lol what women want-guys with no job, jail record, and babies, it works everytime

August 13, 2011

lol it's human nature, this type of guy especially ones on drugs are incredibly selfish (as all addicts are) they put pleasure-seeking above and beyond relationships and this gives the (false) impression they are self-contained. All of us are attracted to individuals that appear self-contained ie non-needy. We all want what we can't have. Women sometimes like experiencing danger by proxy...that why a lot of women like soldiers, firemen etc as well as criminals. Equally men very often go for shallow women, who have no female friends (because women can see through them) but maybe they are very pretty, have the perfect figure and all they care about is cash

August 13, 2011

Okay, so apparently he's a drug dealer (I've never heard of this guy) and that's uncool. Though depending on what he's dealing, not really less uncool than plenty of legal jobs. (I'm anti-drug myself, but I know a pot dealer who's a really nice guy, and I cannot really see his 'vocation' as an issue, since the reasons pot is illegal are kind of B.S. and it's better for you than half the stuff doctors try to push on people. /randomly libertarian drug rant). If he deals to kids, that's REALLY uncool. /end teacher rant.

However, in THIS description (bolded), it's all about mindset. Anyone can do that, and perhaps more people should. You can live day by day and work a respectable job. I would say that 90% of the time, I live day by day. I visit the future in my mind on occasion to set up a quick 401K or sketch out some goals, but I never let my goals take me away from the present. All those miserable people you know---they probably aren't mindful and can't be present, and if they WERE, they could easily find happiness in productive lives. Nobody NEEDS to get caught up in the Rat Race. We choose to or not.

So, what you're talking about here is perhaps someone who has good features (he can live in the moment) and bad features (he's a creepy drug dealer) and he maximizes what he can get from the good ones. Just imagine how much BETTER living in the moment could be for someone who's NOT a creepy drug dealer.

The thing is that most honest and hardworking men do not have this freedom. They are stuck in a miserable job where they are hanging on by a thread and their wives have nothing but contempt for them and cheat with guys like Jack the Wino. Is it any wonder why many of the young boys in the neighborhood idolize guys like him when they look at the lives their father's live? He might not be right but until society rewards decency and hard work people will aspire to do what gives them the good life.

August 13, 2011

The thing is that most honest and hardworking men do not have this freedom. They are stuck in a miserable job where they are hanging on by a thread and their wives have nothing but contempt for them and cheat with guys like Jack the Wino. Is it any wonder why many of the young boys in the neighborhood idolize guys like him when they look at the lives their father's live? He might not be right but until society rewards decency and hard work people will aspire to do what gives them the good life.

First of all, "most" wives do not cheat. Some do. But "most" is absurd. And not even all the gals that cheat will cheat with "Wino" types (many won't---in fact they're more likely to cheat with colleagues or people of the same social standing, honestly, statistics bear out; in fact, men are more likely to "cheat down" than women are when they cheat).

Second of all, and more importantly, what I'm saying is: NO ONE is stuck in misery, except of their own creation.

Third of all, society rewards both decency and indecency at times. It doesn't punish decency, and it doesn't always punish indecency. If you get caught up on fairness and keeping score (my mother does this), you'll often find yourself miserable, but that's true anytime you get caught up in calculation.

And most of all -- as my main point in that post you quoted -- PEOPLE CAN CHOOSE TO BE HAPPY AND LIVE IN THE PRESENT. Anyone! Seriously. I know the miserable types you're talking about, and they're indulging in the drug of stress and misery the same way junkies indulge in their drugs. Both are uncool. (I'm not saying anyone can be happy ALL the time, but I'm talking overall.)

August 13, 2011

Jack the Wino probably passes out free beer for everyone.

Passes out free beer... at first glance I thought it said pisses out free beer! LOL! (Yeah, as usual, I'm the only one laughing.) You should visit pi55.com.

August 13, 2011

First of all, "most" wives do not cheat. Some do. But "most" is absurd. And not even all the gals that cheat will cheat with "Wino" types (many won't---in fact they're more likely to cheat with colleagues or people of the same social standing, honestly, statistics bear out; in fact, men are more likely to "cheat down" than women are when they cheat).

Second of all, and more importantly, what I'm saying is: NO ONE is stuck in misery, except of their own creation.

Third of all, society rewards both decency and indecency at times. It doesn't punish decency, and it doesn't always punish indecency. If you get caught up on fairness and keeping score (my mother does this), you'll often find yourself miserable, but that's true anytime you get caught up in calculation.

And most of all -- as my main point in that post you quoted -- PEOPLE CAN CHOOSE TO BE HAPPY AND LIVE IN THE PRESENT. Anyone! Seriously. I know the miserable types you're talking about, and they're indulging in the drug of stress and misery the same way junkies indulge in their drugs. Both are uncool. (I'm not saying anyone can be happy ALL the time, but I'm talking overall.)

I get what you are saying but honest, hardworking and faithful are q=uickly becoming the doormats of society and no man aspires to be a doormat unless they are a masochist.

