you will see that men will most of the time generalize the entire female population. It doesn't happen as often on here the other way around.

 

Because men wonder if there are any women who will actually hold another woman accountable for treating a man like garbage. You see threads all the time where a woman treats a man like crap yet the women seem to rush to her defense. They don't say it is because of gender but it is not hard to figure out why.

[sally4sara]

So on a relationship board only women are allowed to post about their relationship issues? Is this what people are saying?

 

I stick up for men when I see a man who is clearly being wronged being treat as if he is the victimizer.

 

There is a difference between going on a hate fill rant about gender, citing personal experiences anywhere from 3 to 20 years ago to drive the point home as proof that a particular gender is screwed up and just relaying a problem you are dealing with at that moment with a particular person, using the experiences you have had with that particular person for some of the things that confuse you in THIS relationship with THIS person.

If you cannot see the difference then I am giving you too much credit.

[Pyro]

Because men wonder if there are any women who will actually hold another woman accountable for treating a man like garbage. You see threads all the time where a woman treats a man like crap yet the women seem to rush to her defense. They don't say it is because of gender but it is not hard to figure out why.

 

I am so sorry that you are going blind and suffering from memory loss. There are so many threads on here where women tear apart another woman who is clearly in the wrong in her relationship. You have even commented on many of them saying how it is a fresh breath of air to see that. You have stated that numerous times. I am so glad that your wife does not see this side of you. She doesn't deserve this side of you.

 

Please post links to at least 2 or 3 threads where more than one woman jumped to the defense of another woman in the wrong. Can you do that for us?

[dreamingoftigers]

There are some women who do but I see threads where men get crapped all over but the minute a man says something to defend his gender he is a misogynist.

 

Please review the thread about the Revenge Affair. People are calling out this poster for cheating on his reformed wife and two make posters are saying that it is only "because he is a man."

 

You backed up that if the poster was a woman that she would be coddled.

 

Quite frankly so many women have come to Loveshack saying: "wah, my husband has a good job and stuff and he loves me and is good to me but I like this hot guy from down the road that I met last week and had sex with. What does my pathetic self do?"

 

Well quite frankly not many women line up to say: "oh you poor thing, how ever will you cope with your vagina being that sore from twice the sex. These stupid men put so many demands on us. Maybe just tell your husband you have a headache until you decide to divorce him and take half his stuff to go live with the new guy."

 

Ugh.

 

Often I see names like "slut" and "whore" and they don't go at a 1:1 ratio for names like "*******."

 

I really don't give a crap all that much, but I do get sick of the "women will justify this and that" every time someone who was born with a vagina has a slightly different opinion.

 

Or "women just want this, all women just want that. Women just look archly like you owe them meals and shoes."

 

Blech. Who would want to be considered part of a group of people considered: whores, sluts, users, mooches, leeches, cheaters, selfish, miserable nags?

 

I didn't go and slut myself out or leech off of a guy.

 

In fact I have been through much of the crap that some of the men on here have been through and some worse.

 

I get told infrequently that it must be because I exhibit xyz ridiculous female trait which DOES NOT apply to me.

 

I get told that my husband's choices are my fault because "no man would ever xyz if you were a decent enough female in xyz way."

 

I ignore most of it because it speaks to how immature some posters are. But to be frank, in my history on LS, only two female posters have ever attacked me personally and both have apologized afterward. I have lost count long ago of the men that have. And some in relatively sick ways.

 

I would hate to think that make posters have the converse experience.

 

In fact I would love to see some examples of obvious non-troll postings as such.

[dreamingoftigers]

I am so sorry that you are going blind and suffering from memory loss. There are so many threads on here where women tear apart another woman who is clearly in the wrong in her relationship. You have even commented on many of them saying how it is a fresh breath of air to see that. You have stated that numerous times. I am so glad that your wife does not see this side of you. She doesn't deserve this side of you.

 

Please post links to at least 2 or 3 threads where more than one woman jumped to the defense of another woman in the wrong. Can you do that for us?

 

This post is totally true. 110%

[sally4sara]

Like I said, I have no desire to befriend them. I shouldn't have to befriend them for them to act like human beings and pay their share.

 

 

 

No but, then I am expecting to pull my wallet out and pay the cashier for my groceries. Like said before these women don't expect to pay for the cab ride.

 

 

 

I can't remember the last time I had this type of problem with a guy friend or acquaintance. Yet it seems to happen almost every weekend with women. If this sort of thing repeatedly happened with guys yes I would be just as mad. However, like I said before this type of behavior seems to be exclusively the domain of women.

 

So every weekend you hang out with women you know well but don't like, don't want to get to know well enough to know if you might like them? In fact, you don't want to like them even if it might solve your complaint?

 

Do as you want but it sounds like a whole lot of working hard rather than smart just to end up pissed and seeking a sympathetic anonymous male ear to vent it to.