People like Jack the Wino are free because they are already off the books and aren't even trying to win at a game that him and others see as rigged. He can't be fired because he is his own boss and he can't be cheated on because he has no commitment or emotional ties to any women. He might get arrested though that has yet to happen but according to him it is better to have a short of amount of complete freedom rather than a lifetime of having the system's boot on your neck.

I am not promoting this lifestyle but society has created this monster.

August 13, 2011

I get what you are saying but honest, hardworking and faithful are q=uickly becoming the doormats of society and no man aspires to be a doormat unless they are a masochist.

People like Jack the Wino are free because they are already off the books and aren't even trying to win at a game that him and others see as rigged. He can't be fired because he is his own boss and he can't be cheated on because he has no commitment or emotional ties to any women. He might get arrested though that has yet to happen but according to him it is better to have a short of amount of complete freedom rather than a lifetime of having the system's boot on your neck.

I am not promoting this lifestyle but society has created this monster.

You're creating your own cage. Seriously.

This is a false dichotomy. You can be good, lovely, hard-working, and not a doormat. And I'm sure you know many people who are and who contribute to society, love their families, and have generally happy lives.

You get more of whatever you focus on.

August 13, 2011

You're creating your own cage. Seriously.

This is a false dichotomy. You can be good, lovely, hard-working, and not a doormat. And I'm sure you know many people who are and who contribute to society, love their families, and have generally happy lives.

You get more of whatever you focus on.

You can but I am lucky and I very much know it. With the way our society is going we are quickly becoming a dog eat dog society where all that matters is getting yours at all costs. I know people who had great careers and families just 6 years ago now being one step away poverty and being dragged to divorce court.

August 13, 2011

Never heard of this. I know some will settle for what they can get. Never could figure out why a women or man would seek prison personals. Different strokes for different folks, but it seems odd to search out undesirable characteristics.

August 14, 2011

This is just the female version of my supervisor.

A guy at the vice president level of a major corporation who's girlfriend has 7 arrests for street solicitation prostitution over the last 20 years (she's a lower level secretary at our corp), and had about 4 arrests for ID theft/check fraud/creditcard fraud. And is currently on probation for $20-100K financial abuse of handicapped/elderly. She's mid 40's, he's early 50's.

Abt 6 months into their relationship (after he took her on a great Haawaiian vacation), 'someone' tried to open credit cards in his name. The second person on the application was her. Since 'someone' tried to open 9 cards in two hours the credit bureaus contacted him and rejected all the applications as being suspicious. He didn't believe it was her because one of the rejection letters came to her address and she showed it to him 'wondering' what it was all about. I think she also got a rejection call from one of the companies on her answering machine (how'd did her number get on his cc application?) and she told him about it 'all confused'.

I guess she figured out she wasn't getting any money and was worried about her info being on the credit apps, so she somehow convinced him that someone stole her identity to steal his credit (with the proceeds going to her house). He bought it. He accused an old girlfriend, and they both made police reports. The police traced IPs and they led back to her. My supervisor laughed at police incompetence and thought it was a cover up (his ex girlfriend had family who used to work for the police or something). In any case he blew it off.

He was sure his girlfriend who was so quiet and sweet and caring and easy going and soft and feminine would never do that to him. She'd been good to him in his 2007 divorce, he'd known her for 5+ years. She confided everything to him including her prior arrests (which I know is a lie). This is what he told me.

I also know that on two occasions the police questioned her in our conference room and I overheard her crying. She confessed but since there was no monetary loss and she was on probation and he didn't want to press charges (he wasn't there when she confessed and I don't know if they told him or not), they did nothing to her. She never told him they spoke to her--for all he assures me she tells him everything (i'm the only one in the corp who knows about this for various reasons). They told him they spoke to her (but didn't mention the confession) when they did the case wrap up, I saw his face when they told him and it was shocked--just for a moment, then he put on a game face. He was quiet the rest of the day--and then it was back to normal.

About this time a tracking device was found on his car. He took it to the police again thinking it was his exgirlfriend (a woman btw, he only dated like for 2 weeks about seven months before he started up with his current GF and who doesn't have any interaction with him at all). The fingerprints were not of his exGF or of his current GF. They weren't of anyone in the database, meaning they belong to someone who's never been fingerprinted before for any reason.

The next happened about 4 months later. At 3 am he got a text string between his girlfriend and another guy. It was clearly sent to him by mistake, since boss's name is like BACXX, and the other guy's name is BICXXX. with similar first names. It was an awful text about partying (supervisor thinks she's straight drug/alcohol wise), about how boring he and she's clearly cheating on supervisor though but wants to cool it with the other guy so she doesn't mess up with supervisor who has money. He notes that it's a mms text not a sms text (I don't know the difference), and thinks this proves someone is effing with him and setting her up and it's all not true. She's innocent. I don't think he ever tells he he got the text string.

A few weeks later a life insurance company calls to schedule a medical exam. He hasn't bought any life insurance. Guess who's the beneficiary and paid the premium?

Then a few weeks after that there's another attempt at getting credit in his name, this time a home equity loan on his paid off house. Guess who's the coapplicant?

He still thinks she's innocent and she's being set up and he's being targeted by some malicious person. This is not a dumb man. But....why? Why is he doing this? The thing is every time she gets caught, he's more convinced she's innocent.

Men are no better at picking women than women are at picking men.

Edited August 14, 2011 by forms

August 14, 2011

For every thread like this, there's one that tells us that ALL women will do ANYTHING for ANY guy who has a lot of money to spend on them.

Which is it today?

August 14, 2011

We will ALL do anything for a guy that is nothing like the OP in whichever thread was started.

I.e. We will all do anything for a handsome man only, average men you are out of luck

Written by average guy.

I.e. We will all do anything for a rich guy, it doesn't matter what his personality is or what he looks like as long as he is rich.

Written by broke guy

I.e. We will all do anything for "bad boy."

Written by "good guy"

We will all do anything for "specific ethnicity guy"

Written by "other ethnicity" guy.

Maybe if the damn average whatever guy was out there putting in an average effort instead of sitting at home online writing posts about how all the other guys outside his window get the girl, maybe just maybe there would be some half-decent guys out there to scrap over.

August 14, 2011

For every thread like this, there's one that tells us that ALL women will do ANYTHING for ANY guy who has a lot of money to spend on them.

Which is it today?

I think all these threads are saying the same thing.

"What women want is a guy who is not me."

August 23, 2011

Never heard of this. I know some will settle for what they can get. Never could figure out why a women or man would seek prison personals. Different strokes for different folks, but it seems odd to search out undesirable characteristics.

Very interesting.

August 23, 2011

This really shouldn't even be a discussion really. We all know the type. Women will even leave their husbands who have a career to be with thses guys. Oh yeah I had to throw in the babies because going to jail for child support is a sure way to get hot women. I mean for real. It doesn't matter what race either. The risk reward for getting a woman really dictates that a dude behave like this. It deosn't matter what age they are either because there are 60 yr olds macking out like this. Women, you broads have way more issues than you even try to share on LS. No excuse for this. What do you have to say for yourselves.

I prefer my men child free and with a clean record. Unemployment, in this economy, I can let slide. Temporarily.

August 23, 2011

I certainly am having fun with this thread. I don't think I would call it informative, but it's helping time pass on this slow day at work. Prolly is still not a word though.

I love you for this, even though I don't know you.

August 23, 2011

I have a friend whose teenage daughter was fathered by this type of guy. She too never works, gets her money from the governement. And when she needs more, some times he would drop her off a stack of bills, other times a bag to sell.

He wasn't all that good looking, but had the gift of gab, When you visited his nice place, with lots of bedrooms, it was like visiting Hefner's mansion. here were always 2 or more good looking hot young women, in their 20's living with him, some of them with young kids, his. And he was in his 50's

His deal, he was the supplier of other young women who had each staked out a nice upscale apartment complex. Thru his product they were able to maintain a rich life style with out having to do the 9 - 5 gig.

When they got caught they kept their mouth shut and did the time, ususally 3 months, one up to a year.

Recently his world crashed, one talked, and while out on bail got nailed a second time, barely made bail again, and facing 30 to life skipped the country

August 23, 2011

and the daughter will probably grow up to be the same way.

August 23, 2011

What do you have to say for yourselves.

I think it's the sex. Women will do anything if they find a good one. It's soooo hard to come by.

August 23, 2011

This really shouldn't even be a discussion really. We all know the type. Women will even leave their husbands who have a career to be with thses guys. Oh yeah I had to throw in the babies because going to jail for child support is a sure way to get hot women. I mean for real. It doesn't matter what race either. The risk reward for getting a woman really dictates that a dude behave like this. It deosn't matter what age they are either because there are 60 yr olds macking out like this. Women, you broads have way more issues than you even try to share on LS. No excuse for this. What do you have to say for yourselves.

Yes, women in general have issues. You know why? Women are a little something called "human" first. Humans ingeneral are imperfect from the start. Men have issues too dearheart. You're post being a small indicator of this. Yes, some women do go for the "bad boy", the excitement you draws from her will override the logistics of the situation. But guess what? Men have a similiar system at work. They go for the girls with the big boobs, the nice bodies, the sparkly dazzeling personalities without considering much more substance. She might not have a criminal record of holding up banks and kicking puppies but she probably has a record of being self-involved, catty, back stabber, attention seeker. While the sweet nice girls in the backround that aren't as shiney get passed on by.

Both men and women have issues. Articulating that one gender's issues are worse then the other doesn't help support your own argument to begin with.

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August 23, 2011

I think it's the sex. Women will do anything if they find a good one. It's soooo hard to come by.

are women that deprived for real?

August 24, 2011

are women that deprived for real?

Yes. For women good sex is hard to find.

August 24, 2011

The odds are close to astronomical to find a guy who won't try "porn moves" on you. Sometimes we have to try a few dozen guys

August 24, 2011

Oh, no. Not another "I'm a loser who can't get a girl to date me, so I'm going to make a woman bashing thread to blame THEM" thread.

August 24, 2011

The odds are close to astronomical to find a guy who won't try "porn moves" on you. Sometimes we have to try a few dozen guys

What are "Porn moves" ?

August 24, 2011

Donna, what else would you expect on this day that ends in "y?"

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