[Woggle]

I am so sorry that you are going blind and suffering from memory loss. There are so many threads on here where women tear apart another woman who is clearly in the wrong in her relationship. You have even commented on many of them saying how it is a fresh breath of air to see that. You have stated that numerous times. I am so glad that your wife does not see this side of you. She doesn't deserve this side of you.

 

Please post links to at least 2 or 3 threads where more than one woman jumped to the defense of another woman in the wrong. Can you do that for us?

 

Just look at any thread where a woman is cheating. They pretty much get coddled as if it is their right to lie to and betray a man and any man who disagrees is a caveman living in the 1950s.

[Pyro]

Just look at any thread where a woman is cheating. They pretty much get coddled as if it is their right to lie to and betray a man and any man who disagrees is a caveman living in the 1950s.

 

that is all you have?

 

You are hopeless. You are NEVER going to get better unless EVERY single lying and cheating woman is erased from existence.

[sally4sara]

Just look at any thread where a woman is cheating. They pretty much get coddled as if it is their right to lie to and betray a man and any man who disagrees is a caveman living in the 1950s.

 

Then it should be easy to find 2 - 3 right? If you're going to spend, lets see, I posted my friend's emails in 2007? Its now 2011 so FOUR YEARS! If you're going to spend at least 4 years bitching about something the least you could do for putting everyone through your broken record rant is come up with a few posts proving your words.

[thatone]

Please review the thread about the Revenge Affair. People are calling out this poster for cheating on his reformed wife and two make posters are saying that it is only "because he is a man."

 

You backed up that if the poster was a woman that she would be coddled.

 

Quite frankly so many women have come to Loveshack saying: "wah, my husband has a good job and stuff and he loves me and is good to me but I like this hot guy from down the road that I met last week and had sex with. What does my pathetic self do?"

 

Well quite frankly not many women line up to say: "oh you poor thing, how ever will you cope with your vagina being that sore from twice the sex. These stupid men put so many demands on us. Maybe just tell your husband you have a headache until you decide to divorce him and take half his stuff to go live with the new guy."

 

Ugh.

 

Often I see names like "slut" and "whore" and they don't go at a 1:1 ratio for names like "*******."

 

I really don't give a crap all that much, but I do get sick of the "women will justify this and that" every time someone who was born with a vagina has a slightly different opinion.

 

Or "women just want this, all women just want that. Women just look archly like you owe them meals and shoes."

 

Blech. Who would want to be considered part of a group of people considered: whores, sluts, users, mooches, leeches, cheaters, selfish, miserable nags?

 

I didn't go and slut myself out or leech off of a guy.

 

In fact I have been through much of the crap that some of the men on here have been through and some worse.

 

I get told infrequently that it must be because I exhibit xyz ridiculous female trait which DOES NOT apply to me.

 

I get told that my husband's choices are my fault because "no man would ever xyz if you were a decent enough female in xyz way."

 

I ignore most of it because it speaks to how immature some posters are. But to be frank, in my history on LS, only two female posters have ever attacked me personally and both have apologized afterward. I have lost count long ago of the men that have. And some in relatively sick ways.

 

I would hate to think that make posters have the converse experience.

 

In fact I would love to see some examples of obvious non-troll postings as such.

 

http://www.loveshack.org/forums/showpost.php?p=3582270&postcount=16

 

http://www.loveshack.org/forums/showpost.php?p=3582275&postcount=18

 

http://www.loveshack.org/forums/showpost.php?p=3582433&postcount=21

 

now lets consider the situation in the example thread. guy gets told by an acquaintance that his GF is kissing some random guy in a bar during the two months in which she is denying him sex.

 

this is as cut and dried as it gets. GF is cheating on him. the signs are obvious.

 

why is the thread two pages long? because two women are defending the GF. one insists that there's no proof, when the OP posted his proof, the other says the OP is friend zoned which makes no sense whatsoever he's in a months-long relationship that's not possible, but she needed to think of something to defend the GF and that's the first thing that popped in her head so that's what she posted.

 

there are plenty of examples of this that's just the one that comes to mind that's current.

 

now, i will give you the fact that the bitter men on here who post the same crap over and over for their whine-fix are louder than the women defending other women for their terrible actions. but that doesn't make it a one way street. men are louder than women irl too, it translates to this format.

[sally4sara]

I don't know these women, I am not friends with them, I have no desire to befriend them. I don't see the same ones over and over, I see different women because I hang out in different circles. I see the same women maybe once every 2-3 months.

 

This doesn't happen every weekend (I don't go out every weekend) however, it does happen frequently enough to where it really really bothers me that women take advantage of guys this way. It just doesn't happen to me, it happens to my other male friends as well.

 

I didn't post in this thread seeking a sympathetic anonymous male ear.

 

If you read my post, I was simply praising phineas for not buying drinks for women and not letting women take advantage of him.

 

Then when you commented on my post, I simply defended my position. I was not seeking any sympathy from anybody.

 

I'm sorry. I must have gotten confused when you said women on here think you're making things up when you post a thread about your personal experiences with women. That implied to me that you do make posts about hard things you're going through. I guess I assumed because I don't usually see people complain about things that don't happen to them.

[Cracker Jack]

You could already see the downfall of this topic in the op...

 

Personally, I think these gender wars are tired. I'll admit that women get bashed a ton on here, but topics like this don't help the matter--it simply prolongs the issue; an issue which is being displayed right now in this exact topic: gender wars. People need to just chill.

Edited August 22, 2011 by Cracker Jack

[sally4sara]

http://www.loveshack.org/forums/showpost.php?p=3582270&postcount=16

 

http://www.loveshack.org/forums/showpost.php?p=3582275&postcount=18

 

http://www.loveshack.org/forums/showpost.php?p=3582433&postcount=21

 

now lets consider the situation in the example thread. guy gets told by an acquaintance that his GF is kissing some random guy in a bar during the two months in which she is denying him sex.

 

this is as cut and dried as it gets. GF is cheating on him. the signs are obvious.

 

why is the thread two pages long? because two women are defending the GF. one insists that there's no proof, when the OP posted his proof, the other says the OP is friend zoned which makes no sense whatsoever he's in a months-long relationship that's not possible, but she needed to think of something to defend the GF and that's the first thing that popped in her head so that's what she posted.

 

there are plenty of examples of this that's just the one that comes to mind that's current.

 

now, i will give you the fact that the bitter men on here who post the same crap over and over for their whine-fix are louder than the women defending other women for their terrible actions. but that doesn't make it a one way street. men are louder than women irl too, it translates to this format.

 

Three posts in ONE thread. I agree I don't get what FitChick posted; its like she didn't realize what thread she was in but she didn't jump on the OP or disparage him.

The other two....she said the guy had thin evidence, suggested he make sure he knows whats really going on because if she did actually screw some other guy behind his back she is very wrong to do so, but if all she did was kiss some guy - she didn't think it warranted his plans of revenge before dumping her. i don't know how severe this revenge stuff is but I wouldn't bother getting revenge over a kiss either. I'd just dump them. She also did not jump on the OP or disparage him.

[thatone]

lol, this is like shooting fish in a barrel, i like how the women in the previous page think they've hemmed woggle into a box.

 

look at the thread this thread is referring to...this is about tigressa posting her bra modeling pics or whatever on facebook while friending her BF's family so they will be able to see them.

 

http://www.loveshack.org/forums/showpost.php?p=3581775&postcount=95

 

hello? is she nuts? there is nothing 'cultural' about posting nude/topless/underwear/whatever simliar pics on facebook. it's attention whoring, and duh, her boyfriend doesn't like her posting pictures of herself undressed in public, because he doesn't like his gf attention whoring everyone else on the internet.

 

there is no defense for what she's doing whatsoever. but there are plenty of women IN THAT THREAD who must persist in finding nothing wrong with what she is suggesting.

 

you know what, there's a simple solution to this...

 

all of the women who are defending her need to give me and woggle pics of themselves in nothing but their bras and panties. how about you take your own suggestions and 'meet us halfway'.

 

so you all can post them here in this thread. go ahead, in your own words, there's nothing wrong with it.

[thatone]

you know what's funny, by that crazy rationale tigressa is the most rational one of the bunch, she gave us the pic!

[sally4sara]

lol, this is like shooting fish in a barrel, i like how the women in the previous page think they've hemmed woggle into a box.

 

look at the thread this thread is referring to...this is about tigressa posting her bra modeling pics or whatever on facebook while friending her BF's family so they will be able to see them.

 

http://www.loveshack.org/forums/showpost.php?p=3581775&postcount=95

 

hello? is she nuts? there is nothing 'cultural' about posting nude/topless/underwear/whatever simliar pics on facebook. it's attention whoring, and duh, her boyfriend doesn't like her posting pictures of herself undressed in public, because he doesn't like his gf attention whoring everyone else on the internet.

 

She said like 4 times now and posted the pic - SHE IS NOT TOPLESS OR NUDE. She is wearing pants, body paint and a colored bra that looks like a bathing suit top. Learn to read. She is showing even less skin than if she were at the pool. I have pics I'm linked to by a friend who threw a pool party. I'm showing more skin in them than she is showing. I can't imagine anyone taking issue over pics of a pool party so I don't get why her BF is pissed about pics where she shows even less.

 

lthere is no defense for what she's doing whatsoever. but there are plenty of women IN THAT THREAD who must persist in finding nothing wrong with what she is suggesting.

 

You're right because its not something she should be ashamed of. I don't even need to acknowledge the rest because you are not presenting facts.

[thatone]

so we should expect our bra pics from the rest of you all by tomorrow then?

[sally4sara]

so we should expect our bra pics from the rest of you all by tomorrow then?

 

Why? I am not trying to be a model. My husband wouldn't blink an eye over it if I was trying to be a model or the one time when I sat for a photographer friend when his model no showed. So I don't need to come on here seeking advise about pic causing an issue in my relationship.

[dreamingoftigers]

If you take your advice again and read more posts you will see that men will most of the time generalize the entire female population. It doesn't happen as often on here the other way around.

 

http://www.loveshack.org/forums/showpost.php?p=3582270&postcount=16

 

http://www.loveshack.org/forums/showpost.php?p=3582275&postcount=18

 

http://www.loveshack.org/forums/showpost.php?p=3582433&postcount=21

 

now lets consider the situation in the example thread. guy gets told by an acquaintance that his GF is kissing some random guy in a bar during the two

months in which she is denying him sex.

 

this is as cut and dried as it gets. GF is cheating on him. the signs are obvious.

 

why is the thread two pages long? because two women are defending the GF. one insists that there's no proof, when the OP posted his proof, the other says the OP is friend zoned which makes no sense whatsoever he's in a months-long relationship that's not possible, but she needed to think of something to defend the GF and that's the first thing that popped in her head so that's what

she posted.

 

there are plenty of examples of this that's just the one that comes to mind that's current.

 

now, i will give you the fact that the bitter men on here who post the same crap over and over for their whine-fix are louder than the women defending other women for their terrible actions. but that doesn't make it a one way street. men are louder than women irl too, it translates to this format.

 

I actually read the whole thread and the 1st and third links were by the same poster who in link one was NOT defending the gf (read for context) and was actually saying that your suggestion in your previous post would not preserve the relationship if the OP wanted to because the way he would be addressing her would get her to walk out the door whether she was cheating or not.

 

She wasn't coddling the gf for cheating. She was saying that given THE OP's choice to potentially want to be with his gf, your method would not produce the results he wants.

 

The second one is just.....weird.... Like she didn't read the whole thread or something or understand the situation. Weird.

 

The third link I can see as potentially defending the gf.

[Woggle]

I don't feel like looking for these threads but I have seen this mentality on here. I don't condone the men who trash all women without making room for exceptions but don't act like it is so one sided.

 

I will give credit it where it is due and say that there was one thread where a woman was acting like she was entitled to have a man pay for everything and 95% of the women on there did not agree with her. There is a core group of good women on here who I have much respect for.

[Queen Zenobia]

She said like 4 times now and posted the pic - SHE IS NOT TOPLESS OR NUDE. She is wearing pants, body paint and a colored bra that looks like a bathing suit top. Learn to read. She is showing even less skin than if she were at the pool. I have pics I'm linked to by a friend who threw a pool party. I'm showing more skin in them than she is showing. I can't imagine anyone taking issue over pics of a pool party so I don't get why her BF is pissed about pics where she shows even less.

 

Well, clearly you don't have much experience with some of the more traditional or conservative cultures in this world. In my culture (Arab, not Indian) female clothing choices are scrutinized 100x more than men's are. My parents never cared if I wore a bikini but any pics that I have of me at the beach are blocked from view of extended family members or family friends. I saw the pic of TA and I can tell you that if some of my (fellow Arab) friends had a pic like that on facebook they would be read the riot act by their parents.

[dreamingoftigers]

lol, this is like shooting fish in a barrel, i like how the women in the previous page think they've hemmed woggle into a box.

 

look at the thread this thread is referring to...this is about tigressa posting her bra modeling pics or whatever on facebook while friending her BF's family so they will be able to see them.

 

http://www.loveshack.org/forums/showpost.php?p=3581775&postcount=95

 

hello? is she nuts? there is nothing 'cultural' about posting nude/topless/underwear/whatever simliar pics on facebook. it's attention whoring, and duh, her boyfriend doesn't like her posting pictures of herself undressed in public, because he doesn't like his gf attention whoring everyone else on the internet.

 

there is no defense for what she's doing whatsoever. but there are plenty of women IN THAT THREAD who must persist in finding nothing wrong with what she is suggesting.

 

you know what, there's a simple solution to this...

 

all of the women who are defending her need to give me and woggle pics of

themselves in nothing but their bras and panties. how about you take your own suggestions and 'meet us halfway'.

 

so you all can post them here in this thread. go ahead, in your own words, there's nothing wrong with it.

 

Honey, I am not defending her. But you better be glad that I didn't.

 

Don't think you want my bra and underwear pic.

 

Didn't anyone tell you that sexual mores are relative in the 21st Century?

[Woggle]

I find nothing wrong with modeling pics like that but when dealing with a conservative culture like that you are not going to change it. Right or wrong you either deal with it or you move on.